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post Aug 8 2015, 12:28 PM, updated 11y ago

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hi

I'm trying to activate my win 10 problem i performed a clean install after an upgrade from win 8.1 to windows 10
But i performed a hdd swap in between to a ssd and now it doesn't want to activate? how can i activate my windows?



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post Aug 8 2015, 12:31 PM

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on old hdd, did u manage to successfully active win 10?
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post Aug 8 2015, 12:33 PM

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old hdd already activated when upgraded from win 8.1 to win 10

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post Aug 8 2015, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(khsj @ Aug 8 2015, 12:33 PM)
old hdd already activated when upgraded from win 8.1 to win 10
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if your win10 already activated on old hdd, just give windows 1-2days then check activate or not..

from here Why can't I activate Windows 10?

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Hardware changes

If you made substantial hardware changes to your PC, such as replacing your hard drive or motherboard, Windows might no longer be activated on your PC. For info on how to activate your PC, see the product activation article.


maybe u want to give a try using extracting key then use into windows 10 on your SSD

http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/product_cd_key_viewer.html

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post Aug 8 2015, 12:43 PM

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Clean install on old hardware (HDD) should be possible.
Changing to SSD might be the cause why windows failed to activate - if that's the case, call la Microsoft support.

p/s: Windows 8.1 original or lanun version?
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post Aug 8 2015, 12:51 PM

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This is how i did my clean install. Upgrade from Windows 8.1 to 10. After upgrade completed, extract the product key from upgraded windows 10 (there are some free tools to do this, i forgot mine as i tried a few tools before i perform clean install).

Create a bootable USB by using the Windows 10 Media Creation Tool (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10). U will need a minimum 4GB USB flash drive depend on the Windows version u download.

Boot up using USB, format and clean install with the extracted product key.

So, you might wanna swap back old HDD, extract the product key and then swap back to SSD and perform clean install again.
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post Aug 8 2015, 01:13 PM

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i think it wont work for me because i swapped hdd along the way
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post Aug 8 2015, 03:21 PM

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at administrative prompt type slui 4, select malaysia as country and proceed. you're calling ms for phone reactivation.


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post Aug 8 2015, 03:27 PM

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reinstall pirated 8.1, upgrade to 10. original again. profit???
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post Aug 8 2015, 03:45 PM

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crap ms call them ask me to call on monday
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post Aug 8 2015, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(AmeiN @ Aug 8 2015, 12:37 PM)
if your win10 already activated on old hdd, just give windows 1-2days then check activate or not..

from here Why can't I activate Windows 10?
maybe u want to give a try using extracting key then use into windows 10 on your SSD

http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/product_cd_key_viewer.html
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if change HDD then can't activate rclxub.gif


i have windows 7 OEM bought last year
i buy new PC RIG will use SSD if SSD Death i will buy new SSD so i will change SSD New one but same motherbaord
so can't activate ??? daam
hard to find Retail version sad.gif
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post Aug 8 2015, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(pakji @ Aug 8 2015, 04:15 PM)
if change HDD then can't activate  rclxub.gif
i have windows 7 OEM bought last year
i buy new PC RIG will use SSD if SSD Death i will buy new SSD so i will change SSD New one but same motherbaord
so can't activate ??? daam
hard to find Retail version  sad.gif
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If I am not mistaken, OEM version can still be used if changing drives, only motherboard change considered "new PC" by microsoft.
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post Aug 8 2015, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(pakji @ Aug 8 2015, 04:15 PM)
if change HDD then can't activate  rclxub.gif
i have windows 7 OEM bought last year
i buy new PC RIG will use SSD if SSD Death i will buy new SSD so i will change SSD New one but same motherbaord
so can't activate ??? daam
hard to find Retail version  sad.gif
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can i think but need to call microsoft biggrin.gif
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post Aug 9 2015, 11:21 AM

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FYI, I did clean install on new SSD after upgrading to windows 10 on my HDD.
But one thing I did before clean installation on new SSD - retrieve the windows 10 cd key after the upgrade on old HDD.
Please note that windows 10 key is different from key in your previous windows.

