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post Aug 17 2015, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Aug 14 2015, 11:18 AM)
Thanks for the information. So it is the problematic gearbox of the CVT that causes the loud sound. I thought the sound is coming from the engine.

Was planning to drive the car for another 2 years before I sell it for something else but it might be sooner than I thought after all these recent hiccups. I was told that the gearbox replacement may not be completed in 2 weeks time and may drag up to 1 month. Can't afford be a slave to the car although fortunately I have another backup car in the Ford Focus, which the clutch fix is also due very soon.
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So whats the status of your gearbox?really kaput?and what is your car mileage now btw?
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post Aug 17 2015, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Aug 17 2015, 10:02 PM)
The gearbox kaput already. Mileage of the car is about 38,000km. The car can still actually be driven on the roads if I don't know about the severity of the problem. Only after the car was checked by the mechanic at the service centre I was informed about the condition of the gearbox. I requested to drive the car back home (it will take several days for them to make a report and order the part) but it was rejected due to safety reasons.

Such a coincidence that the clutch fix of my Ford Focus was scheduled today, and it has to be cancelled as I will not have a car to use if send the Ford Focus in to the service centre.
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38k km is still very low mileage..mine is 2013 batch and currently 67k km..i dun do hard revving but drive at high speed at 140-160 once every week when i travel on seremban highway.
This punch cvt was tested up to 200k km. Probably yours is one of the few isolated defective ones
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post Aug 18 2015, 08:12 AM

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Anyone here with mileage higher than 100k km without suffering any cvt issues?
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post Aug 18 2015, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Aug 18 2015, 08:13 AM)
Yes, likely a few bad batch of isolated cases, though I note that there are other owners who have had problems with the gearbox as well although the number of cases is unknown.

Do you use PLUS or LEKAS highway when you drive to Seremban on the weekends? PLUS is usually quite packed with many cars. THere are very few cars on LEKAS highway and it's a nice drive especially in the mornings.
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I use PLUS and to be exact is the melaka to seremban stretch that allows drivers to go faster but i do not speed above 140 all the way.Is more like driving at speed limit alternating with 10minutes duration at higher speed. Been travelling almost every weekend past 2 years and so far my car is still going strong. I shud be touching 90k km by the end of 3rd year i own the car.

Anyone exceed 100k km yet?
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post Aug 27 2015, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Aug 27 2015, 01:30 PM)
ah dang... ori brake pad i heard rm350 for front set only.. shit
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I paid 500 for the front set which i feel is not worth it..if i get to choose again i would do outside for less than 200..basically u lose warranty on the rotors only
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post Aug 27 2015, 03:29 PM

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[quote=ben3003,Aug 27 2015, 03:18 PM]
okok, then better i do outside, save damn lot.. i think labour fee also not that much ks..

Rm20-40 for labour..lelong is selling trw preve brake pads for less than rm100 per pair..bendix is only 150 per pair..keep us updated on what brand u use..planning to change my back pair soon
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post Aug 27 2015, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Aug 27 2015, 03:32 PM)
I already stock up on factory TRW pads. Haha, take from people who upgraded their brake pads. I just need to fit it in once mine finishes.
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Lelong is selling as cheap as rm50 per pair..since u bought many are there actually any fake trw brake pads in the market?
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post Aug 27 2015, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Aug 27 2015, 04:37 PM)
I didn't even have to buy. laugh.gif
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post Aug 28 2015, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Aug 28 2015, 07:41 AM)
May I ask at what mileage do you change your front brake pads? Above 40,000km?
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Around 35k if i rememeber correcty..back pair havent change till now which is 70k
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post Aug 28 2015, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Aug 28 2015, 03:14 PM)
Thanks for the response. Did you change the brake pads after the you were told by the service advisor that the pads are worn, or after you detected a deterioration in the performance of the brake pads?
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They told me change..if i refuse or choose to outside they will void the warranty for the disc brake as well..but taking into account the super expensive brake pad price might as well do it outside.I was too naive at that time
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post Aug 30 2015, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Aug 29 2015, 12:40 PM)
Changing brake pads outside will void warranty for disc brakes? Oh well, guess that is their tactic of getting more income from existing owners.

If the car is problem-free, it is a good value for money car. But in my case, after several bouts of quality issues with the car especially in the gearbox and more rattling sound popping up inside the car, it is unlikely I will keep the car for more than 5 years. Even with the new gearbox, the performance of the car in the smoothness during acceleration has deteriorated a bit.

I used to alternate the Preve Turbo and Ford Focus as I own both cars. WHen the Preve Turbo was in the workshop for 2 weeks, I drove the Ford Focus to work for 2 weeks. After I returned to the Preve Turbo I noticed the lack of ergonomics when compared to the Ford Focus. The position of the gear knob and arm rest relative to the driver's seat is in such a way that it is more difficult to change gears when compared to the Ford Focus. Apart from other minor ergonomics issue. I guess Proton needs to improve more on this area in order to make quality cars, apart from the refinement in the engine/gearbox. The only good aspect of the car is the suspension which is solid and rather quiet.

Sorry for the rant. The Preve Turbo is still a good car with good value at its price point below RM70k.
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Is normal for sc to void disc brake warranty if u choose to change it on your own even for other car brands. I do agree with u that the car comes with some issues but luckily mine so far are all minor issues which doesnt not even require me to replace it if i am not fussy other than the disc brake when I first got my car.

