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post Nov 12 2006, 09:28 PM, updated 20y ago

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Hello all LYN's guitar sifus rclxms.gif can anyone recommend me a good guitar? i haven't played in a while (5 years) and decided to give it another shot. i used to play punk a lot so that's basically the sound i'm looking for. would single coils be good for me or should i try humbuckers? any specific brands and models you guys can recommend? thanks in advance thumbup.gif
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post Nov 12 2006, 09:49 PM

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If you're on a budget, go for either SX or Yamaha Pacifica strats. Probably around the RM500 mark, but they are good......
Humbuckers are a must if you're playing punk..... but don't quote me on that.
Also, you'll need a fairly powerful or dirty amp to play punk songs.......

We ARE talking about Ramones, Sex Pistols style Punk rock and not the crappy Blink 1-8-suck right?
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post Nov 12 2006, 10:02 PM

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how about squiers tho? how does sx compared to let say a squier double fat strat? and what amps are you recommending man?
oh btw, i forgot to state my budget. roughly around RM 1500 for guitar. and maybe another RM 500 for a practice amp.

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post Nov 12 2006, 11:38 PM

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Well, these days, alot of punk rockers find that the Gibson Les Paul Special seems to be the weapon of choice. You can find the Epiphone version, but won't recommend that. The pickups just plain sucks...... something to keep in mind.

But for the price of a Squire, I would rather get a Yamaha Pacifica and put the left over cash in lets say a Vox AD30vt.....
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post Nov 12 2006, 11:42 PM

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ibanez's SA series and the RG series have some good guitars with that budget of yours...price ranging from rm900+ to 1.5k...u can give it a try and see whether it fits ur style..

there're tons of amps out there for u to try and find the one that suit ur taste...the vox AD30vt stated by blacktrix is quite good...but i went for line6 spider 2...since i'm tight on my budget...
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post Nov 12 2006, 11:48 PM

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instead of ibanez, go check out cort.
same quality but cheaper than ibanez cos cort makes some of the ibanez.
Made in indonesia.

M-200 RM680.
http://www.cort.co.kr/english/products/com...?product_id=127

Z-42 RM730.
this model has a coil tap also.
http://www.cort.co.kr/english/products/com...?product_id=114

tho i wish got the EVL Z-6, sure that one RM2k tongue.gif
http://www.cort.co.kr/english/products/com...?product_id=106

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post Nov 13 2006, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Nov 12 2006, 11:38 PM)
Well, these days, alot of punk rockers find that the Gibson Les Paul Special seems to be the weapon of choice. You can find the Epiphone version, but won't recommend that. The pickups just plain sucks...... something to keep in mind.

But for the price of a Squire, I would rather get a Yamaha Pacifica and put the left over cash in lets say a Vox AD30vt.....
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that depends actually
my epi LP classic came with gibson pickups

while not the best im not complaining
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post Nov 13 2006, 12:08 AM

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how did your epi classic come with gibson pickups?
you got 2nd hand?
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post Nov 13 2006, 09:41 AM

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I wasn't talking about the LP classic...... I'm talking about either the LP Special OR junior.

Heck, even the LP-100's Open-coil humbuckers suck....


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post Nov 13 2006, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 13 2006, 12:08 AM)
how did your epi classic come with gibson pickups?
you got 2nd hand?
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nop got it new from woh f***
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post Nov 13 2006, 10:35 AM

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haha woh f*** haha

SX wud b a gud beginner guitar to start wit smile.gif
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post Nov 13 2006, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(sean392 @ Nov 13 2006, 09:46 AM)
nop got it new from woh f***
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Epiphone Les Paul Classics come standard with Epiphone PUs, not Gibson PUs.

