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Jordy
post Dec 4 2007, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(leekk8 @ Dec 3 2007, 11:19 AM)
For those who understand unit trust well, can read the prospectus of any fund to understand the investment policy and investment strategies of that particular fund. You can go to any bank to buy unit trust, some banks selling many companies' unit trust, for example, as I know, UOB sell OSKUOB, Prudential, Pacific, etc...RHB sell CMS, RHB, OSKUOB, etc...you can always ask the bank or refer to their website.

If you really have no idea on unit trust, and you need agents to serve you, Public Mutual is the best choice as I know.
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Yes, well said. But some banks do have agents as well, just that they are smaller in number.
PM has a very large force, that is why service is of great importance. This will in turn benefit the investors.
I have seen people recruit for CMS, just doesn't know where their agency is and place to buy the funds smile.gif
This is the problem why a lot of people still don't understand about unit trust.
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post Dec 30 2007, 01:21 AM

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I have been in this situation before with one of my funds.
I saw better potential in another fund, so I switched it out.
Clearly I could see the huge difference that made.
So, even if your fund is underperforming, there are still other better funds to look at. Switch to those better funds when you found one that is better than your current fund.
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post Jan 6 2008, 07:48 AM

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Trustee is the caretaker for the money invested, but they do not involve directly in the management of the funds. They do have to approve all transactions involving the money that they are holding. It should be the fund managers' experience that count in unit trust smile.gif
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post Jan 13 2008, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 12 2008, 06:03 PM)
Recently, although China related stocks index is high, there are plenty of stocks that are way off their previos peak. Its bullishness currently become a bit more sectorial, not overall.
It somehow like KLSE and KLCI case, KLCI might be hitting 1500, but there are plenty of stocks in KLSE that still way below the price when 1200 level.
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That is right. At the moment people are acting more defensively, and move with news.
Since the O&G and plantation sectors are expected to do with better results, people tend to trade selectively.
Coincidently, a few of our heavyweights are in plantation sector, so that made our market rallied, leaving majority of the stocks behind.
So what we're experiencing now is not a rally across the board like previous years, so small traders are at a loss because they have no chance to participate in this rally.

QUOTE(rollinpark @ Jan 12 2008, 11:13 PM)
Seems like China based funds are still hot. Osk-Uob also launch another China fund. And also PB Far East Consumer fund.  hmm.gif Read an article by S.Dali in TheStar BizWeek regarding mutual funds. What it said makes a lot of sense.
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Dali is right at some of his points, but a thorough read on his article, he is stating it very generally across the industry, and at times includes the situation in US. So, his view has its points, but I doubt the accuracy of it. There are still companies that can generate returns that outperform their respective benchmarks repeatedly. So, you decide smile.gif
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post Jan 13 2008, 10:18 AM

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India has its own huge population next to China, so as what Cherroy said, their wealth is great enough to sustain their own market.
If I am not mistaken, their per capita is quite high in Mumbai. With lots of developments now taking place around Mumbai and Dubai, the country is creating more jobs.
So, they still have the capacity to boost the market further when they're fully developed in my opinion.
By the way, which fund did you invest for India's exposure?
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post Jan 13 2008, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(weichong @ Jan 13 2008, 11:51 AM)
if i'm not mistaken,
dubai ->Arab, not india
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Ah, sorry for my mistake. It is one of the UAE, and not India.
Thank you for the information smile.gif
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post Jan 13 2008, 11:25 PM

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As a reminder, during the subprime crisis, China also was somewhat decoupled from the problems in US, as what India is experiencing now.
A lot of people jumped into China's bandwagon during that time, because they have the same opinion as you have now.
So, will history repeat itself on India is still a question smile.gif
Just a friendly advice that you have made your thorough analysis on this. We ought to learn from mistakes done by others, as well as our own mistake smile.gif

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post Jan 15 2008, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(lifeless_creature @ Jan 15 2008, 03:27 PM)
sorry, i've a question here to the agents out there -> My question is, I've submitted DDI previously on Fund A that deducts every 8th of the month, now I'm thinking to submit another DDI that deducts on 18th, on the same Fund A as well (same acc), is that possible ? Thanks.
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I don't think it is possible to have 2 DDI for one account.
You can check with your servicing agent though, just a phone call will do smile.gif
They are getting commision from your investment, so don't make their life so easy brows.gif
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post Jan 16 2008, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(cyclone9 @ Jan 16 2008, 11:19 AM)
let say I wan to invest RM1000
so which price shld i get?yest?
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Today's price, determined tomorrow.
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post Jan 17 2008, 04:26 PM

