Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

Investment GAMUDA GARDENS & KUNDANG ESTATES @ RAWANG, Together 2 townships worth RM11 billion

views
     
bill_yap
post Feb 9 2017, 06:05 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
165 posts

Joined: Apr 2006
The location is very convenient, either to KL or to Damansara PJ or even Sg. Buloh, selayang kepong.
If eco grandeur, eco majestic, Bandar seri coalfields, Seremban S2 are selling at similar pricing, this gamuda garden definitely is best choice among them. Of coz my comments are referring to Gardens not Kundang estates.
bill_yap
post Jun 23 2017, 01:07 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
165 posts

Joined: Apr 2006
Eco grandeur 30x60 starting price is 700k, LH with nice landscaping but no direct access to any highway...

Gamuda Gardens 20x75 starting price is 680k, also nice landscaping and direct access to E1 North South.

If you compare these 2 big scale self sustainable residential + commercial development, EG located 20km further away from KL but slightly cheaper than GG.

So, is a matter of choice which development suits you better and how far away from your working area.
bill_yap
post Jun 23 2017, 06:56 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
165 posts

Joined: Apr 2006
QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jun 23 2017, 09:45 AM)
lol where u get extra 20km more to KL? difference 5km-10km only... depending on route taken... lol.... and direct access means u mostly die die must use that highway already.... EG to guthrie/later or even to NSE exit also not really that far... and the roads to those exits guarantee no jam one no matter what hours...  laugh.gif  laugh.gif haha....
*
I measured from my house, KL address, about 15km difference, yes I do agree with you depending on route n which region of KL....

For accessibility, GG adjacent to E1, LATAR, Guthrie is far more better than EG fronting PMD... Furthermore, E1 is d much more convenient highway compared to LATAR.


Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image Attached Image
bill_yap
post Jun 23 2017, 08:23 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
165 posts

Joined: Apr 2006
QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jun 23 2017, 07:03 PM)
But its worth 200k extra just live next to tolled highway?
*
200k? Comparison in terms of Psf?
bill_yap
post Jun 24 2017, 01:01 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
165 posts

Joined: Apr 2006
And ur home minister preference... Lol
Bring ur wife to both development, let her decide so that u don't get blame later.... Haha
bill_yap
post Jun 25 2017, 07:04 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
165 posts

Joined: Apr 2006
QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jun 24 2017, 09:41 AM)
in term of land size 20 x 65 larger build up example EG is 565k gross.... for 20 x 75 of GG around 680k.... is the direct access to toll in and out with a must to pay toll no matter what condition worth the 130k extra? its nt everyday we have to use the tolled highway to exit the township... as weekend usually u can avoid the hassle of paying tolls to exit actually... and with everything else remain constant, we assume the G&G, landscaping or quality of finishing of both EW and Gamuda the same....

during working hours.... GG have the convenience of travelling to PJ subang or even KL using E1, Latar and Guthrie.... as all the users from EG side also will use LATAR/GUthrie combination to exit the township with the exception of those travelling very early in the morning will use PMD....  during off peak.... PMD access to guthrie, nkve or federal its actually way cheaper option and not a bad option.... only RM1.10 toll upon exit from guthrie to federal or to NKVE and u can head to major cities u wanted during weekend...
*
OK, let's do some Maths on how much price Psf between EG n GG.
EG 20x65 Graham built-up area 1743sqft @ RM565,000; meaning RM324 psf @ smaller land size of 1300 sqft

GG 20x75 Agalia built-up area 1961sqft @ RM675,000; meaning RM344 psf @ bigger land size of 1500 sqft

Conclusion: GG is selling 6% (344 vs 324)higher than EG by giving extra 15% (1500 vs 1300) land size and better accessibility.

Well, I think both development are quite similar in terms of pricing if u include that extra 200 sqft of land size, EW marketing strategies give u a wrong impression that EG is selling 200k or 130k cheaper but poorer accessibility.

This post has been edited by bill_yap: Jun 25 2017, 07:05 PM


Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image
bill_yap
post Jun 25 2017, 07:37 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
165 posts

Joined: Apr 2006
Need to wait for official launch from GG, currently only EG layout is available.
bill_yap
post Jun 25 2017, 08:22 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
165 posts

Joined: Apr 2006
QUOTE(37 Exposures @ Jun 25 2017, 07:55 PM)
Since when landed become condo need to wait so long for official launch? Any masterplan to show, GG webpage show nothing.
*
If you wanna see the layout of show unit, u can visit here:
http://3dcapslock.com.my/our-portfolio/aga...by-gamuda-land/
bill_yap
post Jun 26 2017, 08:36 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
165 posts

Joined: Apr 2006
QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jun 26 2017, 12:58 AM)
next to tolled highways mean little......

