This is how i feel :

1. too much pinned topic.
2. too much thread spawning basically discussing the same thing.
3. The DS thread which has DS owner list should merge with DS Lite thread.

there's too much thread here right now and sometimes it gets overwhelming which thread to read and reply. I think the DS thread is where you all should post all your kopitiam stuff.

well this is how i feel.

yup i agree, not just that, too much off topic spam

Lack of mod? Mudmaniac is too busy to govern this thread i suppose And the other 2 mod I either dont seen them often or dont see them at all.

Suet dont come here anymore maybe cos bidfurdun scared her away.

Can we get a new mod that is here everyday?

I agree.

1. November Meetup Poll and Great Nintendo DS Meetup can be combined.

2. DSLite club and DS thread? Isn't it the same thing. A DS is a DS whether lite or phat.

3. Personally, I don't think the Nintendo counter in Malaysia deserves to be pinned.

4. New mod? hmm..i nominate evo!

Or the nintendo comes to malaysia thread can be pinned as a report of new games arrive at the counter?...That would be nice because ppl wont have to purposely go MV just to find that the game not yet arrive

who scare Suet? who who who? lets all drag him out and make him play Warioware twisted standing in front of crowded place.


WHO WHO WHO?!

mod?... uh... why i feel things seems fine le?

OK one la... it is an active thread ma... not like the competitor "S" brand thing... hee hee

The main reason I created a "Upcoming Game Releases" thread is to accomodate game info's, screenshots, trailers, movies, and various other news. Instead of posting these info into the thread, people seem to be opening up a new threads. Based on your prespective, you may see this as right or wrong..

Long ago I was also reluctant to support the DSL thread, but since it has gained it's own followings, it still lives till today. I believe that some DSL members has segregated themselves from being part of the Nintendo DS thread, if we do decide to throw/merge DSL with DS, I suggest the people from the DSL thread re-announce themselves in the DS thread.

As Mr. Hahn said, kopitiam talks should be based in their own respective threads, such as news about that specific device(DS, GC, Wii, GBA).

Games that has been released, and NOT released, should be discussed in the "Upcoming Game Releases" thread.

Lastly, the FAQ should have all info, DS, Wii, GBA, GC.. And that includes Wifi troubleshooting, and also friendcodes.

actually Suet is a she

reveur and zio : i think no need new mod, just need the current one s do something bout it.... or maybe we nominate sihumchai!

i agree sihumchai, beside discussing about games here, the thread itself can act as a mini-wikipedia with infos

My index finger loss some feeling after reading that sentence

With that said, this thread is more about "How to improve our Nintendo thread" rather than a complain

Feedback guys!

need a new mod to jaga.... evohann nomination i second....

I think hot games (for those have been released) deserve their own topics or else Upcoming Game Releases thread will be very messy, with people asking "how to get onion knights ah?" or "how to catch (insert pokemon's name here)".

News for those yet to be released should remained in Upcoming Game Releases thread.


Agreed.
In fact PM had been saving me from that trouble for times

As everyone said, Upcoming Game Releases should be about Upcoming Releases and not talk about games that have already been released.

I also feel the need to educate people on the "search" function.

The nintendo counter thread should be unpinned and a new thread should be made where either PM or some other Nintendo counter personnel comes in and make announcements.

The market thread is also kinda messy right now with a lot of people double posting. I actually prefer the ones in the Sony area or the XBox area (except PJ is kinda busy to clean it up these days).

I think i need to be a temp mod first... hehe.. then i will re arrange the whole forum.. after tat... i can relinquish as a mod...

if not.. i second the notion that evoHann be teh mod..

This post has been edited by firstknight: Nov 14 2006, 12:37 PM

Agreed way too much thread discuss same issues.

I have no problem is someone want to merge my NDSLite Club to DS Club. Basically it started as a list only with the intention to discuss Lite specific news and issues but then new thread emerge discussion price, accesories etc2. So in the end its become mainly for forumers to 'register' their dsl.

I still think its ok to open a thread just to discuss acccesories, one for pricing. Specific thread for a particular games. But upcoming games, news should only stay in one forum only. And newbie should learn to use search button.

Maybe new mod that like to spend sometime here whould help put things organised. There are a few nomination already. Why not?

or like firstknight suggest, temporary mod helping busy mod is a good idea. I belive there are a few takers who are willing to help.

