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post Apr 25 2016, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(mthc @ Apr 25 2016, 03:32 PM)
I think EM is nice especially mellowood and i was sold to it. But SEH build quality is lapsap and besides it's a speculative product as evidenced by the classifieds posted in all property portals.

I think TH is a better investment because I felt that a vast majority bought for ownstay, a way smaller quality township for better quality control, riding on kajang 2 commies and also the much better built quality.

15 mins may be near for you from TH to SEH but I can reach KLCC in 15 from PJ. So what's near and far? Well we better keep this TH thread back to its very own topic before it gets closed down again because of lap sap quality SEH always been mentioned here since V1. You can compare SEH in the other thead.

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Don't think thread will be closed if having healthy discussion. We are not name calling, lol. So, ur conclusion in summary as follow:

TH
1. Mostly bought for own stay (+ve)
2. Smaller township = better QC (+ve)
3. Nearer to Kajang 2 commies (+ve)
4. Better build quality (+ve)

SEH
1. Poor build quality (-ve)
2. Too many investor (-ve)

Boss, u bought TH for own stay or investment?
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post Apr 25 2016, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(klangvalleyrookie @ Apr 25 2016, 03:42 PM)
Don't think thread will be closed if having healthy discussion. We are not name calling, lol. So, ur conclusion in summary as follow:

TH
1. Mostly bought for own stay (+ve)
2. Smaller township = better QC (+ve)
3. Nearer to Kajang 2 commies (+ve)
4. Better build quality (+ve)

SEH
1. Poor build quality (-ve)
2. Too many investor (-ve)

Boss, u bought TH for own stay or investment?
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The latter
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post Apr 25 2016, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(mthc @ Apr 25 2016, 03:43 PM)
The latter
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I see. From the limited info gathered from the forum, i think TH build quality should be better too. But price in TH higher right, isn't price one of the major consideration when investing?
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post Apr 25 2016, 03:58 PM

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lol all tai kor . pls stop hot debate about township good and bad ya . let alone this thread post more healthy discussion . no one will win thru these type of debate , got good and bad for all township . no need compare . everywhere also got ppl buy and sell , love and hate . no point to keep argue this ya . tqvm
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QUOTE(klangvalleyrookie @ Apr 25 2016, 03:49 PM)
I see. From the limited info gathered from the forum, i think TH build quality should be better too. But price in TH higher right, isn't price one of the major consideration when investing?
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Brother. Nowadays when we see BBB we better run far away. Just let the donkeys que up and sink tgt. If one still has the mind set of low absolute amount props (500k and below) and room for appreciation is there then I doubt it can work in today's market already. This is what the majority of ppl is doing. This is what the past generation has been doing.

A speculative township will have an adverse effects on its products. The appreciation curve will be stagnant and there will be rental pressure too. Gone are the days of 300% appreciation over 5 years.

But if i think investment today is that you are to gauge at the right entry price to target the above average crowd. Think about it, easier loan approval etc for them when u want to dispose too.

The right price at the right location will never go wrong. Demand vs Supply. Demand (ownstay) > Supply (investors) = you do the math.

Developers are marketing their ass off and putting unsustainable ideas in an over promising township. It may last in the short term but what about the time when you wanna dispose it? Big promise comes great responsibilities bro. 1k plus acres? You man man maintain lor..

Just my honest opinion. You may disagree. Cheers

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post Apr 25 2016, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(fumiseki @ Apr 25 2016, 03:58 PM)
lol all tai kor . pls stop hot debate about township good and bad ya . let alone this thread post more healthy discussion . no one will win thru these type of debate , got good and bad for all township . no need compare . everywhere also got ppl buy and sell , love and hate . no point to keep argue this ya . tqvm
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Boss, relax..... We are not arguing leh. If u look at my comments, i didn't mention or try to imply which townships are better. Just trying to understand what makes an investor choose TH as compare to other nearby townships. i think it's good that we sometimes listen to differing views in order to better understand the minds of prop buyers. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(klangvalleyrookie @ Apr 25 2016, 04:11 PM)
Boss, relax..... We are not arguing leh. If u look at my comments, i didn't mention or try to imply which townships are better. Just trying to understand what makes an investor choose TH as compare to other nearby townships. i think it's good that we sometimes listen to differing views in order to better understand the minds of prop buyers.  biggrin.gif
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Are you vested in SEH? May I know why?