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i would say SX because i am using SX now.. laugh.gif just 1 year half and still functioning very well.. kinda like the sound too... besides that, i think SX is much cheaper.
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post Nov 13 2006, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(Diazepam @ Nov 13 2006, 12:19 PM)
Epiphone Les Paul Classics come standard with Epiphone PUs, not Gibson PUs.
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well
if its epi pickups it comes with epi stickers on the pickups right?
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post Nov 13 2006, 03:59 PM

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Thanks for the quick reply guys, i'll check out some of the guitars u guys mention. i like the cort EVL Z-6 and maybe the epi les paul special. but yea, need to upgrade to better pickups for the epi i guess. which store carries these particular model of guitars and can you guys recommend me a good pickup for the epi les paul special? thanks again guys thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(sean392 @ Nov 13 2006, 02:33 PM)
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if its epi pickups it comes with epi stickers on the pickups right?
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not really.
itchy hands can always take the stickers off.

no korean/china epi LPs come with gibson pickups.
wanna find out? go check the back of your pickup.
should have gibson logo engraved.
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post Nov 13 2006, 10:06 PM

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Just wana tumpang here, where can I get the 'BEST' guitar string? Because my bf guitar strings broken out as he was not using it since last year. He went to UK to continue his lesson. So, I would like to buy the guitar string and help him to fix the guitar back. Anyway, its a santa cruz guitar.
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Actually, at one point, lots of Epi LP came with Gibson USA stickers on the pickups. I think the marketing pitch was designed in the USA by Gibson.

Sorry to bust your bubble Sean but your Epi pickups are just that, Epi pickups. I hope you didn't pay extra for it because of the stickers.
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post Nov 13 2006, 10:52 PM

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This is no "best" string..... what kind of player is he? And is this for an Acoustic or an Electric? There are so many variables.... too many to list down.

Back to the guitar pickups..... would suggest something Bright for the Les Paul special.... maybe Seymour live wires or something like that.

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QUOTE(noisetrigger @ Nov 13 2006, 10:51 PM)
Actually, at one point, lots of Epi LP came with Gibson USA stickers on the pickups. I think the marketing pitch was designed in the USA by Gibson.

Sorry to bust your bubble Sean but your Epi pickups are just that, Epi pickups. I hope you didn't pay extra for it because of the stickers.
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actually the current MIC ones i think come with the stickers again.
you can even see the same stickers on the fake gibsons made in the epiphone factories in China.

btw sean, how come your epi LP classic had stickers on the pickups?
the classic has open coils, normally you dont find stickers on those.

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post Nov 13 2006, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 13 2006, 10:59 PM)
actually the current MIC ones i think come with the stickers again.
you can even see the same stickers on the fake gibsons made in the epiphone factories in China.

btw sean, how come your epi LP classic had stickers on the pickups?
the classic has open coils, normally you dont find stickers on those.
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yea its open coils n it came with stickers
beats me =/

how to check the back of the pickups??


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haha
its ok lol
gives me more reason to change the pickups =p
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QUOTE(sean392 @ Nov 13 2006, 11:03 PM)
yea its open coils n it came with stickers
beats me =/

how to check the back of the pickups??
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haha
its ok lol
gives me more reason to change the pickups =p
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1. you take a screwdriver.
2. you screw open those 4 screws holding the pickup ring to the body.
3. then you see with your own eyes what it says under it.

that one also must explain?
wtf?

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 13 2006, 11:05 PM)
1. you take a screwdriver.
2. you screw open those 4 screws holding the pickup ring to the body.
3. then you see with your own eyes what it says under it.

that one also must explain?
wtf?
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i cuz i wont bother operating my guitar as i have little knowledge on whats going on inside

so of course ler need ppl like u to guide ya?
i'll do so when string change is needed.
seems like theres a long time more that the elixirs can hold out
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you using elixirs on the LP?
isnt it very bright sounding?
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post Nov 14 2006, 07:16 AM

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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Nov 13 2006, 10:52 PM)
This is no "best" string..... what kind of player is he? And is this for an Acoustic or an Electric? There are so many variables.... too many to list down.

Back to the guitar pickups..... would suggest something Bright for the Les Paul special.... maybe Seymour live wires or something like that.
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He is having a bachelor in music producing. Its a semi-acoustic guitar ( if I am not mistaken ). Which string brand should I go for and please guide on the pricing. Last time I used to help him to replace the broken string but though the owner of the shop claimed its a good quality one, the string got rusty very fast.


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If he's a music student, then he should know what string HE likes. Again, strings are very subjective to the playing style and user's preference.

Case in point, my GHS Zakk Wylde Boomers. To me, I find this the best string for my guitar because the thickness adds to the tone. But some people finds the string too thick and actually hinders their playing.