Then, I entered the key during the new installation when it prompted.

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post Aug 9 2015, 09:18 PM

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i also did migration, it works no problem.

step:
1. windows media tool to download iso file, use win7 usb tool to put at usb drive.
2. laptop uefi bios (it store oem key), hdd is gpt partition, win 8.1 upgraded to win10. (within upgrade installation, i chose 'keep nothing')
3. migrate to ssd by using easeus todo backup. (clone disk option)
4. now boot up fast as andriod phone.

* take note, the ori win8 key is stored in laptop uefi bios, so microsoft just detect n activate. now win10 do have a new key, alread written down on paper as safe copy.

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post Aug 12 2015, 08:09 AM

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Anyone here know how can i burn my windows 10 home edition to the USB pendrive after upgrading the windows.

I am trying to use it for clean install in future nod.gif
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QUOTE(bowerchung @ Aug 12 2015, 08:09 AM)
Anyone here know how can i burn my windows 10 home edition to the USB pendrive after upgrading the windows.

I am trying to use it for clean install in future  nod.gif
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Get the media creation kit from MS and run that. Then use the create disk to upgrade another PC and select USB drive.

Creating a CD might be less problematic. The setup kept asking for media driver during my install and I found out it was cos of my thumbdrive. Went through the whole process again to create the installation pack on another thumbdrive and it worked.


P.S. To the original TS. I did the Win7 to Win10 upgrade on my original HDD then pulled it and ran a clean installation on an SSD. It was activated without any intervention on my part.
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QUOTE(AmeiN @ Aug 8 2015, 12:37 PM)
from here Why can't I activate Windows 10?
maybe u want to give a try using extracting key then use into windows 10 on your SSD

http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/product_cd_key_viewer.html
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post Aug 22 2015, 07:50 AM

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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Aug 21 2015, 11:56 PM)

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dont show to ppl doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif sweat.gif

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post Aug 22 2015, 07:55 AM

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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Aug 21 2015, 11:56 PM)

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Now everybody know ur keys
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post Aug 22 2015, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(AmeiN @ Aug 22 2015, 07:50 AM)
dont show to ppl doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(zaman_chem @ Aug 22 2015, 07:55 AM)
Now everybody know ur keys
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.. don't be ridiculous. that's the same generic key that we all knew since weeks ago.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=75684493

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QUOTE(horns @ Aug 22 2015, 10:22 AM)
.. don't be ridiculous. that's the same generic key that we all knew since weeks ago.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=75684493
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ok sorry... thumbup.gif tongue.gif
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post Aug 22 2015, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(AmeiN @ Aug 22 2015, 10:24 AM)
ok sorry...  thumbup.gif  tongue.gif
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hehe no apology needed. many are still unaware that w10 upgrade path uses hardware id instead of product key to identify our computers. that generic key is used just to fill up the key place holder only.
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QUOTE(horns @ Aug 22 2015, 10:32 AM)
hehe no apology needed. many are still unaware that w10 upgrade path uses hardware id instead of product key to identify our computers. that generic key is used just to fill up the key place holder only.
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because i read somewhere on microsoft blog i quest we still can extract key.. hmm.gif

so it is impossible to get key after upgrade?
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QUOTE(AmeiN @ Aug 22 2015, 10:35 AM)
because i read somewhere on microsoft blog i quest we still can extract key..  hmm.gif

so it is impossible to get key after upgrade?
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yes you can still extract the key. the thing is that if we used w10 upgrade, we all have the same dummy key.

as of now, we will not be given a valid and unique w10 key with w10 upgrade offer. hardware id is the only thing that is used to identify our computers and activate w10 on it.

i found what happened to ts weird, because some one did the same thing and got it to work. https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=75802021

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post Aug 22 2015, 04:47 PM

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I have upgraded my PC from Win7 Ultimate (OEM) to Win10 Pro. Win10 Pro is activated.

