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TStreblecase
post Jul 6 2015, 04:38 PM, updated 11y ago

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Apple so confidently puts up billboards the whole world proclaiming those photos on it were shot using the iPhone 6. Now, any photographer will tell you that for such a large photo, the pixels counts & many factors comes into play..aperture, shutter speed, white balance yada yada yada. So, if that's so, why in the world do we need standalone cameras like DSLR, hybrids, compacts etc anymore when a small phone will do. Is it time to throw away standalone cameras?

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post Jul 6 2015, 04:44 PM

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You guys don't understand? Even if it's shot using a composite of photos, you still don't have lug around a heavy camera. I'm not talking about purist. But for the masses, I don't think they'll bother buying another standalone camera anymore. If the phone can solve the problem of night photography, it's sunset for cameras.
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post Jul 6 2015, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(tahfeikei @ Jul 6 2015, 04:44 PM)
if you are into photography, you do not need to ask such questions
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Read my comment above yours.
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post Jul 6 2015, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(munak991 @ Jul 6 2015, 04:47 PM)
The thing with small len,is cannot get shallow depth of field.
24-30 MP picture quality for poster, billboard and a lot more.

You try use iPhone now to shoot night video with high ISO, see how much noise it generated?

If stand alone camera can solve everything, why still need DSLR or even Mirrorless
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Again, I'm not talking about purist. What I'm trying to convey is, the standalone cameras will be trounced by a phone, no matter which brand, for those who don't bother about DSLR, mirror less or even compacts.

QUOTE(andymillenium @ Jul 6 2015, 04:47 PM)
those who say iphone can can bungkus dslr seriously knows shit about dslr.......
there are way more things that can be done on dslr that cant be done on a iphone cam.....

for point n snap, casual photos i do giv credit to iphone for doing a neat job....other than that...meh...
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I'm not saying phone can bungkus DSLR.
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post Jul 6 2015, 04:55 PM

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This is purely a discussion on the viability of cameras being made a dinosaur by the phone. I'm saying this coz there are many camera shops that would have to bungkus soon. It's not like say 5 years back when everyone wants to have a DSLR. For casual photo shoot, I don't think many would bother buying a camera anymore
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post Jul 6 2015, 04:57 PM

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OK, I think I made a mistake of calling DSLR fags to kam in. Put your butthurt aside & discuss la.
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post Jul 6 2015, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(taohannan @ Jul 6 2015, 05:22 PM)
lol TS clearly didnt ever capture picture using any  of full frame dslr
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Clearly you can't hold on to a decent conversation. Please quote me if I ever mentioned anywhere in my post or comments that iPhone>all?

I'm tempted to think most of you are a bunch of retards or at least fanboy of something.

Let me reiterate.....

THIS IS NOT ABOUT IPHONE HAVING BETTER PQ THAN STANDALONE CAMERAS! IF YOU STILL CANT UNDERSTAND, MAY I SUGGEST THE NEAREST MONTESSORI.
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post Jul 6 2015, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(otakotak @ Jul 6 2015, 06:30 PM)
ts hulu never own any dslr that's why donno
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These are the type of retards in /k thumbup.gif
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post Jul 6 2015, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(spacelion @ Jul 6 2015, 06:39 PM)
it's like astrophotography, u dont think that 1 image give u the milky way lel
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Obviously being a senior member here doesn't exclude you from the R category. Do you even understand plain English to begin with?

If I wanna talk about PQ, the title of this tered would've been "why iPhone photos better than DSLR". But it's not. You guys are just full of butthurt.
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post Jul 6 2015, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(spacelion @ Jul 6 2015, 06:50 PM)
what is PQ, party quest? lol why u so mad. u post an obvious bait thread and expect ppl to reply seriously to you? in kopitiam ?
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You don't even begin to understand what a bait tered is. Am I not asking a legitimate question? Tell me which part is the bait? By calling you guys DSLR fags? tongue.gif
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post Jul 6 2015, 07:00 PM

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doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

OK, DSLR>all

http://www.businessinsider.my/iphone-6-vs-...1MR02ptK2ybR.97
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post Jul 6 2015, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(spacelion @ Jul 6 2015, 07:11 PM)
now now dont get so upset. it's like those stupid audiophiles, they think CD is the big thing but eventually become outdated as digital high bitrate becomes widely available. You will have your day in the sun, it just won't be as soon as you think.
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Now that's a more decent reply thumbup.gif Although my sarcasm meter is tingling wildly tongue.gif

QUOTE(wlcling @ Jul 6 2015, 07:15 PM)
The dslr user quite fail... If able to lose to iPhone in catching moving objects (page 7,8,9)