This post has been edited by abe_mad: Nov 14 2006, 01:23 PM

Erm, game discussions(threads) may actually be brought up if there ARE people playing the game.

Prime's game list should be sent to "Upcoming Game Releases" because I update the 1st post whenever a game has been released. Future release dates should be reported there. I don't like the fact that I'm alone on this

But I degress, this isn't my thread/forum nomatter how informative I wanna be

Well if want to cut out pinned, i suggest we cut

1. nintendo in malaysia
2. faq - just ask in respective thread
3. pool/meet-up - merge into one Nintendo Community only.

But at least there should be pinned:

1. Wii
2. DS
3. Gamecube + GBA
4. Codes - DS + Wii - One post per person only
5. Chamber of Commerce

I wish my DSLite can merge with DS community which list what games a person have. But I like it to be like Chamber of Commerce, one post per person only. But i'm not a mod to enforce this. Plus mod have other things to do.

Or..... Make a new subcategories :

1. Nintendo Games sub Forum
2. Accesories Discussions
3. Homebrew

This post has been edited by abe_mad: Nov 14 2006, 01:42 PM

i dont find any problem with nintendo thread to be honest.

the only low point i find it here is it aint's active enough...

but on the other hand, NDS is meant to be enjoy playing, not to talk about.

All in all. We all agree in oen thing. A more active mod. Evohahn. Go apply lar.

good feedbacks guys i think the pinned topic should look like this :

1. Nintendo FAQ-any general Q can be asked here
2. DS meetup
3. Ninty Kopitiam a.k.a spam thread
4. DS thread ( phat + lite + friend codes + upcoming games)
5. Wii
6. GC+ GB
7. Chambers of Commerce
8. Ninty store in Malaysia

Well any new games deserve a thread if lots of peeps playing it, imho.

i'm sending a pm to mud.

Whoa! Too much caps... >_>

I don't think this Nintendo forum in dire situation. But it won't hurt to have a little cleanup to tidy things up. There're too much pinned topics already.Pinned topics should looked like this, IMO.

1. Since we're ultilizing manual votes, there're no need for the voting thread. Polls should be held in the main meetup thread instead.

2. GC + GBA + any old ninty system.

3. Wii

4. DS (all DS and DS Lite questions/discussions should be posted here.

5. Upcoming games thread

6. Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection (Friend Codes, technical/settings, game hosting/organization)

7. Yup, a Ninty community spam thread.

8. Maybe I'll create a thread for Malaysia Ninty shop and update from there. Doesn't need to be pinned though.

Questions/FAQ should be asked/posted in their respective threads.

Since Kite and H@H@ isn't very active in the Nintendo forum, and Sony's forum have 2 user mods. I think another mod is needed here. I don't mind anyone as long he/she does his/her job.

Agree with what sihum said.
Way to much new thread, especially when a new game coming out.
Good idea for adding "Ninty Kopitiam a.k.a spam thread"
For "DS thread ( phat + lite + friend codes + upcoming games)" - That should have well be combine since the 1st day of DS lite release.

Wow, somehow there's alot of old-timers coming back since this thread was made

I'll leave this mess up to you guys.. I just want to see a CLEAN sub-forum.. Not too many pinned, the less the better.

DS/GBA Thread
Wii/GC Thread
Upcoming Games Thread
FAQ Thread = Mini-wiki style, NiWiFi, System Info, Friendcodes
Pasar Malam Thread
Nintendo Gatherings Thread

I've narrowed this down to 6, from 11

Feedback feedback!

Haha.... for me... i will put few main topic... then under there sub topics... hehe.. i wont be writing wat i will be doing... cos that will take time for me to think... if i am doing.. i will start thinking la.. hehe.. since evoHan is on it.. let him do lor.. keke...

Well, i agree with sihum list.
But why put Pasar Malam Thread,
sihum...got no other better name meh...

Anyway, as long it is tidy and easy to get what we wanted, it shall be fine.
I still love to come and read the stuff your guy post.
Your guy are totally hardcore Nintendo fanboy.

lol! Just a temporary name You know our mod likes funky names like "Nintendo Chamber of Commerce and Trade".. So.. let him decide

I'm glad you still come around here, hardcore Ninty fanboeys eh!? Bring on the torches and pitch-forks!!

