alxa3021,

<< because interviewers rather have an graduate from say University of Berkeley compared to Snow College or even Iowa State University. Well what I'm saying is for those of you who plan to work in America, after graduating from an American college.>>

This is a a bunch of BS. I interviewed and hired people in USA. So, what is YOUR BACKGROUND in making those statement.

<< I'm just suggesting that it may be better if he keeps searching, he shouldnt lock yourself in at such an early stage. There are better schools which are also provide more value for money.>>

I agree with this statement. But, I DISAGREE with the ROLE of the undergraduate degree as SIGNIFICANT.

A) If a person is VERY SMART, a person will get very high CGPA regardless of where they go.

B) If a person is NOT very smart, a person will get LOUSY CGPA even if they go to a good school.

I had worked for 20+ years. For engineering, the ability to self study is the ULTIMATE determinant of success. That is INDEPENDENT of what school that you go to.

Dreamer

Hey i hv something to ask. what if I do an ADP but its 4+0. Is it alright? the degree is still going to be recognized as a degree?

Dreamer,

I'm not here to start a fight, I respect your experience and your opinion. Again, this is just my input and what I have experienced. If I have offended you in anyway perhaps I should make amends by saying I'm sorry.

You have for my experience than me, working as an engineer for 20 years, and again, what I stated is based on what I myself have gone through. You are right, you have all the right to question my background.

My point was not to actually say that if you go to unknown college, that you won't get hired, my point was to say that the writer should actually research harder, rather then set ISU in stone. Also, you want to keep in mind, that we're entering America as foreigners, and foreigners tend to have a disadvantage in the hiring process compared to the locals (depending on the job position), and I think your chances would be better with a better university. What do you think? Also, I'm talking about fresh graduates trying to get jobs, not someone who has 1-5 years experience. Your education pretty much disappears from your resume once you start working and accumulating work experience.

As for your second point, I can understand where you're coming from, it is true that a bachelor's role is not very significant, and I also agree that you self-education/self-improvement through life is the determinant of success.

After got accepted by the university in US, they ask for Immunization.

What is the Immunization about?

what do U understand by the English word Immunization?

alxa3021,

<<Also, I'm talking about fresh graduates trying to get jobs, not someone who has 1-5 years experience. Your education pretty much disappears from your resume once you start working and accumulating work experience. >>

So, why be a FRESH GRAD without EXPERIENCE??

I did not graduate from a famous university. But, I worked part-time in the university computing center for 5 years before I graduated. Hence, I was NEVER a FRESH GRADUATE without EXPERIENCE. Now, if you are an interviewer, would you hire

A) A fresh graduate from FAMOUS UNIVERSITY without EXPERIENCE

B) A fresh graduate from not FAMOUS UNIVERSITY with 5 years of experience.

I would always go for (B). In fact, (B) can apply for jobs that are NEVER open for (A) to begin with. (B) get a jump start in career to begin with. He started with a job that pay for his experience.

1) It is CHEAPER because the university costs less.

2) He get PAID by his job while going through college.

3) He get a jump start in his career a few years ahead of OTHERS.

Your way is a NORMAL WAY. And, it is AN EXPENSIVE WAY. And, it is NOT as powerful as (B).

Average people are not rich. Rich people are not average. You have a choice to be AVERAGE or RICH. To be RICH, you have to THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX. Aka, do not be NORMAL and FOLLOW what normal people will do.

I am showing a different way. And, a way for people that a BETTER WORKER than PURE SCHOLARLY type.

Dreamer

P.S.: One of the GOAL to attend UNIVERSITY is to have a CAREER. Now, there are MANY WAYS to REACH that GOAL. Having a degree is a NECESSARY but INSUFFICIENT to compete with OTHERS. So, WHAT can you do to differentiate YOURSELF from OTHERS??

This post has been edited by dreamer101: Jun 30 2010, 11:59 AM

guys im currently under a scholarship doing IB, i will be taking the SATs during the third semester. I heard that typically scholars would start as a freshmen, isn't coming as a freshmen meant from the SATs instead of the IB diploma?

@defectivelasagna
Enrolling as a freshman means that you'll be starting as a first year like most of the other students. But... In your case, you might be able to transfer some credits from your IB courses, i.e. take a few less courses compared to others who didn't do IB

i see, how many credits would you need to be able to completely skip freshmen year? I saw some universities take up to 8 credits per subject

Typically, it's 30 credits per year. But it defers from major to major. How many credits can be transferred defers from uni to uni also, not to mention ur grades too! ^^

hey planning to apply for MBA at the city university of seattle..
any comment/suggestion??

so what would happen if you get like 28 credits? do you still have to spend a year as a freshmen?

Still a freshman officially but you can start doing sophomore courses in your first year. Which means it is possible to graduate in 3 or 2.5 years.

There is no such thing as a freshman year. The term freshman, sophomore, junior and senior is only used to measure your progress towards your graduation.

The university couldn't be bothered what you do actually. In fact they couldn't be bothered what the lecturer does mostt of the time. The lecturer prepared his class and sets a time for it and you sign up what you wanna take. There are only semesters. And it's up to you to make your timetable for the semester.

In US, one academic year means the fall and winter semester. Students are expected to do an average of 15 credits a semester and thus 1 academic year equals 30 credits.

Year here does not refer to the time taken to get those credits. It hardly matter if you took 3 years to accumulate 20 credits.

You basically get admitted and then you're free to do whatever you like as long as you abide by your visa rules. The university doesn't structure anything for you.

There aren't really such things as sophomore level classes. There are just classes people normally take in a certain "year". Some people like to concentrate on their major first and may end up doing classes people normally do in their junior "year" during their freshman year and then complete the non-major subjects later. Some go to college for intellectual discussion and decide to do classes with graduate students. As long as the professor for the class OKs it, you're fine.

In the university I was in and I'm going to again, the only difference between freshman sophomore etc is the higher the level, the earlier I get to choose my classes. There are also things like sophomore club, jobs for sophomore only, housing for freshman only and such things. Those are actually just a rather rough groupings and again, nothing's really rigid over there.

can someone tell me what are the things that i should bring for the F-1 VISA interview?

- college transcripts
- bank statements
- university admission letter
- I-20
- SEVIS fee receipt

please tell me if i left something out

Let say I am able to transfer credit in my first year, then I will not have to study those courses while gaining those credits. Then, how can I graduate earlier, eg. 2/3 years, for a 4 year engineering course? People always say take more credit hours in a year. That means if I can transfer credit, I should take the typical 2nd year courses in my 1st year to fill up the free time? Kind of confuse with the credit transfer and graduate early things. Thanks for helping.

not all universities in the US accept all your credits. you must first find out what are the subjects that can be transferred to the university that you wish to go. if the university does not accept subjects that you did, then you will be wasting time and money.

This post has been edited by John89: Jul 3 2010, 08:57 PM

dreamer, you may be experienced and we all respect that. you don't have to be an ass about it. Just because you have a job even after graduating from a college/university that wasn't well known doesn't mean the hiring field is the same now as it was 20 years ago. You have hired graduates from the USA sure, but maybe that's YOUR company's standard to disregard what university the graduates are from. From MY experience talking to recruiters, the university is a small but still a good factor in the hiring process.

seems to me that you have acquired this arrogance because you believe yourself to be above all the "fresh faced know-nothings" around here.

This post has been edited by spunkberry: Jul 21 2010, 11:04 AM

Lets say if we have already in the States University that we are in for our ADP program, is it possible for us to get a transfer to other Universities?

Could you give the specific scenario you're thinking of? I don't really understand what you're trying to ask.