Good day, everyone. Now i'm not very informative about cars so I need some help or advice or anything that would make me know more regarding this. I'm planning to get a subaru brz because the appearance attracts me somehow and it suits the budget. From all the reading I've done I only understood the acceleration and top speed only la. But I wanna know what you guys think of it. is it a good car? what are the pros and cons? Anything i should expect from the car?

sleepwalker BRZ yo!.

Better than CR-Z , in terms of spare parts , there are interchangeable with GT 86 .

Not just interchangeable.. they are the same. The GT 86 is made in the same factory as the BRZ. Even the body panels are stamped SUBARU.

There's actually three but forgot the name , Scion was it ? . I believe the parts for this car wont be trouble to find .

Listing pros and cons are going to be difficult unless you have a specific question to ask. Don't read. Go watch youtube videos instead.

It's all about handling and everybody who knows how to read will tell you that but they have never actually driven one long enough to actually know what it is. I have a friend who owns the S2000 and he was one of the professional drivers for the Toyota WOW roadshow taking people for rides in the 86 and after that he told me he what a great handling the car had.

I gave up a turbo and AWD for this and found that going up Genting was actually faster.... that is until it rains. After that it is completely undriveable in the wet irrespective of what kind of tyres you have. The grip is still there in the wet but traction control kicks in when you try to put power to the rear tyres.

If you want it for looks.. then get it. Nothing looks like it at that price, esp recon price. The Porsche Caymen recon is the only car that comes close.

They sell it as Scion FRS in US because there is no Toyota 86 there.

just asking, do u happen to know of any carbon built up in ur fa20?

i'm either getting a wrx my15/16 but thinking to go for ej257 for longevity.
currently wrx my15 have several minor problems (no engin/tranny issues) but as they say itz too new.

I also do know they redesign how fuel is mixed into a swirl to reduce carbon but no reports on how effective it is.

gonna get 1 and drive it as long as possible, so multi point injection might be better off.
(also do u go 2 3rd party do major service? or subie SC? minor oil change can diy lah)

Well the D4-S FA20 runs on both dual direct and port injection combo and that resolves the carbon built up typically found in most direct injection engines.

If I'm not mistaken, the DIT in the WRX does not have port injection and only DI which like other DI engines will have carbon builtup issues.

I bring it to my 3rd party Subaru specialist for servicing (I used to own a bug-eye WRX).

This post has been edited by sleepwalker: Jul 30 2015, 11:07 AM

yeah the brz and 86 combines both tech for running and idling so in theory it should be ok (hope long run no probs)
but because itz the same engine but with 2 system where else wrx is just DI with a redesign, i worry >80k km probs.

oh well, i just have to justify in getting an ej257
18inchers is not usable as DD too costly and bumpy

will prolly get ur 3rd party specialist contact in the future
(oh yeah the new sti spoiler on a brz looks crazy, done any crazy mods on ur brz?)

The carbon build up issue is typical with all DI engines esp around the intake ports. That is usually solved with an additional port injection which Toyota help build into the DS-4 FA20.

You still have to keep in mind that the BRZ/86 is a Toyota/Subaru project while the WRX is strictly Subaru and Toyota didn't allow them to use the port injection technology. Therefore they are not exactly the same engine which is why in this discussion I refer to it as the DS-4 FA20 instead of just FA20. The one in the WRX is also known as FA20 DIT to differentiate it from the FA20 in the BRZ/86.

The 'bumpiness' in the 18inches is not really due to the tyre but rather the hard suspension that it put into the car by Subaru.

If you look at my avatar, you'd notice that I don't drive a BRZ. but essentially they are the same car build by the same factory.

I have read some reviews, they say this car is favored for its handling, not its acceleration. If you have watched Initial D then you will know what does the good handling mean

Actually if you watched Initial D, it shows what bad handling means, not good handling. The fastest way to go around the corner is not to drift. Letting the tail drift is good for showmanship.. but that also means lost traction that you can't put power down on the road anymore and that would be bad for handling.

ahhh, loll. so all the while I was brainwashed by initial D. I always thought that if you are drifting into a corner you are already at the fastest speed possible.
thanks for enlightening me

to be fair, last stage initial d is all about traction/grip. rarely there's any drift going on lol.

however as all the opponents are so pro, the only way they lose is by random tire slips and spin out LOL

My EJ257 STI is currently only a month old. And to think that I bought it without being able to test drive a unit . But testing the WRX FA20, while giving me goose bumps on Intelligent mode, the CVT was a disappointment for me on Sport or Sport+ mode. While it promotes very quick gear changes, it's down shift is equally just as fast when you apply the brakes, up to the point the changes are very jerky. My wife who hardly complains when I was driving the FD2R previously, also noticed that. Test drove a second time and still had that uneasy feeling and decided to just try my luck with the STI without testing it. And with no regrets over the WRX CVT.

Currently at 2xxx KM and doing service at Glenmarie appointed service center as the one in PJ was full. Will continue to do so for warranty purposes but have already started modding

The sussy isn't as bumpy as the FD2R and you will find that they absorb our quality of roads rather well.

Only sat in the BRZ as a passenger before, thus no comments on it. A great car for sure. Just not my taste due to 2 door design ..

Get a sti bro...it's built decently 4 doors with power, brz is jz NA

Drifting doesn't win you races, but it wins the crowds and spectators

if i remember correctly, when takumi was racing with godhand (s2000), they actually explained about how "between*(dont really remember the word used) drift and grip is better in cornering at fastest speed... some sort of without full grip but not drifting either.

not a car expert but i think that what they told in the anime/manga... dont really remember which version.

This post has been edited by propdace: Jul 30 2015, 04:41 PM

thanks for the info 2k km means urs fully broken in ardy can drive hard
u use urs as a DD? waited how long, quite rare to see an sti owner here

my mates in syd all drives subies (foresters sti wrx imprezas and legacys but no brz/86) older gen only.
awesome to the point that they clocked 100k - 250k kms no problems, crashed and survived, and plenty fun driving.
legacy are damm sleepers (3.6 and even the 2.5 turbo), i wonder why no1 imports them in malaysia.

@240k for a wrx and @280k for a sti, 40k IMO is worth the no worries in the future (engine and tranny)
CVT wrx is a tard problematic for now as its still in 1st gen. (city driving though is good due to the chain drive)
my only concern is the carbon and pressurized system used in the wrx

for sti my problem is the stock brakes and rims as i do go rural and need thicker walls hence smaller rims.
(for those who say 18 inch is for rally/off road is ) tyres absorbs impacts too and negate cuts
cross fingers when im back in malaysia working I could get the ej257 before the engine updates to a FA20

too bad this f&f dont have sti/wrx clubs, more prefers beemers hondas mazda and vw i guess.

This post has been edited by springfall: Jul 30 2015, 08:03 PM