you need to pay toll til your nose bleed....and still need to drive (and hopefully wont become like NKVE or LDP, bumper to bumper traffic) 5 to 10kms to get to yr next destination, to get your grocery, to watch movie, to have a meal or anything modern really.
*
Lol... Watch movie still better to go to big shopping mall, u can take d ktm/mrt via toll free Jalan B29 if u wanna save the toll n parking fee. F&B plus grocery should be no problem since both GG n EG are self sustainable mix development township like DPC.
Most importantly with well-planned jogging/cycling track plus beautiful landscaping, u have no excuse not to exercise daily.... Haha.
bill_yap
post Jun 26 2017, 09:21 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
165 posts

Joined: Apr 2006
QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jun 26 2017, 08:43 AM)
1st of all, exercise regime is in your mind, not in the place.

you think DPC all dine in DPC? there are fast turn-around for restaurants in waterfront also.......same with Setia Alam commercial area and setia mall......F&B hard biz to be in.........

can you name me two successful Gamuda commercial precincts?
*
Maybe just for me, if the jogging track is right in front of my house, will strengthen my mind or desire to jog.... I feel lazy to wake up and drive 10 mins distance away to jog.

Yes, very pricey to dine in those water front, lake front, designated F&B restaurants like DPC, BSA....

Successful Gamuda township with commercial precincts so far I can only think of Kota Kemuning, Bandar botanic lo... AFAIK kota kemuning under MBSA strict rules that no cinema allowed, no choice residents there have to go to Sunway or Klang for movie.... Kinda sux for movie lovers...
bill_yap
post Jun 26 2017, 09:38 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
165 posts

Joined: Apr 2006
QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jun 26 2017, 09:27 AM)
jade hills commercial boh lat....no sound no gas. devil.gif
*
Luckily Kajang many good n cheap foods... Lol
bill_yap
post Jun 30 2017, 01:20 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
165 posts

Joined: Apr 2006
QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jun 28 2017, 09:44 AM)
accessibility also quite subjective... some ppl prefer cheaper/no toll roads during weekend/ non peak hours travelling... for GG... the toll in unavoidable due to the direct link.... from EG to LATAR or E1 exit also can be less than 10 mins during weekdays... and use the same route as GG is using to exit to everywhere when needed.... during weekend can directly use PMD/ kampung subang/glenmarie routes to exit without paying toll for sure...

and if u see the % utilization of land for the both units above... almost similar.... the 200k or 130k is consider cheaper for the subjective accessibility... lol.... of course there are ppl hu prefer direct tolled road... no wrong with that... hence the subjectivity is there... if anyone considering getting GG.... can have a visit at EG show unit and compare for yourself....
*
I brought my wife to EG yesterday again, can see all the busy earthwork activities... Still dissatisfied to both Jalan Cerakah and PMD road conditions and bottlenecks...

Visited both Graham 20x65 n Avenham 30x60:

Avenham with built-up area of 1778 sqft is selling @ RM655,000 which is rm368 psf

It is more expensive than GG 20x75 Agalia with built-up area of 1961 sqft, RM675,000 which is rm344 psf

Lol.... Again, good marketing strategy from EW👍



Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image
bill_yap
post Jun 30 2017, 01:40 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
165 posts

Joined: Apr 2006
QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jun 30 2017, 09:01 AM)
the price has increased after the launching period... gamuda will do the same also after they launched for some time... the price will be increase.... and some of the units have different price also depending on facing and location... haha... but i do admit.... avenham quite underutilized the land size.... it supposed to be a mini semi D but then yea design issues..... for graham is more appropriate to compare vs GG Agalia.... the difference on the length only.... haha....and Graham build up utilization rate is higher.....
*
Yes, Graham is more worthy... BTW, EG totally outshines the adjacent developments around that area in terms of advertising, construction activities festive events etc... 😂
bill_yap
post Sep 30 2017, 04:22 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
165 posts

Joined: Apr 2006
QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 27 2017, 09:19 AM)
EG is near to all of the basic ameneties of puncak alam.... econsave, tesco, speedmart, Seven-E, commercials in BSU, shoplots near econsave, MCD, Dominos, mamak and etc... u wanna buy a basic bawang no need drive min 10 mins away just to get it....

GG is secluded on its own... low density for now... not sure about their future developments... landscaping gamuda and EW should be not too far ahead.... GG closer distance towards KL and have direct link exit to highway... which means whatever shit happen... u need pay toll to go out no matter what...

anyway i think its better for you to look for landed at the southern side... easier to travel to puchong... as for TTDI... going from here and going from there... not too much difference... maybe have a look at rimbayu or around puchong south etc....
*
GG fronting road is B29 (JKR state road) a toll free road to Sg. Buloh n Damansara bound via B25 n Jalan Kuala Selangor Kepong (about 20mins to reach damansara). Whereas Rawang bound via Kundang also toll free route; located next to E1 north south express way, Guthrie Corridor Expressway and Latar highway is an added advantage in terms of accessibility, not a limitation that must pay toll for every single trip.

This post has been edited by bill_yap: Sep 30 2017, 04:26 PM
bill_yap
post Oct 17 2020, 12:21 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
165 posts

Joined: Apr 2006
Can't really see the difference, with current cloverleaf interchange

user posted image

 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0226sec    1.46    7 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 17th December 2025 - 02:43 PM