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QUOTE(jinyee80 @ Nov 14 2006, 07:16 AM)
He is having a bachelor in music producing. Its a semi-acoustic guitar ( if I am not mistaken ). Which string brand should I go for and please guide on the pricing. Last time I used to help him to replace the broken string but though the owner of the shop claimed its a good quality one, the string got rusty very fast.
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You can try Dean Markley Blue Steel or D'Addario Bronze or Phosphor Bronze (depending on how heavy he likes the gauge).

But its still really a preference thing, so he might like them or not. But if you're looking for a starting point, those are pretty much highly regarded and used.

Hope this helps.
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I think if it's a semi-acoustic. I assume it's an acoustic with a pickup.....
For me, I would recommend Ernie Ball's acoustic slinky. Some people dislike the Slinkies, but I find 'em great for beginners because of it's "slinkiness"
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Strings being stell will rust no matter what, usually within three days due to exposure to moisture. Even the best of strings do that eventually. Just buy strings around the range of RM20 to RM30++ and they should be pretty decent.

After all, there are only like 4 strings manufacturer in the world. Most of the strings came from these same four factories.
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did some browsing on the epi....currently there's 2 version; the epi lp special and epi lp special II. what's the difference between those two? and ummm which store here in KL carry epiphone? sorry to nag you guys with questions hehe, thanks in advance thumbup.gif
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Dude, for vintage punk sound you gotta get p90's guitars. I love the Gibson that Carl from Libertines use, now that's punk. ah.. Libertines... where av they gone to.. sad.gif

I think the Les Paul Junior with a p90 pickup should do it! Nyum!!! same as that Greenday guy wossisname use. With punk its all about simplicity and some low slung, downstroking action!!!

edit: here's a model i found on musician's friend

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Would recommend the Les Paul Special II and then save up cash for some P-90 pickups like Gizmoduck suggested.......

Or if you already have a cash..... go for a Gibson Les Paul Junior.... yes. GIBSON..... It's about 750USD.......... half the price of a full on Les Paul Standard.
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Wow.. Gibson are really squeezing us eh? USD 750!! Gawdang you Nashville factory workers!!!

Special II is a great option, but the problem is you won't hav the cavity to fit in a P90, which means u gona av o get the P-91s i.e. headaches.

I checked out Musicianfrens (i no fren2 wit them tho) and the Epi Les Paul jr. costs USD99.99! not bad eh? i think the atual price is around USD199.99 though but whatever, it still wont be over RM1000 which is within ur budget innit? plus u still get the option to upgrade to a Gibson's p90 when you finally get your EPF money thumbup.gif

Shops that carry EPIPHONES??? Check the shop thread lorrrrrr..

Woh Fatt, Yamaha Subang Parade, that shop in MidValley can take direct orders from the epi supplier. Just flip thru the epi catalogue and start pointing haha

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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Nov 14 2006, 07:28 AM)
If he's a music student, then he should know what string HE likes. Again, strings are very subjective to the playing style and user's preference.

Case in point, my GHS Zakk Wylde Boomers. To me, I find this the best string for my guitar because the thickness adds to the tone. But some people finds the string too thick and actually hinders their playing.
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He is in US now and will be back but not so soon. I did not tell him that the string has broken.

QUOTE(Diazepam @ Nov 14 2006, 11:09 AM)
You can try Dean Markley Blue Steel or D'Addario Bronze or Phosphor Bronze (depending on how heavy he likes the gauge).

But its still really a preference thing, so he might like them or not. But if you're looking for a starting point, those are pretty much highly regarded and used.

Hope this helps.
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He is an intermediate player I guest. The best song I heard him playing with his this Santa Cruz guitar was a country song..forgot the name..should be Missisipi girl.

QUOTE(blacktrix @ Nov 14 2006, 11:28 AM)
I think if it's a semi-acoustic. I assume it's an acoustic with a pickup.....
For me, I would recommend Ernie Ball's acoustic slinky. Some people dislike the Slinkies, but I find 'em great for beginners because of it's "slinkiness"
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Where can I get those strings that you mentioned? And will the salesperson helps me to install the whole set of strings? Because I dunno how to do it.

QUOTE(noisetrigger @ Nov 14 2006, 11:35 AM)
Strings being stell will rust no matter what, usually within three days due to exposure to moisture. Even the best of strings do that eventually. Just buy strings around the range of RM20 to RM30++ and they should be pretty decent.

