I really don't think it's a necessary jump right now, especially for owners of the 'old' MacBook. Once more applications start taking full advantage of UB there may be more of a need to upgrade. Yes, the C2D does offer some performance gains in some testing suites (Photoshop!), but I don't think the real-world gains are enough to justify getting rid of the old MB.

lokgotz, be happy with your dandruff-in-the-keyboard MacBook Besides, who knows.. Perhaps we'll even see the advent of quad-core in the MB and MBP by summer 2007.

hey, stop bringing my dandruff to this thread! heheheh

in my opinion, i guess the only thing that slows down the old macbook are the software that needs to run via Rosetta.....when all major apps like MS office and Adobe CS uses UB, then i think it should be faster....then bump the ram up to the 2gb max, everything should be on par with the newer macbooks....

Gonna keep my 2.0ghz, 512mb, white macbook for a while now...hehehe.....at least 3 years i think...

Don't mean to sound like a Dell / Wintel fanboy, but they've just released teh Rm 2999 Core 2 Duo 15.4" widescreen mainstream laptop! www.dell.com.my for details. Up the RAM to 2gb (standard 1gb), DVD burn and get that 7300 nvidia card option and you got one leet machine, for about rm 4k.

You can tell that over and over again, but no one here will care and will compare their Macs with Windows laptop, if you go and tell this in Windows forums, maybe people there will became like this -->> but in Apple Bytes, if you talk about Windows laptop, they will go like this -->>

Cheers

At the very least, compare to a Vaio.

Dell?

That's the Proton Saga of the laptop world. You're comparing Apples and Lemons.

Yeah u r right! There is no way a WINDOWS operated DELL laptop can compare with a MACOSX driven Macbook or MAcbook Pro!

I love my MBP!

any news on how much will be the new macbook be sold here??

i'm more curious on how the old macbooks will be priced.

The MacBook C2D will be priced as listed here:
1.83Ghz White RM4399
2.0Ghz White RM5299
2.0Ghz Black RM5999

i'm getting the white 2.0Ghz

the specs and price as follows
13-inch : White
1.83GHz
RM4,399

13.3-inch widescreen display
1280 x 800 resolution
1.83GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
512MB memory (2x256MB)
60GB 5400-rpm Serial ATA hard drive
Combo drive (DVD-ROM, CD-RW)

13-inch : White
2.0GHz
RM5,299

13.3-inch widescreen display
1280 x 800 resolution
2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
1GB memory (2x512MB)
80GB 5400-rpm Serial ATA hard drive
Double-layer SuperDrive (DVD±RW, CD-RW)


13-inch : Black
2.0GHz
RM5,999

13.3-inch widescreen display
1280 x 800 resolution
2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
1GB memory (2x512MB)
120GB 5400-rpm Serial ATA hard drive
Double-layer SuperDrive (DVD±RW, CD-RW)

wicked..even more reasons to get one....

Walao, same price as previous Core Duo version.

i think when the c2d comes out, the core duo wont be selling anymore lah....

Sometimes Apple just wasted lot's of it's productivity.

Sell CD macbook cheaper ... if not return those macbook to factory to upgrade owh, perhaps ... not exactly wasted right?

Really??? Is the difference THAT GREAT??? No doubt, I must say the Apple remote, FrontRow, iSight and Mac OS X are all great. I love them.

But is the Dell a Proton Saga equivalent? Pop up the hood, and they're running the same engine, just a different shell! No one buys a computer to look good. Guys buy their chains and bling, gals get their diamond rings. We buy a computer for productivity, not looks!!!

Photoshop CS on Emulation mode runs filters in lets say 5 minutes. The Dell running Win XP natively can pawn it in 3-4 minutes! OK, lets say PS optimised on Intel Mac is released... Still.. i think the times will be the in the ballpark, if not similar.

Many graphic pros are making the shift to cheaper PC hardware... Apple is overcharging for "looks" and supposed, alleged "Stability!" haha....

I think that's an over-statement!

Congrats on your MBP. I'll just install a hacked version of 10.5 when its released on my 17" dell laptop with 2gb ram and a 7400 gfx... Sure, it won't beat your MBP, but i'm saving thousands of ringgit Maybe for an extra 24" Dell widescreen as my 2nd monitor!

Damn, I'm now a dell-fanboy!


Same. Apple Malaysia never lower their price to their market value. They overcharge. Just like Apple!


You're right. They'll give to their employees.

Nope, they don't return to Apple to 'upgrade' it.. its too costly. They'll just send to 3rd world countries where MacbOOk has " just been released " and their local community aren't updated about the real situation...

Perhaps this occurs in Malaysia too, to a lesser extent. Meaning, Apple stores will keep charging us list price even though new models are OUT! Idiots.

Fan-boyism is not my type.. but...

DELL PAWNS JOO MAC BOOK PROZ!!!!

RM 7,364.00 gets you...




