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 【Micro Four Thirds】Olympus & Panasonic Thread V7, Stay tuned for m4/3 news in Photokina!

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post Jul 26 2016, 10:01 AM

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Hi guys! I want to let go my Panny 25/1.7 as I made a mistake of not checking the mechanics of the lens when I got it from Taobao bought as a USED second-hand item. bangwall.gif ranting.gif

The issue: EVERYTHING works 100% perfectly EXCEPT THE FOCUSING RING. No effect at all when focusing ring is turned, after camera is set to MF, neither Focus Assist (magnified view) nor the on-screen distance scale pops up.

Everything else is flawless, AF works 100% perfectly, no fault there. Lens very very clean, body very very clean like new.

Package: Lens + front & rear lens caps only.

I have checked with Panasonic Malaysia and they are asking RM80 for the service and repair and if any parts required to be replaced that will be extra. I ordered this lens just to see and feel if I like the focal length and size and disappointed to say I am not all liking the size. The IQ however, is quite close to the Panny 20/1.7, better than the 14/2.5 definitely. However, the AF speed is top-notch, ultra-fast and accurate. thumbup.gif

So if you want a cheap and fast prime lens and use only AF in your shooting, this may be for you. I am putting up here for 3 days only and if no response I will put up elsewhere.

I am asking only RM585 inclusive of postage. PM or whatsapp 014-3517051 to deal. Thanks for your attention.


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post Jul 26 2016, 10:29 AM

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The full story is that now pro or low end is no longer represented by GX/GH vs G/GM/GF, but the number of digits, exactly like Canon and Nikon (which allows Canon and Nikon users to immediately make sense of the system). So a GX9000, which will be a "GF9", will not have an EVF.

So single digit cameras sure has EVF, 4 digit cameras probably don't have EVF.

It is very obvious that GF series doesn't make much money to them as compared to GH and GX. The new GX80/85 is surprisingly quite a success, maybe due to its stabilized 4k video at a very compact size. Panasonic is doing more marketing work for this camera esp in the Europe, you can see a lot more reviews on this camera than previous models.

Nothing is ditched and more choices will be available with new naming system. For example it is now possible to have a high end G camera, a G8, exactly a high end "GX8" with features such as huge EVF, weather-sealed and dual-IS but in SLR form factor. I will love that camera as I always hate to pay a premium price for the video features in the GH lineup which I never use. I have previously shoot with GH3 and GH4. So G series can now have at least 2 cameras G8 and maybe G800 (to replace the G7, no IBIS, no weather sealing). GX900 and GX9000 can be added to replace GM5 and GF8.

I can see of 7 different cameras (GX x4, G x2, GH x1). The new naming allows more flexibility. Nikon only needs one D series. It doesn't even need to use "mark II" or "mark IV".
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I understand the new naming lah and I would argue there would not be a "GF9" equivalent under the new scheme.

Current system

GH - Video-centric.
G - SLR form factor.
GX - RF form factor
GM - Smallest possible form factor. Premium body.
GF - Entry level

Back in 2009 thereabout, Panny's original lineup consist of no entry level model. Remember that even the GF1 was enthusiast orientated and full metal body.

Then Olympus came out with the super cost-down E-PL1 and Panasonic's response was to dumb down the GF series... and there was the time where Panasonic and Sony was racing to the bottom spamming models of GF's and NEX every few months.

Someone must've noticed their bottom line to make them launch the GX... GX1 being aimed at the enthusiast where the GF1 left off.

Panny tried again with the GM1 and GM5... using premium metal body and claiming smallest ILC in the world (previously used to market the GF) but GM1 was a mess due to overlapping feature set with the GF while the GM5 ended up in a higher price point than it could support.

Your GF9 being a GX9000 wouldve been fine when the ILC market was hot... and to fight market shares.

But Sony no longer pumping out cheap NEXs, Olympus dumped the entry level so IMHO, it doesn't sense for Panny to kill the GF "brand" and then continue the same money bleeding formula to dilute the GX "brand" that were created to fix the former anyways.

Surely there'll be a more entry version of the GX85 but I'm afraid it won't be "entry" like the GF.

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Let's wait for Panasonic official presentation to introduce their line-up like many years ago laugh.gif

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jul 26 2016, 10:29 AM)
I understand the new naming lah and I would argue there would not be a "GF9" equivalent under the new scheme.

Current system

GH - Video-centric.
G  - SLR form factor.
GX - RF form factor
GM - Smallest possible form factor. Premium body.
GF  - Entry level

Back in 2009 thereabout, Panny's original lineup consist of no entry level model. Remember that even the GF1 was enthusiast orientated and full metal body.

Then Olympus came out with the super cost-down E-PL1 and Panasonic's response was to dumb down the GF series... and there was the time where Panasonic and Sony was racing to the bottom spamming models of GF's and NEX every few months.

Someone must've noticed their bottom line to make them launch the GX... GX1 being aimed at the enthusiast where the GF1 left off.

Panny tried again with the GM1 and GM5... using premium metal body and claiming smallest ILC in the world (previously used to market the GF) but GM1 was a mess due to overlapping feature set with the GF while the GM5 ended up in a higher price point than it could support.

Your GF9 being a GX9000 wouldve been fine when the ILC market was hot... and to fight market shares.

But Sony no longer pumping out cheap NEXs, Olympus dumped the entry level so IMHO, it doesn't sense for Panny to kill the GF "brand" and then continue the same money bleeding formula to dilute the GX "brand" that were created to fix the former anyways.

