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Investment EKOCHERAS @ JALAN CHERAS (V4) [MRT PROPERTY] [OT], Where Cheras becomes Mont'Jiulai

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post Dec 14 2019, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(New Klang @ Dec 14 2019, 08:41 AM)
Will be interesting

Too many speculators waiting to unload
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If there are many speculators, more foreclosure could be expected.
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post Dec 19 2019, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Dec 19 2019, 02:55 PM)
this is a good project no matter how the finishings or anyone talk bad about the designs and workmanship etc... foreign investors will be coming in by next year... alot potential for this kind of mixed development... better yet freehold at least for value holding...
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IF and how many?

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post Dec 22 2019, 12:11 PM

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Rental is more elastic and often lead indicator of price. 6% rental yield is substantially higher than market average or acceptance; mean subsale price will stabilize at about market average of e.g 3 to 4% rental yield.

If 6% rental yield is widely paid, could expect next auction price to bid well above developers price, developers could demand premium price for any units left and subsale transact at substantially higher than spa price.

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post Dec 22 2019, 10:22 PM

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In current market sentiment of supply>demand; how landlord could beat his neighbours a.k.a competitors to secure tenant? what tactics is effective?

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post Dec 23 2019, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(inthira+0 @ Dec 23 2019, 12:38 PM)
I am new to property. Only 1star here. 😢
Luckily got the opportunity to attend the preview of fingers kung-fu show last time at ekovest office. totally don't know the early bird purchased costs.  My English very poor don't know how to make bookings, living under poverty no money to pay for it also. 😭 Luckily I made few friends who bought few units here and they are in the owners whatsapp group. I know nothing about the rental here anyway.
I also not a master in property, don't know the correct formula of rental yield, don't know LAD used in rental yield, just ignore whichever miscellaneous cost, costs of delay, opportunity losses as so High rental here.
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Jedi master.

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post Dec 23 2019, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(scarypoolparty @ Dec 23 2019, 05:15 PM)
Good on those brave hearters.

Same w ekocheras... only haters are left to lick their wound and do as much damages as they can...

And iwc is moving to bdr malaysia next...

See what else the haters can do.

Organise demonstration at bdr malaysia?
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QUOTE(scarypoolparty @ Dec 23 2019, 05:21 PM)
If we keep silent, then haters win.

If we said something, haters said we are inveators and acted irrationally

If we quoted facts and figures, haters will said not enuf, need to prove with statement

If we gace them the statement, they will want to interveiw the tenants

If we allowed them to interview the tenants, whats next?? They probablg would want to spend overnight witwithb them jor....
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So much of hatred.

there are many points of view and opinion in this world. only those who are passionate, emotional and stressed (e.g financial) would brand different point of view/opinion hater. contemporary history (e.g cbj, gold, btc) showed; the more investors calling different opinions hater, the higher the foreclosure at the place.

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post Dec 24 2019, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(scarypoolparty @ Dec 24 2019, 04:25 PM)
i will believe you wholeheartedly if any of your doom days prediction does come thru.

sadly it never.

and you know why all the experienced taiko taiche already left this forum? not bcos the blood is rising to their knees, its bcos most wannabes here talking nothing but rubbish yet claimed themselves to be pro.....and one phd wannabe.
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napic poorperly overhang is fake news, rising number of foreclosure is fake news, price stagnant/dropping is fake news. Those blinded by greed couldn't see the elephant in the room.

when price of gold, btc, stocks, cash saving dropped; most experienced taiko and taiche in those forums left; similarly for poorperly.

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post Dec 24 2019, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(scarypoolparty @ Dec 24 2019, 04:38 PM)
of all people i thought you should be clever enuf to digest generalised report like that and not use as scare tactics.

how many % of total overhang properties are directly related to high end properties?

how many foreclosures are directly related to the wealth report of 4%?

new launch price per sq never dropped. the only things dropped are perhaps built up size and quality.
but one thing does increase. Number of rooms and toilets
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Number of foreclosure of luxury condo in klcc vicinity speak for itself.

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post Dec 24 2019, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(scarypoolparty @ Dec 24 2019, 04:25 PM)
i will believe you wholeheartedly if any of your doom days prediction does come thru.

sadly it never.

and you know why all the experienced taiko taiche already left this forum? not bcos the blood is rising to their knees, its bcos most wannabes here talking nothing but rubbish yet claimed themselves to be pro.....and one phd wannabe.
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QUOTE(LoTek @ Dec 24 2019, 04:37 PM)
+1
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During bull run be it poorperly, gold, stocks, btc, every punters believe ze is a gold fingers. only after the tide turned could tell who was swimming naked. that's why after bull run has ended, many Taiko and taiche gone quiet or disappeared.

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post Dec 24 2019, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(scarypoolparty @ Dec 24 2019, 10:21 PM)
She copied and paste same sentences for the past 3 or more years.
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You mean i foretold current market situation a few years ago.

