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> The greatest sin is: make baby, you think it is a game?

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VanishS
post Jul 27 2015, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(na12gen @ Jul 27 2015, 03:46 PM)
The world just reached 7 billion people on 12th March 2012.
By the year 2026 we will have 8 billion people living on earth.
Do you know how much damage its going to cost earth?
The pollution and the extinction of animal species because man wants to build his home.

In Malaysia alone, we have already hit the 30 million mark and counting.

Something to ponder...
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Dont worry, either war or technology will prevail and our population will be manageable for the better or for worse.
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post Jul 27 2015, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(han2019 @ Jul 27 2015, 03:46 PM)
That is good case lor, if accidently make a baby like hitler or osama how? you pay ah?
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post Jul 27 2015, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(steadystream @ Jul 27 2015, 03:47 PM)
if all the o2 converter plant and microorganism come to conscious, and they said : heck! what for i keep converting the co2 to o2, no point doing it, then all the living things on earth is going to be wipe out in.. like.. i do not, 3-6 months?
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post Jul 27 2015, 03:49 PM

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post Jul 27 2015, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Jul 27 2015, 03:35 PM)
Realistically, not really. Reason being that good maids don't exist. Good nannies don't exist, because if they were good they would not be nannies. Who is in right mind would want to be a nanny given a choice? So you're stuck with the "foreign talent" who charge crazy amounts of money to do things badly.
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Agreed. Realistically, if both are working, one will have to wind down for the kid cause proper nannies are hard to come by, but then again that's where retired grandparents come in, Ideally.

Yamateonichan also made good point regarding maternity leave, kids getting sick etc. leading to lower productivity. But, I can't agree with letting people with low mentality to go crazy breeding. World will just become a shithole.
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isn't this what Singaporeans said last time? now they're full of old people.
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post Jul 27 2015, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(han2019 @ Jul 27 2015, 02:55 PM)
This is the greatest problem of mankind. I think parents are despicable for bring their kid into this world. They are just selfish people.

Tell me, what is the reason you want to make baby?

People take making baby too lightly, they think they got job got money, get a wife, then can make baby liao.

But guess what? It is not that simple. One mistake when bringing up your kid, the world is fucked up. If you want to make a baby, atleast, for the sake of

mankind, do proper planning. If you dun have 100% confidence it will work, then dun make baby.

I know there many reasons that kids get born into this world. But my point is this, a kid is a blank slate, so innocent, whatever you feed him he is going to become that, just like little Chappie ( love that movie, btw).

That is why I think movie, dramas, etc are so fucked up, they make it look like a simple stuff. Let you see all the happiness when you have baby. But hey people,

FACE the reality la! STOP making babies if you cannot give them a good life. Stop making babies if you are not sure what to do with your life.

Only make baby if you know yourself.

TLDR; Breed, jangan tak breed. tapi Breed wisely lah!
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post Jul 27 2015, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(han2019 @ Jul 27 2015, 03:09 PM)
If I breed, I will make sure I take good care of my kid. If I can't afford whether financially, mentally, I won't. And it seems that many people here don't understand the point that I am trying to make.

I am saying, people should not breed if they don't know what they are doing. And you guys think life is fun for people that comes from a fucked up family? No it is not. Sure, that fucked up kid can kill himself and problem solved. But look at the fucked up people that fucked up our world right now. Think it is fun? Think twice please.
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from your first post, many ppl will take it that you're blaming all the world's fuck-ups on the upbringing of children around world. This shows your immaturity and the fact that you are way not ready to have a kid. you must've mistaken Chappie for a real baby, a nice movie but very flawed perception of a futuristic, self-learning AI. Babies are not machines or robots where you can just copy and paste your "good" traits and personalities over and be "programmed". please do enlighten us on what constitutes a good upbringing or suitable lifestyle for having kid. Unless it would mean raising your child in a secluded cave or an uninhabited island, i would very much love to hear it.

let's just face the fact that we are all mammals and are programmed to breed, whether if it is for the better good or not.
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post Jul 27 2015, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(CcL @ Jul 27 2015, 03:50 PM)
Agreed. Realistically, if both are working, one will have to wind down for the kid cause proper nannies are hard to come by, but then again that's where retired grandparents come in, Ideally.