After all, there are only like 4 strings manufacturer in the world. Most of the strings came from these same four factories.
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RM20-RM30+ hmm....by the way, though you said there's only 4 strings manufacturers but the thing is there's a lots of things come from China, same applies to guitar string.


I need to finalize by this friday. I hope I could buy it at Rhapsody at Midvalley or the guitar shop at the floor same with GSC.

Please advise on the place to buy, which brand to buy and how much the budget. Thanks!


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so you scared he find out a string broken and want to replace it?
if hes real used to the guitar, he would know diffrent strings are on it already from how it sounds.
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Again.... this is just MY suggestion......
You can get ESP and D'Daddario strings from The Guitar Collection in Midvalley (the one above GSC). dunno if they would change your strings...... if they do, I think they will have to charge you.

Ernie Ball slinkies can be bought from either that music shop in The Curve (top floor, near the pet shop) or Bentleys which is downtown, opposite KL plaza...... again..... don't know if they change the strings (they should), but they would take time to change them, so you might have to leave your guitar there then.

Again, prices could range from RM20 right up to RM40 depending on the brand... and about re-stringing...... MOST shops should be able to do it for you..... just leave it there, buy the strings, take a walk around the complex then come back and collect it.

EDIT: Are you changing just ONE string???? If you are, I think it's best if you buy a whole set and change them all..... your BF will find out anyway if he's a decent guitarist.
Waaaaaah. so lucky.... GF also change his guitar strings.......

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hello jinyee80,

could you please open up a thread about your *issue* (really ?), to avoid "polluting" this one ?
no more talking about strings here, thanks wink.gif
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Thanks for the help guys, i'm now down to 2 choices. either the epi lp special II, or the epi lp junior 90. i'll try the shops you guys mention this weekend. so yea thanks a lot and i'll keep you guys posted after i buy one of these axe thumbup.gif
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do
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it is a bolt-on model, its overpriced, and its crap.

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 15 2006, 01:37 AM)
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it is a bolt-on model, its overpriced, and its crap.
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I second that, I played one. The fretwork is like crap and it sounds like crap.

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it is a bolt-on model, its overpriced, and its crap.


rclxub.gif confused....so which guitar are you suggesting?
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well, i would suggest a 1958 gibson LP sunburst.
even if you were donald trump's son i doubt he'll buy one for you.

but from the models you looked at, i guess your budget is not more than RM700.
at that range, well obviously you dont read all posts in your own thread...
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what do you mean i dont read all post in my own thread? i know you recommended me the cort, blacktrix the epi les paul special and gizmoduck the epi les paul jr 90. i dunno much about guitars, thats why i post here and ask you guitar pros advice on which guitar is the best bang for my buck and suits me best.

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well, i would suggest a 1958 gibson LP sunburst.
even if you were donald trump's son i doubt he'll buy one for you.

but from the models you looked at, i guess your budget is not more than RM700.
at that range, well obviously you dont read all posts in your own thread...


and what's with the gibson? clearly my budget is only around RM 1500 rclxub.gif
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RM1500?
then why are you even looking at the epi lp special II? tongue.gif

your choices are even more now.
even higher end corts are available, ibanez also with the SZ and artist series.
if your willing to go singapore, you can get epi LP standards or even the SG models.

as for the epi jr p90, i havent seen one here yet.

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epi LP jr!!! go Go go! ike ike ike!!!

haha you might wanna order that one from Singapore, Woh Fatass, or that Mid Valley shop. RM1500 is not reeeeally a guitar range price though. you might wanna look at it like this:

400-700 (squire,juniors,sx)

1200+/- (Squire standards, Yamahas? not sure about their prices)

2K +/- (epi les pauls etc)

so add another RM500!!! forget the amp!! mwahahahahaha
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finally got my guitar. it's an epi lp jr 90 made in korea. vintage sunburst color
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Post a pic at the flash us thread!
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Awsome choice man! Congrats on your punk-rocking!
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Wow!!!! That is an awesome choice buddy!!! and its a Korean!!! not the recently crappy China ones! woohoo! keep hold of that one man, I am still regrettin for selling my Korean LP.. sad.gif
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Thanks guys, will post pictures at the flash us thread after getting my practice amp hehe. oh btw, any chance you guys know a place where you can setup up guitars here in KL?
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Dude, how does the guitar sound? Good or not? check the thread for shops, luthiers etc in the sticky section.

 

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