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TStreblecase
post Jul 6 2015, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(Ayer @ Jul 6 2015, 10:48 PM)
Reason why a phone can never overtake a DSLR, like i hinted before many a times, is a matter of professionals vs casuals. Right now way i see it you are standing up as a casual user, failing to oversee things from a much broader perspective. When you imply that DSLRs and other professional gears will become redundant, you're being dismissive as hell. We're talking an entire industry here, people who not just take it up as a hobby, but as a serious profession.

Compacts and full-fledged photography gears (like DSLR) are different entities, compacts can still be considered as casual device, despite being a single purpose-built gadget.

Oh and i feel like i should tell you that im no professional photographer, im just a person who provides his input on this whole situation.
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Alright, fair points taken. I have never suggested a camera phone, no matter the brand, could replace the DSLR in the professional field (people who makes a living from it not casual photographers who just wanna have the best of everything thinking they'll be as good as the pros too). Nor have I suggested that a camera phone could ever replace the gear a hobbyist have at the moment. The purist as I have mentioned before. Sadly, the purist can never overtake the number of casual photographers (term used loosely here). And market force dictates that a DSLR will once again be a niche market.

Love them or loathe them, Apple has actually presented to the GENERAL public that, yes, it's ok to ditch your DSLR, it's ok to ditch your hybrids, it's completely ok to throw your compacts. Buy our phones, you will be perceived as having a pro quality camera JUST like a DSLR ad that suggest yes, you a nerd with apathy in photo skill can be like a pro too!
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post Jul 6 2015, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jul 6 2015, 09:40 PM)
So, you have just confirmed the worst fear of DSLR fanboys. It's possible for a phone to match a DSLR.  tongue.gif  a bit more effort but it's possible.  whistling.gif
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Yes, not only just possible. The result its just infront of you.
IT IS PROVEN

http://www.apple.com/iphone/world-gallery/...-kwg-iphone-com

ITS HERE!
photography is all about skill not gear!

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post Jul 6 2015, 11:05 PM

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This is an interesting vid. Compares Iphone to standalone cameras.


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post Jul 6 2015, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(chinteck79 @ Jul 6 2015, 10:27 PM)
To make such bold statement either u r a lousy photographer with dslr or u never use a dslr before. At the end of the day its the man behind the lens that matters.

To take those wonderful shots with iphone on billboards are famous photographer who know exactly what is the strength of the camera and take the shot. They didnt use it to take pictures that show weakness of a camera phone like potraits, extra wide landscape, moving subjects or dark environment. These photographers can squeeze out 100% potential out of the device they have. Try search youtube for "pro photog with cheap camera" by Digitalrev.

There are many dslr users who are just lousy. Shooting in auto mode might as well use compact cam or phone. But you can't generalize all dslr users like that.

It all depends on what you want. U want portability and simple to use then camera phone. U want high quality picture in high res then dslr. If u just want to  selfie, instagram or fb the photo, iphone is good enough to view on portable device. If u want to pixel peep or bokeh then dslr. There is market for both segment. Iphone can never replace dslr but replace compact camera is a true fact. Mirrorless taking over dslr market share is also very true as well but will not replace totally.

At the end of the day, the best camera is the camera that is with u when u wAnt to take that shot
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ok, so now u go vacation instead of bringing a smartphone like the 6 plus, or the s6, which can do pretty much everything above average

you bring a DSLR, because it is the best in capturing picture,
and you also bring along a satellite phone because it has the best signal,
also a military precision GPS because it has the best accuracy that is within 2 meters
you also bring along a desktop right, because then you can book flight and plan your itinerary, and since desktop is the best, compared to laptops
correct ?

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post Jul 6 2015, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jul 6 2015, 08:48 PM)
Oh? I didn't know a DSLR is stealthy?
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I think he means that you can't zoom THAT far with an iphone aas compared with a DSLR and zoom lens.
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post Jul 6 2015, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jul 6 2015, 11:04 PM)
Alright, fair points taken. I have never suggested a camera phone, no matter the brand, could replace the DSLR in the professional field (people who makes a living from it not casual photographers who just wanna have the best of everything thinking they'll be as good as the pros too). Nor have I suggested that a camera phone could ever replace the gear a hobbyist have at the moment. The purist as I have mentioned before. Sadly, the purist can never overtake the number of casual photographers (term used loosely here). And market force dictates that a DSLR will once again be a niche market.

