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AVFAN
post Sep 4 2015, 01:56 AM

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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Sep 4 2015, 01:51 AM)
any high beta oil-shorts to suggest? love to watch them.
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best one is DWTI.

this one is 3x wti inverse.

check the graph! biggrin.gif
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post Sep 4 2015, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 4 2015, 01:56 AM)
best one is DWTI.

this one is 3x wti inverse.

check the graph! biggrin.gif
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guess I m too late for the recovery but thanks. might still go for it....

wow....so fast moving geh? scarry

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post Sep 4 2015, 02:07 AM

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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Sep 4 2015, 02:00 AM)
guess I m too late for the recovery but thanks. might still go for it....
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i went in at 103, then 96.

at 94, i went to watch tv.

now it's 106.

i'll wait and see if it will become grouper by tmrw. tongue.gif

crude does seem to be tracking dow...?


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post Sep 4 2015, 02:11 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 4 2015, 02:07 AM)
i went in at 103, then 96.

at 94, i went to watch tv.

now it's 106.

i'll wait and see if it will become grouper by tmrw. tongue.gif

crude does seem to be tracking dow...?
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yeah, damn fast. I was just thinking when I saw 105, not 107++ !!! wooh !
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post Sep 4 2015, 02:18 AM

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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Sep 4 2015, 02:11 AM)
yeah, damn fast. I was just thinking when I saw 105, not 107++ !!! wooh !
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this fella's recent high was 230. biggrin.gif

if wti close below 46 at 2.30am, it should continue to go down tmrw.

12 min to go...


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post Sep 4 2015, 10:16 AM

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Which USA brokerage firms you guys using?

I am using OptionsXpress. How about you guys?

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post Sep 4 2015, 12:27 PM

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My pending short 47.5 triggered.Hope can break 44 for further down.
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post Sep 4 2015, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 4 2015, 02:18 AM)
this fella's recent high was 230. biggrin.gif

if wti close below 46 at 2.30am, it should continue to go down tmrw.

12 min to go...
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if got others that r not so 'fierce' not so volatile oil inverse do let me know. thanks
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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Sep 4 2015, 12:32 PM)
if got others that r not so 'fierce' not so volatile oil inverse do let me know. thanks
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got...

SCO is 2 x crude inverse. UCO is the opposite.

ERY 3x inverse XLE. ERX is 3 x XLE. this is energy, not crude. this one not my preference as it is not directly correlating to crude price.

there are several others but i stick to DWTI, SCO and ERY as the volumes are high enough.

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post Sep 4 2015, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(Rambo69 @ Sep 4 2015, 12:27 PM)
My pending short 47.5 triggered.Hope can break 44 for further down.
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good chance tonite after jobs report.

good nos., fear of rate hike, $ rises, crude drops.

bad nos., no good feel, dow falls, crude falls.

tongue.gif laugh.gif


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post Sep 4 2015, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 4 2015, 02:23 PM)
good chance tonite after jobs report.

good nos., fear of rate hike, $ rises, crude drops.

bad nos., no good feel, dow falls, crude falls.

tongue.gif  laugh.gif
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i think option 1.... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 4 2015, 01:23 PM)
good chance tonite after jobs report.

good nos., fear of rate hike, $ rises, crude drops.

bad nos., no good feel, dow falls, crude falls.

tongue.gif  laugh.gif
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Good nos and bad nos also drop. rclxms.gif

Technically also bearish after failure to make new high once touched 200 ema on H1. laugh.gif
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post Sep 4 2015, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(Rambo69 @ Sep 4 2015, 02:05 PM)
Good nos and bad nos also drop. rclxms.gif

Technically also bearish after failure to make new high once touched 200 ema on H1. laugh.gif
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actually, that's what i noticed from the last couple of times. biggrin.gif

seems to me people are holding and waiting for the data only to decide whether to sell soft or sell hard! laugh.gif
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post Sep 4 2015, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 4 2015, 02:14 PM)
actually, that's what i noticed from the last couple of times. biggrin.gif

seems to me people are holding and waiting for the data only to decide whether to sell soft or sell hard! laugh.gif
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they change direction, looking at china now.
well they have to look at somewhere, i guess. close eyes they feel too much fear. laugh.gif
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post Sep 4 2015, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 4 2015, 04:12 PM)
they change direction, looking at china now.
well they have to look at somewhere, i guess. close eyes they feel too much fear.  laugh.gif
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ya, china is still spooking everybody.

us markets will probably retreat tonight knowing china market may play havoc for 2 days next week before us markets can react. tongue.gif

djia futures -14x.
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post Sep 4 2015, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 4 2015, 02:14 PM)
actually, that's what i noticed from the last couple of times. biggrin.gif

seems to me people are holding and waiting for the data only to decide whether to sell soft or sell hard! laugh.gif
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...but i'm afraid its could turn the other way round. tongue.gif
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post Sep 4 2015, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(davidcch07 @ Sep 4 2015, 01:48 PM)
i think option 1....  biggrin.gif
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no wor...

#2... tongue.gif

poor jobs report, dow dives, crude dives.

and the russians say:
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/09/04/russia-will...-deputy-pm.html

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 4 2015, 10:35 PM)
no wor...

#2... tongue.gif

poor jobs report, dow dives, crude dives.

and the russians say:
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/09/04/russia-will...-deputy-pm.html
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Then have to wait Oct..
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The market won't let the bulls win - no matter what.

bad job numbers.. .sell
good job numbers.. also sell. tongue.gif
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post Sep 4 2015, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Sep 4 2015, 09:58 PM)
The market won't let the bulls win - no matter what. 

bad job numbers.. .sell
good job numbers.. also sell.      tongue.gif
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1850? biggrin.gif

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