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chocobo7779
post Jul 29 2015, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jul 29 2015, 11:37 AM)
is selling RM2.75K low yat plaza shop, Conner shop.. on 3rd floor i saw seller got 2 of them..  i think is good price too bad i was broke and already got one..(i buy RM2.8K)
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Prices need to be lower... it's too close to the 980Ti... sweat.gif
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post Jul 30 2015, 10:06 AM

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Did anyone install the latest version of Catalyst on Windows 10?

I just upgraded my machine to Windows 10 yesterday... brows.gif

http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desk...s%2010%20-%2064
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post Jul 30 2015, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(ave666 @ Jul 30 2015, 10:17 AM)
Guys,  I've used sapphire 6870 for a long time already and I'm thinking about to upgrade my gfx card. I'm thinking about r9 380x or equivalent card. Any noticeable change for this card from my previous? My PC use mainly as htpc and occasionally use for gaming at 1080p as well. My cpu is i5 4690 and 8gb of ram. Any card from green camp that good for my purpose at 380x price range? Tia
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GTX970? Though bear in mind the 3.5GB VRAM... sweat.gif
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post Jul 30 2015, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(ave666 @ Jul 30 2015, 10:39 AM)
Don't worry of vram cause I don't gaming over than 1080p. How much of it and what contra than amd? Never owned a nvidia before
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I think that more games are utilizing more VRAM, no? hmm.gif

Anyway, there's no 380X, it's either the 380, or the 390. icon_idea.gif

RM1299 for a reference card if you are going for a 970. icon_idea.gif
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post Jul 30 2015, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jul 30 2015, 11:43 AM)
Hmm....it is either Nvidia GTX970 3.5GB or AMD R9 390.

Dont get AMD 380. It is an old design without any support for better Powertune/ZeroCore and Variable Refresh Rate support.

R9 390 = Better idle power management than 380 (use more power than gtx970), 8gb of VRAM (sure can put a lot of gta V and battlefield texture cache), support for Freesync.
GTX 970 = overclocking beast with 3.5gb vram, support for Gsync. 8bit HEVC support in hybrid DXVA.

In case if you plan to purchase monitor with variable refresh rate in future, you need to make the choice for either freesync or gsync video card now.
I can see you are the type that purchase an expensive goods for long term usage. So, choose which variable refresh rate(VRR) video card to match with your future VRR capable monitor.
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Erm - he's intending to use it on a TV, not on a desktop monitor. sweat.gif

But yeah, try to get a quiet card if possible, preferably a hybrid fan setup akin to ASUS's Strix. icon_idea.gif

BTW, if he goes red team again, I'd recommend Sapphire over other brands as their cards excel in terms of cooling and build quality. brows.gif

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post Jul 30 2015, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Jul 30 2015, 03:14 PM)
and then, theres this.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Looks like there's quite a bit of improvement - in benchmarks at least. tongue.gif

Hopefully this will translate to some gains in real world performance. brows.gif
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post Jul 31 2015, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Jul 31 2015, 01:20 AM)
after update to windows 10, it show my graphic card is AMD 7900 series doh.gif
even I use hwmonitor and check using dxdiag also same
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uninstalling and reinstall driver ....
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rclxub.gif How on earth you can convert a mobile GPU to a desktop GPU with Windows 10? rclxub.gif

A bit of tip for AMD users:

If you use Chrome, and if you experience that the Omnibox (address bar) is slow to display characters when you type them, disable hardware acceleration in Chrome settings. icon_idea.gif
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post Jul 31 2015, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jul 31 2015, 07:59 PM)
I am currently running on Radeon HD 6570 2GB, I am planning to get a used <Rm400 AMD GPU to replace mine currently, searching garage sales leads me to a used Dual-X R9 270 2GB OC With Boost, is this GPU ok or is there any better ones within that price range?
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Usage and current machine specifications? hmm.gif
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post Aug 18 2015, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Aug 17 2015, 08:30 PM)
If you got aircon, 390 runs pretty darn cool with all those custom cards or custom fans made by almost all manufacturers. Plus it got 8GB VRAM, shadow of mordor, COD Advanced Warfare etc can use those additional VRAM.

Even without aircon, I can still run my 290 Tri-X overclocked to 1150Mhz (stock 290 is 947Mhz, means 21.4% overclock) and memory to 1500Mhz (stock 1250Mhz, 20% overclock). Even with the voltage increase it still runs below 84C without aircon room (ambient temp 32C)

Face it, R9 390 is the new sub 300 dollar GPU king. Talking about PSUs, putting RM400 into better PSU is always good, trust me that you shouldn't even run GTX 970 with those cheap PSUs. Look at this guy with a dead GTX 970 with the first boot. Unlucky his PSU shorted and killed the brand new 970.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comme...ad_a_short_and/

Plus you should always use high quality PSUs to run high end parts, even though GTX 970 doesn't use more than 200 watts, it is still considered as high end (counted when it was first released)

Not to mention high quality PSUs have long warranty time, it is not a +RM400 upgrade just to use R9 390, it is a "supposed to use it from the beginning" upgrade.
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...and that's the reason why I always recommend a high quality unit. It's ironic that some people has the money to afford expensive gaming machines but cannot afford a high quality PSU. shakehead.gif
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post Aug 18 2015, 12:46 AM

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That amount of gains though:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalf...enchmark-tested

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post Aug 19 2015, 07:50 PM

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I think the problem right now is even if you have an external video card dock or something, you may not getting the best gaming experience due to the fact that the laptop's CPU is going to bottleneck the GPU... hmm.gif
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post Aug 21 2015, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(cyclone9 @ Aug 21 2015, 09:25 AM)
what is the best software to test if my GC had any artifact issue? I got issue sometimes my screen goes blank during youtube HD (720p). During gaming (Dota2), no issue tho.