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post Dec 24 2019, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(scarypoolparty @ Dec 24 2019, 10:34 PM)
I only knew you didnt make any money from properties and has been plotted a revenge strategies for all those people that make money still from properties.

And the copy and paste statements over and over again.

If yoy tell the same story over and over again, eventually you will believe its true, sadly the world doesnt think so.
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Someone mentioned; tail end of kv property bull run was in 2012. unless was blinded by greed, why one still wanted to jump in after tail end? beside, kv property was not and is still not the only investment option available.

you could have your view on kv property but the reality is vastly different.
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post Dec 24 2019, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(scarypoolparty @ Dec 24 2019, 10:42 PM)
Bad news....

One unit just got rented out for 2400 within a week....

Apparently the haters are not doing enough to dampen the already bad reputation of this place.

Get out there and do something....dun just sit in front of your computer and complaint haven and earth.
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Some said a unit was rented for 1.6k.

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post Dec 24 2019, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(scarypoolparty @ Dec 24 2019, 10:52 PM)
Aiyoyo....wanted to say you are high school student but worried about hurting your feeling

Even at normality of property scene you still can make money, provided careful selection of location and property. Bull run only happened once in your life time...doesnt mean you only buy once in your lifetime. Maybe you did or maybe yoyonuj had missed the opportunity thats why you are so bitter about bull run.

Property boom has past, doesnt mean the doom day is here.....

Mrs doomday.
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There are many property transacted everyday. the question is how many vendor find profit worthwhile? how many units are at preferred location, etc? as said before, property is not the only investment option available.


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post Dec 24 2019, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(scarypoolparty @ Dec 24 2019, 11:10 PM)
Why you need to equal other sellers as yourself???

Other makes money doesnt mean you will benefit.

Other makes losses doesnt mean you have too.

Unless you just follow the herd and too lazy to do yr own due diligent.

If one unit in ekocheras rented out at 1600, do i need to follow straight and beat the rental by 100 and hopefully renting out at 1500?????

You can generalise the market but it doesnt change the fact for one development or one location.

Merry christmas lah Mrs Doomday. Take a day off will you?
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unlike commodities, stocks, forex, btc, etc, property price of the same stock/development could be any where in a normal distribution or bell curve. on one end, one could claim high price and low price on the other end. perceived market value, vendor asking price, valuation and transacted price of a unit could be widely apart.

in rental market, some could claimed to have rented out for 2.4k or even 2.6k but out of how many units available?

on some development where developer still have units unsold; it is not unknown for the developer to team with re agents to quote high subsale price for subsale vendor to follow, while the developer offload their units at lower price (from rebate). similarly, some smart landlords could purposely claimed to have rented out at high price (e.g $2.4k) and hope naive landlords to follow so they could themselves rent out soon e.g at $2.2k. many novice landlords don't realize by demanding for high rental e.g $2.4k and leaving it idling for over a month, higher rental ($2.4k) couldn't recover cheaper rental loss ($2.2k).

property market is a dog eat dog world. those blinded by greed could believe whatever they want but the reality could be vastly different. that's why many taikor and taiche have disappeared.

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post Dec 25 2019, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(W.ROOK @ Dec 25 2019, 12:39 PM)
So its sold at RM495K. but did someone said that the fair approx price should be RM350K? laugh.gif

If this priced at RM350K than Aster should be in the 200+K and Maxim Residency should dip below than 200K too  brows.gif
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During property bull run, if price could rise exorbitantly higher than long term trend will similarly in turbulence time could drop lower than long term trend.

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post Dec 25 2019, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(scarypoolparty @ Dec 25 2019, 09:55 PM)
If owners willing to take a chance on mainlanders, they can pay 2300 to 2800, pending on furnishing.

Only the kiamsiap locals wanting 1800 to 2100. Summore having 3 to 4 persons squeeze into one bedder.....

Really no eye see....
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More hotpot restaurant will open at the mall?
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post Jan 7 2020, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(LTG @ Jan 7 2020, 08:45 PM)
developer going convert 100 unsold unit to airbnb , with existing more than 50 Airbnb unit..  hard to survive during low season.  maybe after CNY can see rm 70 /night
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Sure or not? how many units unsold? if spread fake news will get bombard by owners here.

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post Jan 8 2020, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(LTG @ Jan 8 2020, 12:22 PM)
operator won't die just owner will complaint income not as expected , most owner expect Airbnb income can cover their installment
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Airbnb average room rate is cheaper than equivalent hotel room but capex is higher and occupancy rate is not higher. It doesn't make business sense to operate Airbnb in most places.

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post Jan 10 2020, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jan 10 2020, 09:24 AM)
hence why i say with enough units under your care... for single owner doing 1 unit airbnb... nah... no meat eat... in fact dont waste time with airbnb... thats why so many operators in the market do for owners... because of the supplies...  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Airbnb service provider and owner are different entity.
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post Jan 10 2020, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(mana mungkin @ Jan 10 2020, 03:06 PM)
user posted image

great night view from top
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Beside angle i.e point of view, how difference from other high-rise?

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