Actually i like the "Nintendo Chamber of Commerce and Trade" name alot.
Hope i see more interesting name coming up.
I seldom play games nowadays, but i always drop by and read the post.
How i wish i'm still a college student.


Erhhh...why my post count never adding up geh??? Nvm la

This post has been edited by bozerman: Nov 14 2006, 05:04 PM

post in console couch doesnt count into your total post as a result of spamming few years back...when there's only Gamers Hideout...

Now we we should bring this to the attention of the LYN staff.

BUMPED for attention!

revuer: You volunteered to do the Nintendo FAQ but have not gotten back to me about facts I asked corrected since Oct 9th. I'm gonna need the rest of the FAQ including the sections about online connectivity.

sihum: your six thread suggestion looks good. i'll see what i can do about getting that set up. i wish tho, that people ACTUALLY submitted information here in a wiki-able manner like i had hoped for the wifi connection thread. eventually i just gave up on that. and it turned into another spam chat thread.

evo: thanks for the input. its good to hear what everyone thinks about this sub-forum.

In general i find that friend codes and chamber of commerce are littered with old codes and trades(respectively) that few people give me notification to delete or update. expect that i will be doing a lot of pruning and deleting soon.

Aiyak, Sorry man. I never got around to do that. Let me get to it and get back to you.
Edit: Or maybe not. FAQ gone. Oh well. Since i have the time now. I think i can redo it

This post has been edited by reveur: Nov 16 2006, 07:41 AM

Rev: You may use info found on wiki.. Just make sure to put the source. Don't have to be too descriptive, maybe you can plagarize around.

Looking forward to the 'cleaner' sub-forum, and thanks modmud.

rev: its still there. just you cant see it. and wikipedia may indeed be a good source to derive some info. be careful of bias tho.

I see some improvements.. One step at a time.

Now, to get rid of GC thread and be merge with Wii thread. Abit sakit hati tho'.. But the GC still lives in the belly of the Wii.

DS should be Nintendo Handheld Discussions right? Or should it be remained as DS thread(but with GBA talk too).

Should we have fresher names for our thread(s)? I think everyone might agree with a new 'look'.. I appoint Mr. Mud to do the naming

The new list of pinned topics is a bit disorientating at first, but it certainly looks neater.

And you have my vote for "fresher names for our thread(s)"

I agree wholeheartedly. Sometimes we get far too many threads on the ONE game, or issue (adapter, price, screen protector, etc).

and here I thought we were tryin to out-Post the other console threads..
personally, I think that things look ok so far... without threads, there won't be much to talk about... one of the reasons why I bought my NDS was because there was quite some info here to check up on and it's easy to read threads with 2-5 pages, rather than having to go through 40 pages of 'accesories' which would probably be filled with spam.

I have decided to bump this 28 months old thread up again because the same problem has plagued this Nintendo subforum yet again.

The problem:

• Too many pinned thread for the same thing, for example the DS and DS FAQ thread. And why the heck do we need 2 Friend Code threads!?
• Most of the pinned threads are under-ultilised.
• Too many new threads asking trival questions like prices, availability, and even your top games. Which is better posted on it's respective systems thread.
• The Nintendo Chamber of Commerce is littered with old outdated tradelist and double posts, despite the warnings put on the thread description and the thread's R&R.
• Mysterious illness that make some people display coughing like symptoms. *ahem* *ahem*

My proposal:

• Reorganizing the pinned threads
  + Merge the Wii/ DS threads with its respective FAQ threads, with complete and updated infomations.
  + One single Friend Code thread for all Friend Codes (DS and Wii). Each member is allowed one post only to post (and updating) their FCs. After that they can link it to their signature, the same way everyone do with the sucessful trade list.
  + One thread for the upcoming games releases, with the first few posts reserved for cataloging LYN members ori games list for all Nintendo systems.
  + Nintendo Chamber of Commerce to be restarted every month similiar to the Playstation subforum's PlayStation Store.
  + A Nintendo WFC thread for Wii/ DS networking related discussion. (compatable routers for example)
  + Retro Nintendo systems thread!
  + A READ ME FIRST THREAD for forum newbies.
  + And of course, our Great LYN Nintendo DS Meetup thread.
• Redundant/ duplicate threads should be closed or redirected to suitable threads.
• Users should report posts related to piracy instead of commenting on them. :/
• WE NEED MOAR MODS!