I just bought a new SSD a few days back as I plan to do a clean install of Win10 today on it.

Do I need to backup any key or no need since it is a generic key?
Will Win10 activate since I'm changing from HDD to SSD on my PC?

Edit: After more reading, should be no problem right, since the Hardware ID is already with MS...

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QUOTE(AmeiN @ Aug 22 2015, 07:50 AM)
dont show to ppl doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(zaman_chem @ Aug 22 2015, 07:55 AM)
Now everybody know ur keys
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post Aug 23 2015, 08:48 PM

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Just want to share that what i did.

Surface pro 3: I upgrade the windows pro 8.1 oem to windows 10 pro with no problem, and ensure the windows successfully activated
And then I get the ISO from windows website, and do a clean install directly using that ISO and once login to windows 10 pro and connected to Internet, it showing windows activated.

Msi gt70 2od: this computer come with windows 8.1 single language oem , and then I got the retail windows 8.1 pro key from student offer and has been used in this computer. When prompted to upgrade to windows 10 , with no problem as well, it showing activated.
After that I use the same ISO from Microsoft to perform clean install, but this computer cannot be activated under windows 10 pro, however I still manage to activate the windows if I upgrade to windows 10 from windows 8.1 pro

So I'm thinking that, if the laptop perform clean install of windows 10, it will read the key form bios (oem single license) and store somewhere in windows 10. Once I connected to Internet and doing activation, it will fail as previously the windows activated with combination of hardware I'd + windows 8.1 pro key

I still got one desktop with windows 8.1 pro since I assembly it, I think should have no problem to do clean install, as the motherboard don't have any oem key has been set in it.
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QUOTE(ngyinchew @ Aug 23 2015, 08:48 PM)
Just want to share that what i did.

Surface pro 3: I upgrade the windows pro 8.1 oem  to windows 10 pro with no problem, and ensure the windows successfully activated
And then I get the ISO from windows website, and do a clean install directly using that ISO and once login to windows 10 pro and connected to Internet, it showing windows activated.

Msi gt70 2od: this computer come with windows 8.1 single language oem , and then I got the retail windows 8.1 pro key from student offer and has been used in this computer. When prompted to upgrade to windows 10 , with no problem as well, it showing activated.
After that I use the same ISO from Microsoft to perform clean install, but this computer cannot be activated under windows 10 pro, however I still manage to activate the windows if I upgrade to windows 10 from windows 8.1 pro

So I'm thinking that, if the laptop perform clean install of windows 10, it will read the key form bios (oem single license) and store somewhere in windows 10. Once I connected to Internet and doing activation, it will fail as previously the windows activated with combination of hardware I'd + windows 8.1 pro key

I still got one desktop with windows 8.1 pro since I assembly it, I think should have no problem to do clean install, as the motherboard don't have any oem key has been set in it.
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weird. actually that's not the case for your case 2 (msi laptop). i did the same on xps (stock w8.1 core key in bios; but i use w81. pro retail) on w8.1 pro to w10 pro; w10 pro got activated after clean install. i waited for a few days before doing the clean install.
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QUOTE(horns @ Aug 23 2015, 09:04 PM)
weird. actually that's not the case for your case 2 (msi laptop). i did the same on xps (stock w8.1 core key in bios; but i use w81. pro retail) on w8.1 pro to w10 pro; w10 pro got activated after clean install. i waited for a few days before doing the clean install.
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i used msi for almost 2 weeks after upgraded to windows 10 pro, that weird...

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QUOTE(ngyinchew @ Aug 24 2015, 01:33 PM)
i used msi for almost 2 weeks after upgraded to windows 10 pro, that weird...
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maybe i did this before the official release on 29 july. (i used the leaked rtm iso, did the upgrade, waited for few days, then a clean install)
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Can confirm using a new HDD to clean install after upgrading to W10 on old HDD will activate successfully.

 

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