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That is true of what cherroy said. We may compare companies through their track record of consistency, but not funds. The performance of funds are affected by its underlying performance which would change rapidly from time to time. So we cannot just take past performance as the only measure of profitablilty.
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QUOTE(woopypooky @ Jan 17 2008, 04:41 PM)
so on rough scale, how much % return anually can we expect from a high perfroming companies?
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In this case, the range of return annually that could expect would be from -30% to 70%.
As stated before, when market is good, UT can be good as well as vice versa.
Hope that it answers your question smile.gif
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post Jan 19 2008, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(cHipoLatas @ Jan 19 2008, 12:37 PM)
i got a very good agent...
have an experience of stock and share market...
been working with bank for so long oso...
alwayz give good advice in term of risk and investment aspect...
not just past performance..
lots of things to be consider actually...
then u will make good money like me..=)
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Then I should congratulate you smile.gif
I hope you can learn more from him/her for your own investment.

QUOTE(howszat @ Jan 19 2008, 02:53 PM)
Does anyone look at the Lipper Fund Performance reports? How much attention do you pay to it?
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I do look at Lipper's, Morningstar and S&P tables for the comparisons of funds.
Basically, I look at it to see the performance of the funds thus far.
The tables don't really tell you anything, but you can have a rough idea of why are some funds moving a lot, but some funds are lagging behind.
That will make you think and do your due diligence before investing.
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post Jan 25 2008, 12:40 PM

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Dreamer, I just have a question to ask you.
Do we need to even have a savings account there to start our investment, or can we just link it with our local banks here?
Thank you in advance for your time smile.gif

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post Jan 27 2008, 01:31 PM

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Sorry mate, but no free advertising.
I think it is stated in the rules wink.gif
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post Jan 29 2008, 02:14 AM

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Yes, a good time indeed.
I am sure all my clients would be happy to put in more money.
I am looking for bigger commission this month as well brows.gif
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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 31 2008, 10:53 AM)
By the way, why there's no official announment regarding this in the PM website?

I don't even know this if kingkong81 doesn't post it in here.
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It gives agents the edge. Agents who do their work will get the business smile.gif
It will come later on the website.
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post Jan 31 2008, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 31 2008, 11:23 AM)
Seems like my agent slipped this kind of information again.  sweat.gif
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Agents are supposed to "slip" information like these tongue.gif
That is why we are an important asset to the investors.
If everything can be seen from the website, then there is no job for us already biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(livingmonolith @ Jan 31 2008, 07:07 PM)
But will this be a good time to buy? From the looks of it these few funds' trend was going down, and still heading there.

I'm just wondering if it'll hit anymore lower next month.

Btw, I'm quite new in this...
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Sometimes, we really need to think of this logically.
Since these funds are "actively managed" by experienced fund managers, will the price hit RM0.0000 and never to get back up again? Even during the crisis in 1987, 1997 and 2001, we can still see that market will come back no matter how hard it has been hit. It just takes time, this is the reason we are trying to advise our investors to invest for the long term.
History tells my friend, so do not worry. Our fund managers will not let the investors lose money, unless the investors opt to do so smile.gif
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QUOTE(chinkw1 @ Jan 31 2008, 09:58 PM)
Question about buying Public Mutual Fund:

1. If i withdraw from my EPF to buy, is it a MUST to buy through agent? or I can buy by myself?
2. If i use cash to buy, is it a MUST to buy through agent? or I can buy by myself?

If we can buy by ourself at PublicBank, or by using Pbebank.com, then why do we need agent?
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Bro, with/without agent, the service charge still applies.
So, why not let us agents do the job for you? smile.gif
In fact, agents do not only invest for you, but give out valuable advice to you for better decisions.
With agents, you do not have to monitor the funds yourself, since you have agents to update you.
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QUOTE(chinkw1 @ Jan 31 2008, 10:30 PM)
TQ for clarification Jordy brother.

that means whether we buy thru agent or by ourself, the service charges are exactly the same right?
if the service charges are exactly the same, then better use agent.

let the agent earn 5% or so for the hard work they do for us.
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No worries mate.
Yes, it is wiser to use agents.
This will be a win-win situation for both parties smile.gif
If I am not mistaken, you have invested quite heftily in stocks as well right?
How come suddenly getting interested in unit trust? smile.gif
Mind to share your asset allocation?

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