MBP at RM 10,800 gets you:

. 2.33GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
. 1680 x 1050 pixels
. 2GB memory
. 160GB hard drive1
. 8x double-layer SuperDrive
. ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 graphics with 256MB SDRAM

Sweet.... Ok, the monitor is slightly higher resolution, the hard disk is 40 GB bigger, no GigE ethernet, no MagSafe, my 2GHz dell processor is 15% slower than your 2.33GHz MBP 17", there's iSight, iRemote, but my Dell's 256MB NVIDIA® GeForce® Go 7900 GS pawns the x1600 kaw-kaw... gaming bliss!!!

Oh, there's a rm 3,500 disparity.. Hmm... what can I do with that money? How about an extra 24" LCD for my home.. dual screen... Or maybe install OS X 10.5 on it... then... hmm... get a higher 1900 x 1200 resolution screen for the 17" laptop?

Decisions decisions.

If u like the Dell, go buy it . Understand that some value ringgit to function ratio over 'the cool factor'.

I'm not sure whether I fall into Apple fanboy category. I am not a computer nerd and I hate computer before this. Had a Dell before and after I switched to Mac, I find out that using computer is really an ejoyable thing to do. And a Mac does that

Windows based PC will never on par with Mac OS

but then,both cater different category of people. You want to do multimedia editing,such as videos,pictures, Mac OS will suit your taste while you want gaming, go for Windows based.

i thought windows will suit me for multimedia,after using Photoshop CS2 on windows and Mac OS, i will say Mac OS is the best editing tool for me because of the mouse sensitivity...arrgghh..you will never understand it unless you do it by yourself...

Dell will adopt Mac OS soon...good move Michael Dell

I am using Windows XP now. I can cut movies using Adobe Premier. I can edit pictures using Adobe Photoshop CS2 and Google's Picasa (my favourite). Er... what's the advantages of using Mac OS X again??

Don't get me started on gaming...

Err... mouse sensitivity? Get a RM 99 gaming mouse, those that they use in Cybercafes. Yeah, those are uber sensitive. Its called the Razer or something. And Mac have better sensitivity will CONVINCE you to get something twice as expensive? god dammit. I want YOU to be my CUSTOMER in the future!! SO easy to con!!

And you think Steve Jobs will bend over and let Michael Dell f* him? Hahahaha.... That would be SOOOOOO wrong!

I think what's gonna happen is that in 5 years time Mac OS X will be gone, forever. There will be no more future upgrades. Since all the Macs then would be running on Intel, basically, Apple will be running Windows Vista underpinnings but provide a "mod" to make it feel like the Mac. So essentially, you can have FrontRow.exe and iLife.exe but everything will be running on Windows Vista.

This theory was predicted by John C. Dvorak. Everyone thought he was crazy when he said this, but as iSight and the latest BootCamp shifts to all Windows compatible, it looks like Cupertino's hardware will be running on Windows Vista for good.

Apple will be a solely hardware company, but they'll be competing with Dell and Gateway for the hardware sales. Gateway and Dell will be coming with their own "pre-installed crapware" but Apple will ship a Mac OS X theme on top of Vista to make the whole experience like a Mac. Microsoft gets a share of the sales (as royalty) or even APPLE will sell Vista by default... so Uncle Bill will become richer and richer.

That's Steve Job's 10-year masterplan.

baby k, u know what would be the ultimate test???

We both are given Rob-B-Hood "original" DVD... with a fresh install of OS X 10.4.8 and Windows XP SP 2 default. Nothing else. Same hardware config (MBP v Dell laptop)

We are both given an internet connection only.

We suppose to convert the DVD to XVID... see which machine will "get started" faster.... I doubt iMovie has this feature, so we both need 3rd party apps. See who's the REAL video editing KING! If you wanna play tough, you can always bring out for Final Cut Pro while I shove out my Adobe Premier. Add titles, effects, transitions, BRING IT ON!!!

Next test, Photochop and Photo-editing.

Install Photoshop CS2 on both machines. PC uses Picasa, Mac uses iFoto for organisation We are given a DVD of 100 high resolution 2048x1024 photos. We are to put it on the internet in the fastest possible time.

On 10 of the photo, its very ugly and we need Photoshop to edit it. Graphic designers will then use Photoshop to edit it. See which platform / O.S. is faster.

Ok, I don't have the results, but I can assure you that Picasa will pawn iPhoto.... and that Photoshop CS 2 on the PC / Windows is much more efficient than the eye-candy Macintosh OS X.

Maybe anandtech or Toms Hardware Guide should do these independent tests and see who is the real champ.

I worship Apple for their hardware prowess, I must admit. I just got a 5.5th generation iPod video, and love it to bits. But for Operating System supremacy, I still thing Windows XP is much much better.

When it all comes down to it, everyone has their own preference lah, some like latte, some decaf, some mocha. Thank God we have the right to choose. But don't rely on the Mac system for long. Soon enough, we'll all be on Vista (and future Microsoft releases) while Stevie J and Billy G both play golf and enjoy their happy retirement years while their minions continue what they've both started. Only now, both Apple and Microsoft will work in symphony.