Surely there'll be a more entry version of the GX85 but I'm afraid it won't be "entry" like the GF.
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That sounds even better if there is less "lower end" model so we can see more enthusiastic products. Haha. But I guess there will be at least one lower model than the GX80. Maybe they will merge the GM and GF and keep one just for "low end" sake. Or maybe they will let GX85 price drop enough to become low end. Too many uncertainties to guess right now but I believe we will see something better. If they have not change their direction, we won't see 2 GX cameras at the same time (GX8 and GX85) as only 1 can exist at 1 time if using the old direction.

I also figure out a problem with the new naming convention, after GX9, what will be the next? GX10? That would be 2 digits. bangwall.gif

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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Jul 26 2016, 12:08 PM)
Let's wait for Panasonic official presentation to introduce their line-up like many years ago  laugh.gif

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Haha, they seems to produce everything (with addition to GX and GM) to experiment and test water. Hopefully now they can figure out from their experiment what is working and what is now and focus fire on it.
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What's the second hand price of Pana Lumix GM-1 can fetch now? I'm thinking of letting go mine soon..
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Got this from dpreview

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post Jul 26 2016, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jul 26 2016, 03:00 PM)
Got this from dpreview

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This one lagi pening rclxub.gif so many models ha ha doh.gif
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QUOTE(bobds78 @ Jul 26 2016, 04:46 PM)
This one lagi pening rclxub.gif so many models ha ha doh.gif
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Haha wait until they have GX9100 and GX9200.
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QUOTE(samsungfreak @ Jul 26 2016, 08:53 PM)
Haha wait until they have GX9100 and GX9200.
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Hey guys, in case you want a free copy of DxO Optics Pro 9 Elite (german rclxub.gif) here's the link: DxO Optics Pro 9 free

The free version is offered until 31st August 2016 only so hurry up guys!

Enjoy!

Thanks BOTAK_WAI for mentioning the ahem ahem version 11xxx otherwise I wouldn't have found this rclxms.gif


Lots of rclxub.gif lately ha ha biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(bobds78 @ Jul 27 2016, 10:02 AM)
Hey guys, in case you want a free copy of DxO Optics Pro 9 Elite (german rclxub.gif) here's the link: DxO Optics Pro 9 free

The free version is offered until 31st August 2016 only so hurry up guys!

Enjoy!

Thanks BOTAK_WAI for mentioning the ahem ahem version 11xxx otherwise I wouldn't have found this rclxms.gif
Lots of  rclxub.gif  lately ha ha biggrin.gif
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Pro 9/10/11 doesn't different much, just they improve their Prime noise reduction algorithm.

didn't use this frequently because i am still more comfortable with the ACR workflow. biggrin.gif

but their lens correction profile and noise reduction really kick ass. thumbup.gif

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any olympus omd em10 mark ii user here? izit it is a good camera? any deadly disadvantage on this camera? why like many ppl buy m4/3 camera they usually will choose panasonic? (from comment alot panasonic user)
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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Jul 27 2016, 10:58 AM)
who wants the latest Pro 11 ahem ahem edition can pm me for link brows.gif

Pro 9/10/11 doesn't different much, just they improve their Prime noise reduction algorithm.

didn't use this frequently because i am still more comfortable with the ACR workflow. biggrin.gif

but their lens correction profile and noise reduction really kick ass. thumbup.gif
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I have tried the version 10 and it allows 30 days free trial full functions given, the first thing that the software does automatically is to correct the distortion if any and exposure, so that right away you see the difference, very nice feature.
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QUOTE(bobds78 @ Jul 27 2016, 11:28 AM)
I have tried the version 10 and it allows 30 days free trial full functions given, the first thing that the software does automatically is to correct the distortion if any and exposure, so that right away you see the difference, very nice feature.
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the caveat is one must connect to the internet for first time use to enable the program detect the camera and lens used and automatically download the profiles (they call it optic modules something like that).

i like the way they correct distortion. just wonder how they fix your 12-32mm plus wide angle converter? any comparison with ooc jpeg?
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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Jul 27 2016, 11:42 AM)
the caveat is one must connect to the internet for first time use to enable the program detect the camera and lens used and automatically download the profiles (they call it optic modules something like that).

i like the way they correct distortion. just wonder how they fix your 12-32mm plus wide angle converter? any comparison with ooc jpeg?
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That's what I want to try but have couldn't find the time yet, I will load a few this afternoon and see.
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(FT5) Confirmed by trusted sources: E-M1II has 4K, and improved Truepic and AF system

more info: http://www.43rumors.com/ft5-confirmed-trus...epic-af-system/
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QUOTE(Kilohertz @ Jul 26 2016, 02:38 PM)
What's the second hand price of Pana Lumix GM-1 can fetch now? I'm thinking of letting go mine soon..
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below 1k since the new 1 only 1.2k something.

for gm-1 perhaps u should sell the lens and body separately.
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QUOTE(hellevil94 @ Jul 27 2016, 11:10 AM)
any olympus omd em10 mark ii user here? izit it is a good camera?  any deadly disadvantage on this camera?  why like many ppl buy m4/3 camera they usually will choose panasonic? (from comment alot panasonic user)
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em10 ii good
cons video & no firmware update like EM1
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QUOTE(mave222 @ Jul 27 2016, 12:24 PM)
em10 ii good
cons video & no firmware update like EM1
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No firmware update XoX!? That kinda sadddddddddddd

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