The car is also poor in refinement as pointed by you but i guess proton is never known to be a refined car. The good point about this car is the handling and the suspension set up.having owned waja and gen2 previously i would say that proton has almost perfected the setup for our roads.It handles well and doesnt squeeks when going throungh bumps. Even some other better car brands is not able to provide such a good setup.

Mine had served me well and for the price I am paying I am totally happy with the car.I hope u get yours sorted out asap.Do keep us updated

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post Sep 1 2015, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Sep 1 2015, 03:24 PM)
Just a quick update. I got my car to the service centre today and they detected the hose to the Turbo engine to have a tear. The sound is due to the leak through that hole. They replaced the hose. After I drove the car out from the service centre, I then got a new problem. The vibration in the car during moderate acceleration is now very strong. The whole dashboard of the car is vibrating when the car is doing moderate to hard acceleration. I can feel the vibration everywhere in the car on the dashboard and steering wheel.

On top of that, the alignment of the steering wheel has gone out. The steering wheel felt a bit loose as well.

IN summary, basically the condition of the car has deteriorated considerably after the gearbox was replaced. The car's performance (before the replacement of the faulty gearbox) is much better than after the new gearbox was installed onto the car.

From this experience, I would think that any major component replacement or upgrade may get the car into a worse state or condition instead of a better shape. Even if you have got a new component installed onto the car, ie. new gearbox or maybe new engine, it is not guaranteed that the condition of the car will improve. It may get considerably worse.

Even if there is warranty for certain parts, I would think it is a better bet that one does not encounter any problem with the car that may require a warranty claim on the part(s). It may just get your car into a poorer state with many frequent visits to troubleshoot the "after-effects" of the change.
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Sorry to hear about your bad experience.Did they manage to sort out the vibration?Could it be due to improper fitting of the certain parts during replacement?

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post Sep 7 2015, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Sep 7 2015, 12:45 PM)
Yes. At SC.
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What else is covered for this rm120 service? For my sc they are charging rm300 which includes adding gas and washing the coils..sounds a little expensive
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post Sep 8 2015, 05:30 PM

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Did my service yesterday using syntium 5000 instead of 3000 that I was using all this while. Upon reaching my house, the check engine light came on. Initially I thought the oil wasnt suitable as i was using 3000 all along. Went back to sc today and found it it was actually a defective brake switch. Got it rectified and replaced within 10mins.
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post Sep 8 2015, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(sapekman @ Sep 8 2015, 12:13 AM)
talking about engine leaking, today i dismantle my throttle body to be cleaned by myself since lately every morning i have to crank the engine twice only it will start. First crank it will begin with low rpm and dies off only on the second attempt then only it stay.
While dismantling the head plastic cover i found out that the rocker/valve cover gasket are leaking as in the pic attached.
And if i am not mistaken there is also some leaks on the engine head
What worrying me is even i didnt notice any loss of lubricant, the leaks could cause the timing belt slipping on the long run and i just gone through major service including of timing belt change couple of months ago.
BTW my cfe is 2012 model with 86K+ millage with regular (moderate speeding) driving mode.

Now i let my engine cover off to monitor the leak...

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this is on valve/rocker cover (sorry the pic is upside down)

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that is some peek under the turbo shield (engine head)

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its my throttle body cleaned without proper cleaner....heeee
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Timing belt change so early?manual states 120k km..how much it cost btw for the timing belt?
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post Sep 9 2015, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(g00glesYYl @ Sep 9 2015, 06:48 PM)
i think now no more 5000. It is 7000. This EO feel better?
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Well my sc in melaka told me syntium 3000 is no longer available but I am not sure whether is only this particular sc..Anyway 5000 feels smoother..
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post Sep 10 2015, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Sep 9 2015, 11:53 PM)
Syntium 3000 is still being produced.
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I see..then its just my sc no longer stocking up syntium 3000..Anyway 5000 is only rm30 extra..I also see my sc offering shell engine oil..Anyone has experince using shell eo on preve?
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post Sep 10 2015, 08:27 AM

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Sound from dashboard is usually difficult and troublesome to troubleshoot, especially if it requires the whole dashboard to be dismantled to pin-point the sound. If the sound is not too loud then I would advise that you live with it. If it is annoying to you, then by all means get it rectified. My car doesn't have rattling sound in the 1st year, but after hitting 3 years, there are minor rattling sound popping up here and there, from the left passenger door, the gear knob area when going over bad roads. I have to accept that rattling sound inside the cabin will eventually pop up due to wear and tear. But for a new car, if there is any unusual rattling sound I can understand it can be disconcerting.
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I wish to add that cars nowadays are not as solidly built like it used to be.Even japanese and conti car brands face similar problems with rattling sound coming from inside the car or from the suspension. I concur with you that is better to live with it than facing the risk of having parts broken from trying to rectify it
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post Sep 19 2015, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(tracemaster @ Sep 19 2015, 10:24 AM)
Doing my 1k service now, cost is rm142? Is it normal? Change engine oil petronas 800 and engine filter?
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Yes..I believe u have the free labour charge..otherwise there will be additional rm60 for labour cost
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post Nov 3 2015, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(vincent818 @ Nov 2 2015, 09:56 AM)
totally agree 100% , even my old wira still have very cool air cond  rclxm9.gif
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When proton accord launching?wats the estimated price?

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