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yetieater
post Nov 26 2006, 11:47 PM

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Under Windows XP SP2, you'll have to simply install a printer driver to use the printer. If it's a network printer things should be easier. Mac OS X is pretty friendly with its included batch of drivers.
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post Nov 27 2006, 12:07 AM

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My Macbook alr has all the drivers necessary for any printer in OSX when i bought it. Just let the dealer know what printer you will be using, usually everything is in, my dealer just told me where to delete the ones that I dont need, IF i need more space that is..
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post Nov 27 2006, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(civic98 @ Nov 23 2006, 06:44 PM)
Apple and Dell is just not comparable, ppl buy Apple for its quality and design, and the only reason ppl buy Dell? CHEAP...
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People buy Apple for it's design, maybe, if you are talking of design, you should check out the Sony Vaio's, much better than any Apple laptops, of course, not all the Vaio models, heck, even these days companies are starting to come out with beautiful looking laptops, in US you have Alienware and that sort of thing, anytime better than any Apple laptop design.

Quality, those days are fading slowly....I had problems with my PowerBook, iBook's have mediocre build quality, MacBooks and MacBook Pro's have tonnes of quality problems, probably so many never seen in a particular model of a product, check out http://www.appledefects.com/ and http://www.appledefects.com/wiki or http://www.appledefects.com/wiki/index.php?title=MacBook_Pro or http://www.appledefects.com/wiki/index.php?title=MacBook





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post Nov 27 2006, 02:12 PM

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Macbook Core 2 Duo is value (in the mac world). that's my next purchase.. up yours vista. Problem is, why isn't there education discount? That sucks big time.

civic98, i have to disagree with you. Dell is not cheap. Dell is affordable. Dell has uber service and support which is unparalleled. The likes of Fujitsu, HP/Compaq can't even come close. I speak from experience.

I am curious however, as to Apple's warranty policy. anybody with experience on the Macbook?
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QUOTE(n20nine @ Nov 27 2006, 12:53 PM)
People buy Apple for it's design, maybe, if you are talking of design, you should check out the Sony Vaio's, much better than any Apple laptops, of course, not all the Vaio models, heck, even these days companies are starting to come out with beautiful looking laptops, in US you have Alienware and that sort of thing, anytime better than any Apple laptop design.

Quality, those days are fading slowly....I had problems with my PowerBook, iBook's have mediocre build quality, MacBooks and MacBook Pro's have tonnes of quality problems, probably so many never seen in a particular model of a product, check out http://www.appledefects.com/ and http://www.appledefects.com/wiki or http://www.appledefects.com/wiki/index.php?title=MacBook_Pro or http://www.appledefects.com/wiki/index.php?title=MacBook
Friend, I'm not sure you read properly or not, I said Apple and DELL are not comparable, didnt mention anything about Sony or Alienware. 110% sure Apple's design is better than Dell's! Didnt even mention Apple's design is better compared to Sony or Alienware. I'm well aware of Sony's designs and its PRICE also ok but it was never in the context if you dont realise that alr.

Every product is subjected to defects, so? Manufacturers, ALL manufacturers learn from mistakes and improve on its products as and when defects are detected. If you are going to start another notebok comparison between Apple & any other brand, I'm sorry, its not my expertise, and I dont work for Apple.

FYI: http://www.asq.org/quality-report/reports/20060815.html#what

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Dell's gain this quarter lifted it past rival Hewlett-Packard in terms of quality as perceived by customers. However, Dell still trails the quality leader in the personal computer industry-Apple-by a significant margin.

Apple's strong sales of Macintosh computers boosted profit 48% in the quarter ended July 1. This occurred while Apple completed the transition of its personal computers to microprocessors made by Intel-a major change made without any apparent quality glitches.
And this: http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/061016/nym167.html?.v=64

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The Report calculated the following "Reliability Scores" for each computer vendor based on the percentage difference between their overall U.S. market share and the percentage of calls into the RESCUECOM call center about the particular computer vendor. The higher the score, the less likely it was that calls about the specific computer vendor to the RESCUECOM call center were received (scores are in parentheses).

    * IBM/Lenovo (243)
    * Apple (201)
    * HP/Compaq (12)
    * Dell (4)
    * Gateway (-12)
    * Others (-16)
QUOTE(Jason @ Nov 27 2006, 02:12 PM)
civic98, i have to disagree with you. Dell is not cheap. Dell is affordable. Dell has uber service and support which is unparalleled. The likes of Fujitsu, HP/Compaq can't even come close. I speak from experience.
Dude, cheap / affordable / value for money / lower price etc is the same lar, what is there not to agree with? Dell's prices are obviously lower than most brands ok? Tell me you dont agree to this! I mentioned this many times but ppl seems to forget that Dell make up for its quality by providing better customer service, I'm not saying its a bad thing, but its nothing to shout about. You just cant compare quality and service in the same category, yes perhaps Dell will score in service level, but quality? I doubt it will compared to other brands.

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Alienware is owned by Dell. :|
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QUOTE(X.E.D @ Nov 27 2006, 03:54 PM)
Alienware is owned by Dell. :|
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Sad Case. Now dell using alienware's expertise, not original idea. sad.gif
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QUOTE(jy14 @ Nov 28 2006, 03:03 AM)
Sad Case. Now dell using alienware's expertise, not original idea.  sad.gif
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And what exactly were the "original ideas" contributed by Alienware?

