just asking, do u happen to know of any carbon built up in ur fa20?

i'm either getting a wrx my15/16 but thinking to go for ej257 for longevity.
currently wrx my15 have several minor problems (no engin/tranny issues) but as they say itz too new.

I also do know they redesign how fuel is mixed into a swirl to reduce carbon but no reports on how effective it is.

gonna get 1 and drive it as long as possible, so multi point injection might be better off.
(also do u go 2 3rd party do major service? or subie SC? minor oil change can diy lah)

yeah the brz and 86 combines both tech for running and idling so in theory it should be ok (hope long run no probs)
but because itz the same engine but with 2 system where else wrx is just DI with a redesign, i worry >80k km probs.

oh well, i just have to justify in getting an ej257
18inchers is not usable as DD too costly and bumpy

will prolly get ur 3rd party specialist contact in the future
(oh yeah the new sti spoiler on a brz looks crazy, done any crazy mods on ur brz?)

thanks for the info 2k km means urs fully broken in ardy can drive hard
u use urs as a DD? waited how long, quite rare to see an sti owner here

my mates in syd all drives subies (foresters sti wrx imprezas and legacys but no brz/86) older gen only.
awesome to the point that they clocked 100k - 250k kms no problems, crashed and survived, and plenty fun driving.
legacy are damm sleepers (3.6 and even the 2.5 turbo), i wonder why no1 imports them in malaysia.

@240k for a wrx and @280k for a sti, 40k IMO is worth the no worries in the future (engine and tranny)
CVT wrx is a tard problematic for now as its still in 1st gen. (city driving though is good due to the chain drive)
my only concern is the carbon and pressurized system used in the wrx

for sti my problem is the stock brakes and rims as i do go rural and need thicker walls hence smaller rims.
(for those who say 18 inch is for rally/off road is ) tyres absorbs impacts too and negate cuts
cross fingers when im back in malaysia working I could get the ej257 before the engine updates to a FA20

too bad this f&f dont have sti/wrx clubs, more prefers beemers hondas mazda and vw i guess.

This post has been edited by springfall: Jul 30 2015, 08:03 PM

turbo coming in for this car (maybe)
subi america boss mentioned ardy not enuf power, and there may be a refresh soon.

but really who races these cars in straight lines anyways?

not interested in 86/brz and just mentioned that in case TS wanted more power.
traffic lights smoking makes you look like an idiot in cities, straights will get u a fine and a hoon lable.
my area do that with a random saloon car, the v8's in it will prolly smoke u, dayumm SSV's XR8's
myvi tend to hog the lanes more IMO.. nvr seen a 86 hog a lane mostly just cruzing along

not living in malaysia, don't know

http://www.motorimage.net/MY/buying/info/files/pricelist.pdf
only show XV, foresters, outback (finally), wrx, sti and brz.
no price for the legacy

that seems fun,
they prolly hang out IRL better than feeding trolls here
(i mean look at some volvo, ford, proton, vw salesman/accounts here)

This post has been edited by springfall: Jul 31 2015, 09:00 AM

if then i don't think i will even bother tracking
open terrain driving more fun but cannot solo incase crash/stuck

im actually glad they don't CKD the wrx/sti as most CKD cars sold in malaysia take de standards.
driven a few got squeaking sound, plastic rattle sound, over here don't have.
i wish i can bring back a ssv redline if only tax allows..
6 liters v8 turbo pure awesomeness; dont need mod fart cannon to have pure engine rumble.
15k road tax killed that idea

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This post has been edited by springfall: Jul 31 2015, 09:57 PM

I cannot comment much since I don't own the car.
But I know few people using the FA20 in the forester (3 only).

pro's of the FA20 DI is
early power (power comes online earlier than the EJ25)
new engine redesign for the next 10 years+ (yay! or ney depends, i say yay!)
fuel economy + can use ron 95 (EJ25 ron98+ only or ringland issues increases)
sightly higher HP/tor (but car is heavier and slower apparently)
(vortex heads design or something to reduce carbon buildup seen in DI engines- need to see long term 100k' km)

Con's are
DI system (for now my uncle's forester have little carbon so this might not be of such a big deal, for now)
no signature boxer exhaust note (yeah slap a catback but the sound is less prominent)
High pressure fuel systems that is natural for the DI engine (and overall systems used in the car).
cost to maintain

there are little cons for the engine (as itz pretty well built) and the problems seen will be in the ECU tuning (early batch problems) and other areas of the car (since we are looking into the engine only).
overall itz still a new engine (as in setup) hence i'm also curious.

compare with the my13/my14 wrx, the older is more tuner/modder friendly since it shares engines with older models.

