if i own LP....EMG would be my 1st choice...not wrong if JB on the LP....

nah, i dun really like EMGs
its cool but i dun really like its cleans
very plastic sounding???

im looking for a duncan which can give high output while tightening the bass
open to dimarzios but their kinda overpriced here right?

my stock pickups are gibson 500T on bridge and 496R
i like its output but its bass is kinda loose IMO [500T]

If you had made up your mind....please let me know...maybe i'll join in to reduce the shipping cost.....thanks ya..

besides....EMG's clean is like 'force to sounds clean' tone....not really natural....

I vote DiMarzio D Sonic
If you are looking for a JB with more bass, the D Sonic fits really well IMHO. If u wanna buy DiMarzio's just buy online la, don't let the local price be a deterrent.

This post has been edited by MetalZone: Nov 10 2006, 01:25 AM

Their fullsize humbucker is aroud RM350. After discount it less than RM320. Ordering from Gain10 is about the same. The RM380 ones are the single coil sized humbuckers. Signature model costs around RM450. Not horrible prices actually. Consistent with ordering online (plus shipping).

The Duncan Distortion sounds like what you want. High output, tight bass, fat, really great for heavy stuff and metal. The Papa Roach dude uses dual Duncan Distortion in his guitars. Not exactly a fan of their music but you got to admit, the heavy tone is really nice. Fat and thick and modern.

sean392 is a confused person

in the first place you want high output while tightening the bass.
true, a duncan distortion is the best choice for that.

but the cleans on it arent fantastic either.
little fact, the duncan livewire metal was created for fans who wanted the duncan distortion in an active design.
btw, the duncan livewire metal has no usable clean sound.

also the duncan distortion is the pickup that some recommend for those who want a EMG81 sound, but in a passive design.

This post has been edited by Everdying: Nov 10 2006, 06:16 PM

The way I look at it, stop worrying to much about whether the bridge pup will sound good clean or not. It's not like we are playing one pickup guitar anyway. There is always the neck for cleans (which is much warmer)

After going through quite a few high output pups I have came to realized great distortion and great clean sound do not co-exist together.

You either get really nice high gain sound but horrible clean or really nice clean but really bad high gain sound.

I love the Evolution for High Gain stuff, cutting, screaming harmonics, super tight, and super clear even when under an insane amount of gain.

But it distort the clean channel, turning it into crunch.

Now I am using a Breed and while the cleans are significantly better, I still yearn for the scream and tightness of an Evo sometimes. The Breed under high gain is noticeably loser, not as clear, doesn't scream as well, and there is a hint of fuzz to the distortion (which is nice for rhythm as it fattens up the tone)

ps-I think the Evo is a lot more closer to the EMG81 vibe than the Duncan Distortion.

yeah maybe

but the cleans on my 496R is actually quite usable
the cleans on the 500T is not something that i really appreciate lol
how bout a duncan JB ?? im really interested on how it sounds like
i dun really need a mega high output till EMG levels i guess
any alnico pickups that has a medium/medium high output??
JB is on alnicos or ceramics? i dun really remember


@noisetrigger
havent heard papa roach in a LONG time
ever since i stopped listening to the radio at home lol
i'll go get some songs see how they sound like
thx for the tip tho =p

Is it Evo having tighter bass than the Breed?

besides...what's the main diffrences btw both pickup(bridge..dp159 and dp166)



This post has been edited by Criptonox89: Nov 10 2006, 07:49 PM

The JB is alnico 5. Some interesting info to share, the Duncan Distortion is in fact a JB with ceramic instead of alnico 5.

Evo is definitely tighter on the bass, in fact everything is tight with the Evo.

The main differences,
Evo
-Tighter bass
-Brighter
-Higher Output
-Screaming harmonics
-Lots of clarity even under high gain
-No clean (will overdrive any clean channel)

Breed
-Looser bass
-Warmer/Fatter
-Still high output but not as high as the Evo
-Harmonics more along the lines of sweet and not scream
-A hint of fuzz under High gain (But makes it sound fat for rhythm)
-Really nice cleans especially split

yea, use the neck for cleans.
thats why i stuck in a EMG60A to complement the 81 in the bridge of my LP.

So is that a problem if i get the Evo in bridge and the Breed on the neck....?

As you know...my guitar is H-S-H.....so the single coil still can be used as normal?

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Wrong posted..sorry

This post has been edited by Criptonox89: Nov 10 2006, 08:43 PM

Anybody here know how much it cost for a Dimarzio pickups?

I got similar quotation...i choose Evolution Bridge DP159Breed Neck DP165....after work out with shipping fees to malaysia....it's RM655.70....after devided...it's RM327.85 equally.....with this price....should i still necessary to buy overseas to reduce the cost but i might have to take the risk(tax, warranty)...

Thanks.

This post has been edited by Criptonox89: Nov 11 2006, 06:55 PM

from experience, i don't think you can judge how a pickup will sound on your guitar unless it has some kind of fixed variables for reference e.g les paul or strat (mahogany/rosewood, alder/rosewood/maple). then other variables will come to play - efx and amp. it's so subjective that its actually a good business to be in.

i used to have a SD Full shred that sounded sh*tty in all my guitars until i swap it to a Fender HM. it sounded like they belong together. the DiMarzio pup from the HM ends up in my Wash N1 and sounded really good.

i found that JB's a very safe bet on most guitars and Duncans have a nice mids. then again i hate single coil so it's all up to your ears. until you have that pickup in your guitar, we'll be talking it about it forever.

my 2 cents.

yea, mentioned before that its best you match the frequency of the pickups to complement what wood the guitar has.

^^Everdying - what amp do you use? just curious with all the EMGs that u have and which one do you like - 81 or 85? been putting off plans to get an 85.

for practice i use either headphones thru my korg pandora px4 or a kustom tube12.
EMG81 and 85, i prefer the 85 more since its slightly more balanced sounding.
85 is alnico, 81 is ceramic.
but i just replaced the 85 in the neck of the LP with a 60A, also an alnico, cos it sounds much warmer.

for me, the 60A is THE neck pickup from EMG.
so the 85 goes into my SG bridge, cos it should help complement the SG's lighter body.
while the 81's brightness is balanced off by the LP's heavier body.
in the end both bridges should sound pretty similar.

This post has been edited by Everdying: Nov 13 2006, 06:46 AM