They just put together off-the-shelf parts in a custom case with an overclock.

Hardly cutting-edge technology. And only appealing to noobs with an inability to DIY.
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Dell dont even have their own R&D, they just click and attach things together. And what have they learned from Alienware?

At least Proton got suspension expertise from Lotus.
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haha...first Windows vs. Mac OS, now Apple vs. Dell vs. Alienware...ok i guess we shall stop now. So, anyone got their hands on the c2d macbook?
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QUOTE(civic98 @ Nov 27 2006, 02:50 PM)
Dude, cheap / affordable / value for money / lower price etc is the same lar, what is there not to agree with? Dell's prices are obviously lower than most brands ok? Tell me you dont agree to this! I mentioned this many times but ppl seems to forget that Dell make up for its quality by providing better customer service, I'm not saying its a bad thing, but its nothing to shout about. You just cant compare quality and service in the same category, yes perhaps Dell will score in service level, but quality? I doubt it will compared to other brands.
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i never said it was good quality. rclxms.gif but i'll say that it is average and it has its flaws. and going back to Macbook, how's Apple's service & support like?
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QUOTE(n20nine @ Nov 28 2006, 09:44 AM)
haha...first Windows vs. Mac OS, now Apple vs. Dell vs. Alienware...ok i guess we shall stop now. So, anyone got their hands on the c2d macbook?
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having one set soon. but not mine biggrin.gif
helping fren to get it.
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post Nov 28 2006, 10:51 AM

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wei : well, play with it and test it out before handing it over to your friend rclxms.gif the smell of a new hardware is nice...just love to hold anything new i buy near my nose and smell it biggrin.gif

well, service and support, i had an unpleasant experience so far. the toll free guy was useless, barely able to speak proper english and did not understand what i was trying to say, no helpful at all. resorted to CG Computers, my local dealer. They were terrible at first. Promises unkept, not bothered, tidak apa attitude, until one day i got so pissed and emailed the owner telling him i am complaining to Apple HQ, then only my problem was given proper attention too. They were biased at times, but can't blame them as most of them there at that time were part-timers without any training (one of my friend is a part-timer and he says that CG does not provide training). But I guess things have changed these days. Nowadays, I see people there with lotsa knowledge and with the proper attitude and always willing to help. Hope this continues. MacAsia at Ikano PowerCentre, have horrible customer relations, they just don't bother as though you are invisible to them. The Apple shop at MidValley is OK. This is what I can give based on my personal experience. Others may have different experience probably due to being attended by different people.

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post Nov 28 2006, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Nov 28 2006, 10:40 AM)
i never said it was good quality. rclxms.gif but i'll say that it is average and it has its flaws. and going back to Macbook, how's Apple's service & support like?
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Hmm.. No experience with them yet, happy to say nothing has gone wrong till i need their support. And hope it remains that way rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(n20nine @ Nov 28 2006, 10:51 AM)
MacAsia at Ikano PowerCentre, have horrible customer relations, they just don't bother as though you are invisible to them.
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i second that.
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The apple center at Ikano belongs to MacStudio....Macasia branches are located at 1U, BSC, Pyramid and Great Eastern Mall...
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post Nov 28 2006, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(n20nine @ Nov 28 2006, 10:51 AM)
wei : well, play with it and test it out before handing it over to your friend  rclxms.gif the smell of a new hardware is nice...just love to hold anything new i buy near my nose and smell it  biggrin.gif
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cannot dude, friend demanded to be delivered untouched sad.gif
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QUOTE(n20nine @ Nov 28 2006, 10:51 AM)
MacAsia at Ikano PowerCentre, have horrible customer relations, they just don't bother as though you are invisible to them. The Apple shop at MidValley is OK.
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i angkat kaki to agree as well....
ikano's apple shop sucks big time..the employees there will be busy playing with the mac instead of trying to help customers..

sent my ipod for warranty at the apple shop at midvalley..service was satisfactory..
been to the apple shop in the curve...the guy was very informative and was very helpful... thumbs up for apple shop in the curve... thumbup.gif
1U was satisfactory as well.. haha

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post Nov 28 2006, 03:27 PM

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FYI, the store in Ikano is NOT macasia. they are Mac Studio, same chain that open ipod station & LowYat apple reseller. And 2nd thing, the store in Ikano no longer listed as Apple Center. They're just an IT store that carry apple products now.
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QUOTE(civic98 @ Nov 27 2006, 02:50 PM)
Dude, cheap / affordable / value for money / lower price etc is the same lar, what is there not to agree with? Dell's prices are obviously lower than most brands ok? Tell me you dont agree to this! I mentioned this many times but ppl seems to forget that Dell make up for its quality by providing better customer service, I'm not saying its a bad thing, but its nothing to shout about. You just cant compare quality and service in the same category, yes perhaps Dell will score in service level, but quality? I doubt it will compared to other brands.
Civic, it's not so much an issue with the dictionary definition of the words, more one with the connotation. If a friend calls you cheap, you're likely to take offense. It is, however, perfectly acceptable to call someone thrifty or shrewd with money management.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that Dell manufactures and sells low quality products. I haven't had a single bad experience with them. Yes, it's seen as more of an affordable computer brand that anyone can pick up, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.

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