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post Apr 25 2016, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(mthc @ Apr 25 2016, 04:00 PM)
Brother. Nowadays when we see BBB we better run far away. Just let the donkeys que up and sink tgt. If one still has the mind set of low absolute amount props (500k and below) and room for appreciation is there then I doubt it can work in today's market already. This is what the majority of ppl is doing. This is what the past generation has been doing. 

A speculative township will have an adverse effects on its products. The appreciation curve will be stagnant and there will be rental pressure too. Gone are the days of 300% appreciation over 5 years.

But if i think investment today is that you are to gauge at the right entry price to target the above average crowd. Think about it, easier loan approval etc for them when u want to dispose too.

The right price at the right location will never go wrong. Demand vs Supply. Demand (ownstay) > Supply (investors) = you do the math.

Developers are marketing their ass off and putting unsustainable ideas in an over promising township. It may last in the short term but what about the time when you wanna dispose it? Big promise comes great responsibilities bro. 1k plus acres? You man man maintain lor..

Just my honest opinion. You may disagree. Cheers
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Boss, tqvm for ur honest opinion.
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post Apr 25 2016, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(mthc @ Apr 25 2016, 04:13 PM)
Are you vested in SEH? May I know why?

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Ya lor, bought a superlink at SEH for investment. Just gut feeling that it's good choice after studying Setia Alam's biz model. Believe some ppl might disagree but i personally think SA is consider successful, but truth be told i did not invest in SA.
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post Apr 25 2016, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(klangvalleyrookie @ Apr 25 2016, 04:23 PM)
Ya lor, bought a superlink at SEH for investment. Just gut feeling that it's good choice after studying Setia Alam's biz model. Believe some ppl might disagree but i personally think SA is consider successful, but truth be told i did not invest in SA.
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How much did u enter SEH?

SA was a sweet spot during the boom. In fact everywhere was. But a lot of ppl will compare township A to township B etc. At the end of the day, demographic factor speaks the loudest. Yr SEH taikor posted the population growth in semenyih before. It was growing indeed but do bare in mind if it's growing due to ppl migrating into smwnyih or the population in the kampung-kampung are growing too? In that case what about spending power?

It would be rather ridiculous for me to take tropicana damansara township to compare with tropicana heights. Demographic factor is different. I felt that we should look at its surrounding, demography and also the demand. If I were to enter SEH, I would do it at the growing stage and not the initial stage.

My honest opinion. You may disagree on this too.
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QUOTE(klangvalleyrookie @ Apr 25 2016, 04:23 PM)
Ya lor, bought a superlink at SEH for investment. Just gut feeling that it's good choice after studying Setia Alam's biz model. Believe some ppl might disagree but i personally think SA is consider successful, but truth be told i did not invest in SA.
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i love SEH too , Grandlis or Floris superlink is my flavour when i initially wan to enter semenyih , in term of built-up , pricing , concept and entry cost is attractive also .

but i use it for ownstay , so location for me is priority lor. Bside tat , honestly speaking , when floris showhouse launched , i intend straight go there visit and make booking on the spot , but after i view the showhouse, i need to think twice b4 i make booking due to the quality of the showroom ... u will see quite bad workmanship done even to the showroom . just cant imagine for those not showroom unit quality, mayb only me think of that . no offend
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QUOTE(fumiseki @ Apr 25 2016, 04:50 PM)
i love SEH too , Grandlis or Floris superlink is my flavour when i initially wan to enter semenyih , in term of built-up , pricing , concept and entry cost is attractive also .

but i use it for ownstay , so location for me is priority lor. Bside tat , honestly speaking , when floris showhouse launched , i intend straight go there visit and make booking on the spot , but after i view the showhouse, i need to think twice b4 i make booking due to the quality of the showroom ... u will see quite bad workmanship done even to the showroom . just cant imagine for those not showroom unit quality, mayb only me think of that . no offend
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Parkfield didn't even have a showroom last time during its launch yet many purchased it due to Tropicana's reputable workmanship.

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QUOTE(mthc @ Apr 25 2016, 04:34 PM)
How much did u enter SEH?

SA was a sweet spot during the boom. In fact everywhere was. But a lot of ppl will compare township A to township B etc. At the end of the day, demographic factor speaks the loudest. Yr SEH taikor posted the population growth in semenyih before. It was growing indeed but do bare in mind if it's growing due to ppl migrating into smwnyih or the population in the kampung-kampung are growing too? In that case what about spending power?

It would be rather ridiculous for me to take tropicana damansara township to compare with tropicana heights. Demographic factor is different. I felt that we should look at its surrounding, demography and also the demand. If I were to enter SEH, I would do it at the growing stage and not the initial stage.