Some could be hard to implement especially rewriting the entire FAQs for the new threads. And there're no indication when sihum will return, so we need someone to at least temporarily help in this subforum along with Mudmaniac.

So what's your opinions or suggestions on this?

Still the same question. where is sihumchai currently?

forget sihum, we need to close all thread regarding wii peripherals and accessories, it seems no one talks about games anymore here

predictably so when it cost less than rm10 a pop it seems...

This post has been edited by why_79: Mar 23 2009, 11:13 PM

Hey man, you cant blame it. It seems like the kopitiam thread is the most active thread here. if there is one thread should be removed, I would suggest removal of kopitiam. Undoubtedly it can make this place this livelier, the problem is people wont visit nintendo thread for its games but just for some trivial talks.

PS. I think I will kena shoot bcos of this post.

This post has been edited by bidfordun: Mar 23 2009, 11:15 PM

ok no game talk i can still tolerate but piracy talk no, so pls close any thread regarding modded wii or anything even remotely related to piracy....

we need a new mod

still no one tells me why sihumchai is nowhere to be found now.

i believe we could consolidate them into a single thread.

Viva la revolution!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Believe it or not..without kopitiam..the nintendo thread is dead

The Kopitiam is the reason there're less spam in other threads, plus there're more discussion on PS3 or 360 than Wii/ DS in it anyway (not to mention the nennens too!). It should stay where it belongs, the Ninty community needs somewhere we can chat.

I think we should consolidate all hardware discussion into its respective console/ handheld thread. If there's a high demand and a single thread can't hold it, then we can open a saparate thread for peripherals and accessories.

we had a peripheral thread, it's gone.

that pinned upcoming game thread should be gone...better put special thread for any upcoming game on its own..no need one thread bundle all upcoming titles

I think this sub forum will be a better place with zero pirate tolerance policy

And if you realize, most of the people who are active in this forum are Kopitiam's regular customers, so I don't see the removal of it would benefit. Plus the many topics that has been started here are non kopitiam regulars and most of the time asking these 3 main questions:

1. "Where to get Wii/NDS games?", which will eventually lead to people bringing up pirated sources.
2. "Where to mod Wii/NDS?", again will eventually lead to people bringing up pirated sources.
3. "How to display Wii on monitor?"

If you can see there are minimal talks regarding the games themselves, which I can think of 2 reasons, one being people value less of the games due to piracy, and secondly there's nothing much to talk about the games themselves as hot titles are often lacking for Nintendo consoles.

Unfortunately I have to agree with gundam.

As piracy for Wii and DS grows, less and less people will be interested to talk about the games as to the pirates, these games are worth exactly RM 5-10. The drought of (and difficulty of bringing in) good games for Wii doesn't help either.

The hardcore gamers will still frequent kopitiam as it's a familiar friendly place...however I don't see new gamers coming in, at least not those I would call real gamers.

on the ds there's many..on the wii..once in a blue moon

I know of a Suikoden freak (I'm not going to expose his name here) who was really interested in this game and actively discussing it but due to difficulty in getting it locally legally he just stopped talking and wanting this game altogether.

I stopped talking about Suikoden as well,
importing from PlayAsia now.

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Added on March 24, 2009, 12:02 pmAgree. Agree. Agree.
What else can i say?

This post has been edited by neogeocdz: Mar 24 2009, 12:02 PM

I don't know if a blanket ban on DS flashcarts and Wii modding would work here, people just keep asking about it everywhere and it's impossible to stop it all. At least I would like to keep it restricted to a single thread with zero tolerance on piracy.

And the "Upcoming games list thread" can double as a "gloating thread" where everyone can show off their ori game collections. Hopefully it can encourage people to buy more ori stuffs.

I think sharing members' collections is a good idea but then it will lead to war room like "OKK spotted!" or "This is a e-p thread" etc

unless there's a strong online support for wii games..i dun see why other ppl wanna increase their wii collection

Other than becoming a e-p thread. I have an idea that puts the list to good use, we can use the list to construct a "Top 10" games list for each platforms or genres. After all, if people are willing to spend money to buy a certain ori game, that game must be good right?

But that can be a bit time-consuming to do the initial analysis. But after that it should be relatively easy to maintain it.

So, who wants to be the new mod here?

