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shih
post Aug 24 2007, 11:04 AM

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Yeah, I can go to PM branch to switch my balanced fund to something else too.
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post Aug 24 2007, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Aug 24 2007, 01:36 PM)
What you plan to switch to?
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Switched to PEF to average down, PIEF and PCSF to open an account with minimum charge. RM25 each. Good bargain for me.
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post Aug 25 2007, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(athlon 11 @ Aug 24 2007, 11:55 PM)
shih, darkmage12,

this is very personal subjective,if i myself have that big amount of money,i will go for cheaper option,that is either share market if i have time to do active manage or go for personal financial advisor if i have no time for active manage my money.
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Indeed. You can do what you want to do with your money. If you opt for UTs, you have to pay for the profesional fund management. If you want to get a financial planner, you need to pay more for each consultation. Financial plan need to be follow up closely.

Normally people that go for UTs or other actively managed investment products is those who are busy with their own life and not be able to do frequent monitoring. If you have time, you can trade stocks like a full time player.

athon11, if you follow my post you should see I already clarify that everyone have their own taste and choice and they have their right what to do with their money.
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post Aug 25 2007, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(shih @ Aug 24 2007, 12:15 AM)
That is different from one to another. Example: Why you only buy 10 lots of Genting shares while others buy 1000 lots? The problem is people think that it is profitable and they understand the risk. The later pay more for the brokerage too.

Same case for UTs.
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Yes, got it! It is up to what you like.

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post Aug 25 2007, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(ataris @ Aug 25 2007, 12:08 AM)
off-shore are dangerous. a lot of scam(s).
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There are a lot of scams in Malaysia also.

Believe yourself or believe others, make your decision.


Added on August 25, 2007, 12:14 am
QUOTE(dzi921 @ Aug 25 2007, 12:11 AM)
Or because they are like me, ignorant in Stock  shakehead.gif
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Ya, some people does not like to invest stocks themselves. Some does not have sufficient infomation, some does not have enough capital, some does not have confidence. Thousands of reason.

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post Aug 25 2007, 10:09 AM

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That is a good proposal for the investors, but I doubt when can it be carried out.
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post Aug 25 2007, 12:38 PM

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I would agree if UT/insurance agents go for profesional certificates like CFP but RFP is too easy to obtain. So I wonder the agents quantity will cut down but not excessively. For me, I vote for CFP. I would like to take the course when I have settle down in my working environment.
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post Aug 25 2007, 11:39 PM

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Yes, SI without the bank approval will take more than 1 month to process. So, in order to make sure your SI can be done effectively, bring your passbook, go back to your bank branch and ask for the approval before you hand it over to Public Mutual branch.
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post Aug 26 2007, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 26 2007, 08:09 AM)
How about if I submitted the SI together with the new application fund?
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It is better for you to get the bank apporoval first, else it would be time consuming also.
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post Aug 26 2007, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(airbag_grado @ Aug 26 2007, 04:35 PM)
How do we know which Real Estate Fund is better with handful of them not more a year since inception.

AmAsiaPac Prop Equities
MAAKL Asia Pacific REIT
Public Far-East Prop & Resorts Fund
and now OSK-UOB Asian Real Estate Fund. :/
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You can only tell after the funds' results is out. Unless the fund manager disclose some insider news for the investors during the launching period but it is not necessary accurate also.
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post Aug 27 2007, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Aug 27 2007, 11:00 AM)
For me, they should give the choice of having an agent or no agent charges if I were to buy online
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I dont think that will happen, the market will be full with agents after this year due to the bull keep running. But I predict FMUTM will do something to regulate this things, because too many agents without high eduacation qualification is not good for the clients.

I hope later on they will start to implement some certain qualification for UT agents to skim off the cream and leave the better one to serve the clients.

But if online portal is available, I think the charges could be lowered to 3-4%.
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post Aug 29 2007, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Aug 29 2007, 06:36 PM)
That is true, I'll look into it later today
Off my head, I'm thinking PCSF. I heard this fund is hot cake
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Top up rm200 in PCSF this morning when I see DJIA -280. Dont need to throw so much money at one shot. Not urgent in making money. Too much hot money in China too, far more than US, the credit issue will be worse if China credit bubble burst. But I take this as long long term investment, so play slowly and steadily.
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post Aug 29 2007, 07:11 PM

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I will top up slowly.... my next top up should quite far from now. Need to see how is the market going. IF going down a lot, will start to do SI already.
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post Sep 3 2007, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Sep 2 2007, 10:24 PM)
That is what I thought so too, but every time after they distribute, the price would be adjusted lower. So if you were to buy last minute and sell it off right after distribution, the amount will not be a lot. Not to mention -6.5% service charge
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The actual value BEFORE and AFTER distribution is the same. It does not make additional profit by getting the distribution, because the value of the NAV will be decreased also.
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post Sep 3 2007, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(edison_84 @ Sep 3 2007, 08:43 PM)
What is NAV? How they calculate NAV? blush.gif
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NAV = Total Asset Value/Total Units
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post Sep 6 2007, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Sep 6 2007, 06:30 PM)
Investor needs to know what is the strategy employed by the fund manager in the particular fund. Some of it are explained by Cherroy earlier. By understanding it,  then you can judge whether the fund will able to perform the return as you wanted during the investment period.
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That is impossible for the fund manager to update you everytime. So, you need to predict the market yourself in order to maximizing your potential return, if you are going for short term. If for long term, many strategies could be implemented.
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post Sep 8 2007, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(leekk8 @ Sep 7 2007, 10:20 AM)
I think cuebiz meant, the investment policy and strategies stated in the prospectus...where fund manager need to follow the policy.
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I think the word 'employed' means the decision that fund manager make, like increasing equity ratio, portfolio rebalancing and so on. Normally policy will NOT change, but strategy does.
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post Sep 11 2007, 10:32 PM

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I would like to put some money in PAIF when the timing is right too.
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post Sep 12 2007, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Sep 11 2007, 10:33 PM)
So when will you consider that the timing is right?  hmm.gif

Let me know too ... biggrin.gif
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Not so soon, let me clear my stocks 1st. Unit trusts are going no where when the market is not performing. People that bought UTs in the recent launching are not making much money, some even lose. So, when market goes down, play for long term and average down.
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post Sep 12 2007, 12:17 AM

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But my opinion does not serve as guidelines. I just do it the way that I like it.


Added on September 12, 2007, 12:18 amI dont know when is the lowest point but I will run my SI if the market really goes down seriously after GE.

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