My honest opinion. You may disagree on this too.
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Bought grandlis at sub 700k @ almost zero entry cost. So just go ahead test water lor....

SA was investment grade especially during early development stage but not since the past 3-4 yrs. Prices already gone up the roof by that time. Current product offering also does not suit my investment profile. I think a lot of ppl staying in SA are actually upgraders from Klang, especially from the old tamans in the vicinity. When looking at SEH, i see the same scenario in Semenyih. Hence, for investment purpose, think that house prices should not be placed too high considering the spending power in Semenyih or to a further extend, Kajang. Hope my judgement is correct.


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post Apr 25 2016, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(fumiseki @ Apr 25 2016, 04:50 PM)
i love SEH too , Grandlis or Floris superlink is my flavour when i initially wan to enter semenyih , in term of built-up , pricing , concept and entry cost is attractive also .

but i use it for ownstay , so location for me is priority lor. Bside tat , honestly speaking , when floris showhouse launched , i intend straight go there visit and make booking on the spot , but after i view the showhouse, i need to think twice b4 i make booking due to the quality of the showroom ... u will see quite bad workmanship done even to the showroom . just cant imagine for those not showroom unit quality, mayb only me think of that . no offend
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Agree, buying prop for own stay and investment is a different consideration all together.
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QUOTE(klangvalleyrookie @ Apr 25 2016, 05:23 PM)
Bought grandlis at sub 700k @ almost zero entry cost. So just go ahead test water lor....

SA was investment grade especially during early development stage but not since the past 3-4 yrs. Prices already gone up the roof by that time. Current product offering also does not suit my investment profile. I think a lot of ppl staying in SA are actually upgraders from Klang, especially from the old tamans in the vicinity. When looking at SEH, i see the same scenario in Semenyih. Hence, for investment purpose, think that house prices should not be placed too high considering the spending power in Semenyih or to a further extend, Kajang. Hope my judgement is correct.
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Klang has always been an undercover rich man area. It has a very upscale income demography. A friend who is very familiar with Klang once told me that a lot of rich ppl moved out of the dodgy part of klang to SA.

700k is quite expensive tho. I remembered somewhere that SEH was 400k to 450k during the initial stage. But those were much smaller units right? 1.5k sq ft or something. That is actually very very small for a landed house.

Good luck to you. May yr investment comes great return.
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QUOTE(mthc @ Apr 25 2016, 05:34 PM)
Klang has always been an undercover rich man area. It has a very upscale income demography. A friend who is very familiar with Klang once told me that a lot of rich ppl moved out of the dodgy part of klang to SA.

700k is quite expensive tho. I remembered somewhere that SEH was 400k to 450k during the initial stage. But those were much smaller units right? 1.5k sq ft or something. That is actually very very small for a landed house.

Good luck to you. May yr investment comes great return.
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Yup, phase 1 20x65 dsl in fng is cheaper no doubt, psf around 267. Compare with 24x76 superlink dsl in gng launched 2 yrs later with psf around 290, think that the premium is justified lah....
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QUOTE(klangvalleyrookie @ Apr 25 2016, 05:46 PM)
Yup, phase 1 20x65 dsl in fng is cheaper no doubt, psf around 267. Compare with 24x76 superlink dsl in gng launched 2 yrs later with psf around 290, think that the premium is justified lah....
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Haha. Good luck to u la bro. At least u didn't que up like those donkeys last time buy cheap stuff. Now suffer lo.. herd mentality.
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QUOTE(klangvalleyrookie @ Apr 25 2016, 05:46 PM)
Yup, phase 1 20x65 dsl in fng is cheaper no doubt, psf around 267. Compare with 24x76 superlink dsl in gng launched 2 yrs later with psf around 290, think that the premium is justified lah....
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Boss, you should opt TH Fairfield last time, now paper gain RM200k liao.. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(mthc @ Apr 25 2016, 06:19 PM)
Haha. Good luck to u la bro. At least u didn't que up like those donkeys last time buy cheap stuff. Now suffer lo.. herd mentality.
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Aiseh..... don't say like that lah.... they got the lowest price. I sincerely wish everyone makes a profitable investment. Be it TH, SEH or EM, I'm glad to see that the commies at this part of the town is improving quite rapidly.

Good luck and happy investing to all. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(klangvalleyrookie @ Apr 25 2016, 03:32 PM)
Haiz... so confusing. Now which is true, TH address in Kajang or Semenyih? Seems like not easy to get a definite answer.
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Haiya, address not important lah.. important is TH located at the most prime area of Kajang... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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