Note* FA20 DI cannot be compared to FA20 DIT found in BRZ, making this even harder to assess the carbon issues.
why should you be afraid of carbon built up? (hp loss, less fuel efficiency, costly to clean)
If you are planning to use the car short term, its no big issue i guess.

Note** im not an engine engineer, I did my research as I'm looking in purchasing one only; I may be wrong.

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This post has been edited by springfall: Aug 3 2015, 08:05 PM

oh yeah, forgotten they moved the turbo position/piping hence lost the sound..
but hard to compare sound for MY14 and MY13 since most on road dah tukar/mod till i duno.

and yeah d4s FA20, mistyped.. DIT direct injection tech i need some sleep..
thanks for picking it up

come to think about it, TS haven't come in bring updates on his decision

my uncle's forester FA20 DI used it as a DD, no issues so far.
so i guess subaru did something right

This post has been edited by springfall: Aug 4 2015, 01:15 PM

yeah remember those days commercials got mini human scrubbing the engine, not gonna be useful.

IMO if 50k' km show then i'm very scared. im guessing the fa20 will show around 100-120k'km's
for now, i read up people using catch cans which could be a placebo or myth..
another is a bunch of people revving high once a month which may clean the carbon but put more wear on the engine

yeah nasioc is great as they have a big gang there with great info and complaints lol.
whirlpool not so much since most of them branch of to specific wrx.au groups; while the forester owners tend to mod.
MCM strays from stock and sorting threads need an account.

best is still buy one and rant 5 years later like audi users
im sure some1 will fix this problem since nearly every maker is going for DI
or at least cleaning carbon will be a normal oil change service in the future

thats quite particular.
i drive manual and i had no problems.

i see u have a huge disadvantage of car selection (and even more if u only want manual cars only).

misfiring as stock?
its probably the early batch with a wrong ECU coding that is fixed ardy
or they went and use ethanol blended fuel (ron95 can be used, ron98 is still advised)

hi shinrei, and I will not reply you if you ask the same format/question again.


really? check back page 3

powerful yes few hp/torque only.
ej still more potential since have a history of mods.

mind u, not autobox but chain CVT, there is a diffrence
one is feel and hear the shift, one is rubber band and eeeeeerrrrrrr sound.

motor image also lets u import a manual wrx if u like manuals.

kimchi cars also following japs signal sticks?
or maybe since u so particular with ergonomics, can design and make a new car
sure people support u bring new brand in malaysia

can imagine, jap spec with conti design, functional and luxurious accessories, confy and sporty, sure can sale 1.

forester yes, legacy no, wrx no.
only get to drive old legacy and old impreza wrx (crashed bye bye).

the cvt is fine IMO, as a DD, cons of living in city is that one cannot push hard.
drives smooth if you're sane, 500$ (RM1.5k) fine and 2 demerits points btw if you get pulled over.
empty your demerits and u cannot drive, caught again and 20 years barred from driving; not fun.

well as many people say there is a jerk with cvt when pushed hard

legacy got s# mode?

must also note that they tuned the wrx transmission different to a family saloon car..
thats y comparing is complicated as well as factor in that some may not feel it and some is sensitive to it.

ah beng spotted
bet u hate the 101 anniversary of the traffic lights today

hmm u test the legacy some time ago rite?
if so u are lucky as the my15 editions dont have turbo..
256hp is the closest u get with the 3.6. 2.5 makes 175hp only..
only old legacy gt 2.5 turbo makes 256~ hp, or the 3.0 legacy.

pity they don't make gt versions as they are sleeping rusted up saloons.
or bring in the aurion v6

waliao thread derailed adi, later TS want legacy and wrx's

shaqeeldanial we poison u ardy, so how? still getting the brz/gt86?