Setup:
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ASUS EAH6770/2DI/1GD5
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What browser? hmm.gif

If it's Chrome - please disable hardware acceleration. icon_idea.gif

You may also want to disable hardware acceleration on Flash Player should the Youtube player reverts to the older flash player. icon_idea.gif

There are several applications that allow you to test for GPU artifacts. Unigine Heaven is one of them. icon_idea.gif
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post Aug 24 2015, 09:30 PM

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http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-r9-nano-del...-september-wip/

Well, this will decide whether I will upgrade to this, or otherwise... hmm.gif
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post Aug 26 2015, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Aug 26 2015, 05:43 PM)
Does that mean the Nano is on 390x level at best? hmm.gif
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Possible, but I'm still awaiting for the pricing... hmm.gif
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post Aug 27 2015, 12:24 PM

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I guess most people doesn't seem to understand the Nano - it's intended for the mini-ITX/microATX crowd, where space is always a premium. I have a microATX gaming machine, and while it does fit a 980Ti (theoretically) laugh.gif , but it will be a very tight squeeze. sweat.gif
My 7950 does fit into the case, but it is a huge pain whenever I need to take it out for cleaning - I have to remove the HDD cage and the CPU fan from the case before removing the card, which is tedious. sweat.gif

It might not appeal to the HTPC crowd, but for those with tiny cases, this card is a godsend to them. icon_idea.gif

Don't write off a product just because it does not appeal to you. This is obviously a product that appeals to a very small crowd, and I happen to belong to that crowd. laugh.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

Of course, the low yields of HBM may contribute to the high pricing - the pricing is likely to fall when there is better yields. hmm.gif

Addendum: If the Nano shares similar specs to the Fury X - then technically we can flash the VBIOS of the Fury X with a VBIOS from a Nano for greater power efficiency? hmm.gif

Also, this is a very niche product, highlighted by some reddit users:
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I've been saying this the entire time, the nano is incredibly highly binned and will have low supply. It is the epitome of a niche product. These chips would be wasted as a fury x, and are probably binned higher than fury x2, so why not make extra margin on them if there's even a tiny bit of demand? And based on the hype all over the internet about them there indeed is that demand. Yes 90% of people are disappointed they can't afford /justify one. But amd doesn't have supply to sell to you, and will happily sell you a 390x if that's the performance and price balance you want. For those who can afford and or justify the price, amd is gladly going to sell these Fiji dice at an even healthier margin
https://www.reddit.com/r/AdvancedMicroDevic...full_fiji_chip/

A niche product is not going to be cheap... icon_idea.gif

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post Aug 27 2015, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Aug 27 2015, 02:58 PM)
Nano < FuryX in no AIO cooler and less power phase

You can't blame the yield of HBM for high price since FuryX can do at same price while providing more, and Fury Vanilla also have the same HBM at a cheaper price.
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Erm - I think you get the wrong note. icon_idea.gif

The Nano is a halo product - it is never intended for the mainstream market and therefore there is not much competition, which leads to the very high price tag. icon_idea.gif

http://www.overclock.net/t/1568676/sponsor...md-nano-project

Sponsored by AMD, but this should give you an idea on a very small form factor machine that beats most gaming machines in terms of performance and form factors. icon_idea.gif

Size is about 7.5L (preliminary measurements) and this build attempts to stuff as much power as possible in the most compact form factor possible.

FYI, 7.5L is almost as large as a Xbox One, but this build literally demolishes the Xbox one and the PS4 performance wise. icon_idea.gif

There are some cases where AIO coolers do not fit in a small case. icon_idea.gif

Of course, that build should be intended for those who have lots of cash to burn. laugh.gif

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post Aug 27 2015, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(khelben @ Aug 27 2015, 03:33 PM)
Yeap I think many people were mistakenly thinking that Nano will be a lower range of the new HBM cards, like how the 270s are to the 280s.
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I don't know why people associate the Nano as the cheaper card out of the three? rclxub.gif
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post Aug 27 2015, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(c2_lover @ Aug 27 2015, 04:21 PM)
Probably because
1) It wont perform like fury x. SOS:http://www.techpowerup.com/215529/amd-radeon-r9-nano-core-configuration-detailed.html

2) Less VRM should mean less BOM. That just the VRM no counting the amount of other smaller chips in nano pcb. FuryX using 6+2 PHASE VRM but Nano using 4+2 only. Potentially means even worse at overclocking than fury X.

Its like saying Myvi with no aircon should be priced higher than normal Myvi with aircon because its a niche market that someone somewhere dont need the aircon. Maybe im salty. Been saving up to get it just to be slap in the face now that it priced similarly with fury X. Now that 1USD~MYR4.2, i should have bought FuryX when it launched and not waiting for this nano.
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Looks like there is too much speculation - the only way is to wait until official information are out. hmm.gif

I think in your case, the Nano is not for you. My point that states that the Nano is a niche product remains standing. tongue.gif
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post Aug 27 2015, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Aug 27 2015, 05:23 PM)
Before this, AMD seems to advertise Nano as cheaper product than Fury X AIO. So, the hype for cheaper air cooled variant of full Fiji builds up......and finally dissipated right after the price is known.
Marketing at its best.....sigh.

The big issue = cant make much revenue by serving niche market segment.
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Any mentions of this?

From what I have seen earlier, the Nano is marketed towards small form factor machines. There's no mention that the Nano is a cheaper alternative. icon_idea.gif
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post Aug 27 2015, 09:03 PM

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Well, this is somewhat unexpected:

http://www.techpowerup.com/215575/amd-also...-treatment.html

950/960 competitor? hmm.gif

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