Yamateonichan also made good point regarding maternity leave, kids getting sick etc. leading to lower productivity. But, I can't agree with letting people with low mentality to go crazy breeding. World will just become a shithole.
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That is why knowledge/education is our saviour. And I think our world is heading to a better place currently because of the Internet. I come from a fucked up family backgroud, if it wasn't for the Internet I woudn't be where I am right now and I am happy with my life now. smile.gif


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post Jul 27 2015, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(SomaCruz89 @ Jul 27 2015, 03:43 PM)
Wizard in the making?
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post Jul 27 2015, 03:58 PM

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the greatest sin in /k is open TS's thread...

second greatest sin is to comment TS's thread....

i'll be damnnn
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post Jul 27 2015, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(vassilius @ Jul 27 2015, 03:46 PM)
u talk like there's zero happiness at all through out the baby's life... if so, the biggest failure is you as their parent.
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Happiness yes,

But how much happiness over sadness or struggle?

like 1 year, how many days u spent vacation, rest, do something you like, almost like 4-6% of the time happy...

it is applied those who has time for enjoyment, those who need to give back to their parent and etc. spend <1% happy

Just like TS said, not ready dont get a baby, ull ruined his/her life 4ever
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post Jul 27 2015, 04:05 PM

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Apa masalah ts?? tak dpt kasih sayang dari mak bapak ker??
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post Jul 27 2015, 04:07 PM

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I hope government can control birthrate based on income.

If combined household income less than 35k, max 1 child. Less than 70k 2 child. 100k 3 child.
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post Jul 27 2015, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(deathbringer @ Jul 27 2015, 03:56 PM)
from your first post, many ppl will take it that you're blaming all the world's fuck-ups on the upbringing of children around world. This shows your immaturity and the fact that you are way not ready to have a kid. you must've mistaken Chappie for a real baby, a nice movie but very flawed perception of a futuristic, self-learning AI. Babies are not machines or robots where you can just copy and paste your "good" traits and personalities over and be "programmed". please do enlighten us on what constitutes a good upbringing or suitable lifestyle for having kid. Unless it would mean raising your child in a secluded cave or an uninhabited island, i would very much love to hear it.

let's just face the fact that we are all mammals and are programmed to breed, whether if it is for the better good or not.
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Yes I am immature and I admit that I am not ready to have a kid. But that doesn't mean that what I wrote doesn't make a single sense at all nor does it mean that it is all bullshit. If anything, the purpose of this post is to provoke thoughts.

And the Chappie part, it is flawed, I am aware of that, but the movie does bring a very good point. And current scientific advance is areas such as neuroscience,etc. has provide us a lot of insight regarding child raising. So yeah, I am optmistic about the future and I believe that knowledge is going to save us.

We are programmed to do all kinds of things but that doesn't mean it is for the best. We can do better and we have been advancing all this while.
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QUOTE(munak991 @ Jul 27 2015, 03:59 PM)
Happiness yes,

But how much happiness over sadness or struggle?

like 1 year, how many days u spent vacation, rest, do something you like, almost like 4-6% of the time happy...

it is applied those who has time for enjoyment, those who need to give back to their parent and etc. spend <1% happy

Just like TS said, not ready dont get a baby, ull ruined his/her life 4ever
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judging by ur argument, better dun give birth d... even if u are ready and financially stable, life is unpredictable. Many events could suddenly happen that will disrupt ur grand plan.

my opinion is, u are too pessimistic. u are afraid to try, to improve, and most important, to give. do not take away ur offspring chances to learn, to live, and to survive.
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post Jul 27 2015, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(weretiger @ Jul 27 2015, 03:58 PM)
the greatest sin in /k is open TS's thread...

second greatest sin is to comment TS's thread....

i'll be damnnn
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I am here to cleanse your sin, my child. Breed wisely or breed no more and your reward shall be in heaven
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post Jul 27 2015, 04:12 PM

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lel kesian, ts punya msg so easy tapi diorang so intense

xpe ts, they argue because they can/are able to raise a kid. and that's a good thing.

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