An ori-games show-off thread would be nice. There's one riding on the pinned Nintendo DS thread. But it would be a little boring though, since the trend is to only buy the same games, so what's the point to show off in the first place if there's no diversity

And yeah, this sub-forum should get a new mod first.

eleh...lagi mau tanya?

what happened to sihum?

tanya lah, mana tau ada calon lagi sesuai ker.

sihum's probably busy.

Want to ask veterans here.. so did sihum get promoted from this thread 2 years ago?

The answer is yes if my memory serves me right.

not 3 years ago? i think is 3 years ago, cuz is year 2009 now

2 years 4 months to be exact.

actually,i'm quite agree with this

but,nintendo thread should be more about nintendo

YEAH GAME!!

So you think a forum with nothing but games will be good hafez? The way I see Kopitiam is that it's a place for us to know each other better and occasionally voice out our opinions regarding the current trend of the industry. What will happen if I openly declare Wii sucks with a new thread here? I'd be doomed for sure, but my constant nagging in on this issue is more like a open discussion instead, some agree and some not.

If Kopitiam is just filled with NDSi news then that or the dedicated NDSi thread would become redundant. No?

If one day this sub-forum really only contain gaming related stuff then I will be the first to go.

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Added on March 24, 2009, 3:05 pmI'm going to leave Kopitiam for 3 days and you try to put up all your NDSi news there and see how the thread goes. If it's better than the current random gaming discussions then I'll retire for good, deal?

This post has been edited by gundamalpha: Mar 24 2009, 03:05 PM

Way too many threads regarding piracy here. We need to kick them out!

the problem with the lack of active threads is because the regulars don't start many game threads with their rate of buying new wii games leaving the outsiders to open threads about mods and accessories/peripherals so on which often lead to non-lasting discussion or worst, piracy talk.

and as many and myself pointed out, outsiders got no appreciation for wii games because of its cost....

so unless the regulars step up and buy more or start more active discussion about wii games the situation is unlikely to improve.

It's a vicious cycle. lack of wii quality wii games makes for less discussion which opens up for newbies to talk about piracy which means they create temporary, shortlived threads which is made worse by lack of quality wii games

even the ones playing the batuk version don't start any active discussion about the wii games... or is it really because wii hv no good games as often as it should?

buying or not...if there is a game worth mentioning..ppl will talk about it.

u can see the difference in xbox360 thread...they hv piracy too (though ppl dun say openly) but the game thread lives!!!

true, xbox have more true-blue hardcore gamers.... i guess piracy+casual gamers is a deadly formula.

anyways i think we should revive bose's what are u playing now thread because it's unlikely we will all be playing the same game so it doesn't have to be too strict but at least so form of game discussion is taking place.

nintendo is not very popular compared to microsoft (windows) and sony..... (In my place....)

I think nintendo section lack topic that talk about games..... everytime I see WTB etc here only.....

The nintendo kopitiam has been around for a while now. Before that there was pretty much only games talk and with that, there were about all of 4 people in here daily.
Granted this was a time when Gamecube was floundering, DS phat just debut, and Wii was a rumour called the Revolution, but its been the place all youse been bragging about which game baru beli baru sampai. generally, i figures its a good place to chat and destress.
You want kopitiam stopped its up to you all.


As for changes on the pinned topics, many of them are like that because people that are not me decided they would be responsible for keeping them up to date, but eventually left them lying flat, and neglected to find someone else willing to take up the job.
There is a great deal of information in those pinned thread, ranging from wifi routers, to connections tutorials, to friend codes. its all a mess.


1)i find that a list of friend codes is next to useless. when you add someone, that someone doesn't not receive a friend notification on their own wii/Ds (if im remember correctly). Wouldn't it be better to have a short thread where people advertise the games that they want friend codes for, and anyone interested can PM the said persons. I would not mind deleting posts older than a week, but i forget easily and need to be reminded.

2)Upcoming games is dead. I will throw it away now.

3)Network technical stuff is all over the place. forum threads are just not meant to hold this kind of information. Any suggestions?
I would think an external link would be acceptable somewhat. but even then someones gotta html a nice webpage for the stuff. and keep it updated.

4)I never felt that a forum was a good place to put FAQ. In order to access the information properly its got to be in a question/answer format. its doable, just needs someone to start.

5)Pirate talk is always the talk about the town. I would not have threads to prune otherwise. if you see something the report button is just a click away. I generally ignore reports along the lines of "Duh bad man hurt mah feewings!!" reports, but will pretty readily remove and "ARR" talk. as a rule of thumb, if a thread is getting hot and you are NOT one of the parties making loud rants, please report it.