Anyway nowadays it's not so much about Image quality already, all the users also viewing on phones and tablet, hard to see much difference. In fact with emergence of mobile devices, the preferred format of videos now are going vertical too..  camera phones trumps in this age because of the ecosystem, it connects to your phone which has a cloud, has post processing apps, links to social media, etc. the experience is constantly evolving unlike the dslr which may try to do the same but ends up clunky
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True, standalone are trying very hard though. Introduction of video function, wifi connectivity even instant connectivity to social medias. Which is laughable. Are they trying to be a smart phone? Meanwhile, the smartphone tries hard to be...a camera! Where's the point of equilibrium? tongue.gif
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post Jul 6 2015, 07:35 PM

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Before all of you fanboys comment any further, here's something the most famous of landscape photographer Ansel Adams would say...

The idea here is that the person, not the gear, takes the picture. And there is a story that tells the tale of an encounter between famous novelist Ernest Hemingway and famous photographer Ansel Adams. In the story, Hemingway is purported to have praised Adams’ photographs, saying, "You take the most amazing pictures. What kind of camera do you use?"

Adams frowned and then replied, "You write the most amazing stories. What kind of typewriter do you use?"
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post Jul 6 2015, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Jul 6 2015, 07:37 PM)
it's not wrong to dream,

just like vios dreaming of becoming a ferrari

both can run quite well on a perfect line at a short distance.

One reach 5 minutes earlier, the other 5 minutes later.

Not much difference, eh?
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I'm a little surprise you've used that analogy.

Imagine this scenario...a person with an iPhone & another with his bags of equipment. In the spur of the moment & at that exact moment, a one in a million shot appears. Who would be laughing all the way to the bank? The Ferrari or the vios? And I'm under the assumption that Ferrari is the bags of gears.

Oh, and dang...the person with the bags of gear can't take the shot even after the person with the iPhone camera collected his money for that one in a million shot coz he was busy changing his lens, adjusting the white balance, aperture, shutter bla bla bla tongue.gif whistling.gif
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post Jul 6 2015, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Jul 6 2015, 07:55 PM)
I'm not saying it's wrong to use iPhone as your main camera. You don't get to lose too much in terms of picture quality if you take pictures casually. I mean, heck, the camera app is well written and the coloring of the photo is amazing!

But when you wanna go up the big stage, you get the big gun. Low light? Long shutter speed? Depth? Cannon length lens? List goes on and on in terms of the advantage of using full-fledged camera.

Yes, undeniably, phone camera is really portable and mobile and a one-stop solution for many things. So, it's situational. I don't really think phone camera can really replace those big ass cameras in terms of quality.

Usability? That's a check.
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No one is disputing the DSLR in terms of flexibility in usage & in the hands of a capable person can produce photos that a camera phone can only dream of.

However, camera phone has pretty much triumphed over compacts and with more development over the years, who would bet against it toppling mirror less first of all?
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post Jul 6 2015, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Jul 6 2015, 08:15 PM)
triumphed over in terms of number of units in the market? Certainly.

Triumphed over in terms of value? maybe. Yeah.

Triumphed over in terms of portability and usability? Definitely.

Triumphed over in terms of quality? I don't know. Maybe. They need to overcome the physical limitation first.
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A person who would only ever view the photos in FB or Instagram wouldn't care about quality.
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post Jul 6 2015, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Jul 6 2015, 08:25 PM)
Your assumptions are fair and reflected my opinions too.

But my insta mostly following a/c like Sony Russia, Canon, Nikon, etc. LOL.
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Sadly that's the reality, like it or not. Have you ever encountered a person who judges the "quality" of the photo based on how clear the device's display is? doh.gif That's the type of person who's the majority & the reason for the impending doom of cameras.
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post Jul 6 2015, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(qeyl90 @ Jul 6 2015, 08:32 PM)
Just cause its capable doesnt mean evryone can emulate the same result..dont think anyone can take d same result without a specific setups n post processing and multiple exposure edits..u think evryone in the masses can do that..
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Fair point. Read above
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post Jul 6 2015, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(HiroBoroi @ Jul 6 2015, 08:45 PM)
A lot of the iconic photos, are taken during times of war, famine, natural disasters etc, where there is scarce food, shelter let alone electricity. Hence the use of simple mechanical film cameras. In these conditions, the iPhone would be dead and useless in two days. If you turn on the iPhone for that "one in a million shot" in a war zone, the screen will light up, and you would be dead. nod.gif
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Oh? I didn't know a DSLR is stealthy?
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post Jul 6 2015, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(big1 @ Jul 6 2015, 04:58 PM)
because iphone cannot zoom brows.gif

it is at focal length 28mm brows.gif
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This? What's to answer?

Butthurtness is still strong here despite of what has been posted. doh.gif

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