Love them or loathe them, Apple has actually presented to the GENERAL public that, yes, it's ok to ditch your DSLR, it's ok to ditch your hybrids, it's completely ok to throw your compacts. Buy our phones, you will be perceived as having a pro quality camera JUST like a DSLR ad that suggest yes, you a nerd with apathy in photo skill can be like a pro too!
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Yes, im with you in saying that Apple has managed to influence the whole game in more prominent ways just like how they did it with the introduction of Apple Store,iTunes and iPhones. More people are snapping pictures, taking photos are no longer an activity exclusive to people with cameras which at one point considered to be a very expensive thing. Making photography more approachable has taken social life into a whole new level. These are all outstanding merits which is why i believe Apple is deserving of all the praises they have gathered so far.

But will camera phones overtake professional gears someday? no and they never will. But why should a competition exist in the first place? they are both entities that compliments each other, as opposed to some opinions out here that demands that only one will survive. This is not a deathmatch, it does not have to be.
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post Jul 6 2015, 11:28 PM

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why scientists don't replace Hubble Space Telescope with iPhone?
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post Jul 6 2015, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(Ayer @ Jul 6 2015, 11:18 PM)
Yes, im with you in saying that Apple has managed to influence the whole game in more prominent ways just like how they did it with the introduction of Apple Store,iTunes and iPhones. More people are snapping pictures, taking photos are no longer an activity exclusive to people with cameras which at one point considered to be a very expensive thing. Making photography more approachable has taken social life into a whole new level. These are all outstanding merits which is why i believe Apple is deserving of all the praises they have gathered so far.

But will camera phones overtake professional gears someday? no and they never will. But why should a competition exist in the first place? they are both entities that compliments each other, as opposed to some opinions out here that demands that only one will survive. This is not a deathmatch, it does not have to be.
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You sir have my utmost respect in presenting a clear comment in a forum, something that's lacking in most so-called forum participants here.

Apologies for the harsh language earlier notworthy.gif
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post Jul 6 2015, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(munak991 @ Jul 6 2015, 11:05 PM)
Yes, not only just possible. The result its just infront of you.
IT IS PROVEN

http://www.apple.com/iphone/world-gallery/...-kwg-iphone-com

ITS HERE!
photography is all about skill not gear!
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It's about skills and gear. You can't that kind of photo with black and white camera can you?
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post Jul 7 2015, 07:47 AM

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It seems as soon as one iPhone makes it to market fanboys are already clamouring for the next. With this year's update expected to be the obligatory 's' skew to 2014's iPhone 6 expectations should be tempered; however, speculation would have it that this could be the biggest incremental upgrade of all time!

Early rumours in June suggested front camera flash and hints of a DSLR-style lens; and now in July we're beginning to see hard evidence in the form of leaked pics.
9to5Mac reports an almost physically identical upgrade to the unit which would put a damper on murmurs over the use of dual lens DSLR quality camera tech.
With internal boards & components repositioned there's still room to innovate inside

The biggest news from this leak suggests that the iPhone will carry a brand new 12-megapixel rear-facing camera, a 5-megapixel front-facing camera (for the selfie inclined), and 4k video recording to boot; let's hope the iPhone 6s packs enough storage for iPhone filmmakers.

iPhoneography is at an all time high (the most used camera on Flickr)and the award-winning Shot on iPhone 6 ad campaign has been plastered around town to prove it. So will we be seeing creamier photos and the rise of bokeh as iPhone takes it to the mainstream? If so, then we liked it before it was cool!

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Sony sensor in Iphone6 really good


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post Jul 7 2015, 07:51 AM

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QUOTE(Manlet @ Jul 6 2015, 11:06 PM)
ok, so now u go vacation instead of bringing a smartphone like the 6 plus, or the s6, which can do pretty much everything above average

you bring a DSLR, because it is the best in capturing picture,
and you also bring along a satellite phone because it has the best signal,
also a military precision GPS because it has the best accuracy that is within 2 meters
you also bring along a desktop right, because then you can book flight and plan your itinerary, and since desktop is the best, compared to laptops
correct ?
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post Jul 7 2015, 08:26 AM

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A DSLR has many features that an iphone doesn't have. For serious photography like birding and macro shots...burst mode, fast capture and focusing, you haven't experienced the finer points of digital photography. The iphone is good for recreational photography but for serious photography...come on!

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