Sihum has not been online since February. I'm thinking about giving him a call.

I dint not say we should filled with all with NDSi news,no?
hmm,i suppose u'r right,but as i seen on the Nintendo thread,all i could see active is the kopitiam,while the playstation thread

but hey,don't take it too seriously,sampai retired..

abisla hafez...gundam taknak geng

itu la
i just express my opinion
tu je

I honestly think the call to kill Kopitiam is not very clever.
Go ahead if u guys wants to kill the whole Nintendo Forum.

This is a graveyard without Kopitiam.
Wii / DS games are pirated to the max in Malaysia,
i guess not much ppl have a second thought when comes to buying
pirated Wii games.

Hence no one actually cares to discuss it be4 buying it.

I was a bit suprised when i saw this topic - "When did i create this topic?" LOL

as result of this thread - we got the ninty kopitiam (i was the 1st thread starter for the kopitiam )- plus new mods for ninty subforum. The thing with kopitiam is to stop SPAMMING and creation of multiple thread on the same topic.

IINM there's already a thread on posting pictures of gaming collection.

and as for me - i'm still gaming now and then - got my wii last january - but i'm playing GC games on it

wow. its been ages man.

reunion orang tua2

dun make fun just yet. 40 is closer than you think. and that hair isnt going to stay mat jambul forever.

Sudah braper lama dah guys... hahaha.

lama dah

i know...coz i'm 32

Then join ussssssss.

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Added on March 25, 2009, 9:11 amanyways, any more feedback on how to reduce the clutter? if no one volunteers to upkeep things like network and machine FAQs, i might be inclined to remove them.

This post has been edited by Mudmaniac: Mar 25 2009, 09:11 AM

probably a pinned thread older than 3 month can be thrown away

Pinned FAQ for DS and the other pinned DS thread to be merged?

Pinned Wii FAQ and the other pinned Wii thread to be merged?

Compatible wireless router's info be placed in the Wii FAQ and DS Faq - one entry each perhaps?

Wii and NDSL codes to be scrapped, to include in first post/page of respective games thread like what they are doing in the animal crossing thread?

The DS FAQ thread should be renamed and serves as the main DS discussion, and it's the same with the Wii FAQ thread. It should be temporary until someone rewrites the FAQs, maybe I can start writing one for the DS if I can find some time.

I'll restart the Nintendo Chamber of Commerce if modmud gives the green light, and I'll restart the thread every month to keep the list fresh. Or the moderators can create one so it's easier (and faster) to get it pinned and cleaned up.

The Friend Code thread should serves as a database for everyone to put all their FCs in one place (one post per member). It's hard to track down their own FCs if they have to put it in saperate threads, plus the games thread needs to be updated regularly.

I don't know why there're suggestions to abollish the Kopitiam. Before the Ninty Kopitiam was started, most of the threads are filled with lots of off-topic discussions. And what I can see that people are talking about PS3/ 360 more than the DS/ Wii anyway.

Lets start with small changes first before planning the next course of action.

This post has been edited by Pr1me_Minister: Mar 25 2009, 07:02 PM

here is my 2 sen on Friend Codes.

you add person A's friend code, person A doesnt know you have added their code and WFC doesnt notify person A.
you list out your friend codes. person a adds your friend codes, but by that time you may not even be playing that game anymore.


the next solution in my mind is a friend exchange thread. anyone that wants to get friend codes, place their post in this thread. all other people that are interested, PM the poster. exchange codes 1on1. this way successful adds are more assured.

Posts over a week are removed, and the process begins anew.

since sihum has been eaten by greyshadow can we bump prime up as a mod, on probation at least?

I prefer giving people a post each to list out their codes. It's a major hassle to turn on the Wii/ DS just to copy the Friend Codes every single week. And you can still PM the person you want to exchange FCs with this way.

If nothing is done to this subforum now which is worsening by the day. I might just pissed off enough to stop caring about it. Just how many times I have to click on the "Report" button and still seeing countless redundant and piracy threads around here.

This post has been edited by Pr1me_Minister: Apr 1 2009, 04:39 PM

What is better for this subforum, more participants or more relevant threads? I'm a bit confused TBH

actually the main culprit here is the friend code system..who the hell invented that?

Err, isn't it Nintendo?