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SUSlowya
post Sep 10 2016, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(oyching88 @ Sep 10 2016, 12:45 AM)
You are funny enough to use remineralised filter for TDS test.
The filtered water is remineralised, of course the TDS reading is high as mineral is introduced later.
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which part is funny, and which part is reminieralised, and which of the reading stated is higher after filtration?
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post Sep 10 2016, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Sep 10 2016, 10:40 AM)
i think depending on the type of mineral as well. My Aquaphor DWM 101 also has remineralization but shows reading less than 9.
lowya : You can drop by my shop to test smile.gif If u wan to test my RO, i will need to fill up at home and bring to shop.
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no need la.. i didnt have doubt in your product, i just create awareness here and hope more will share their readings.

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post Sep 16 2016, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(szewei84 @ Sep 15 2016, 10:03 AM)
Recommending Amway eSpring Water Treatment System. Also because i'm using and selling it. :-P

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that's the problem, once they get you into the owning and selling part, you would never say a single bad thing such as x10 price of other filters, would u?
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post Sep 21 2016, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Sep 10 2016, 05:28 PM)
i think TDS could be used as a guide to check on the micron filtration, if a filter company claim their filtration is 0.1 micron like mine but TDS reading shows 80pps or 90pps that means may be it is not 0.1 micron. Honestly, i tested Crystal Eco in many customer house and reading shows on average 65 pps.

However, i do believe as what oyching88 said, remineralization could affect TDS reading as well but as tested with my DWM 101 (RO system), reading still low even it has remineralization cartridge. So, depending on what is the mineral added back into the water.
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ppm = 10E-6, microns = 10E-3

ppm is the measure of how many particles there are in a given volume.

microns is a measure of distance.
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post Sep 26 2016, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(exsakai @ Sep 25 2016, 10:09 PM)

Just update to my case, used aquaphor since february (about 7 months) no sign of clogging, water pressure is still reasonable and water taste great, very good product.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3615495/+300
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do u use any outdoor filter? if yes which one?
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post Sep 26 2016, 08:58 PM

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These few days many areas no water, thanks to poorly managed Syabas. Today they came to give free water to residence apologetically.

So decided to use TDS meter to test Syabas free (not for sale) RO Water = 6 ppm

Then, open up SeaHorse RO Bottled Water = 1 ppm

During the shortage of water, if without outdoor filter, when the water returns, do wait for it to flush till clear first, otherwise very fast indoor filter clogged up. Anyone had bad experience with that?

We are still light years away when it comes to clean tap water in Malaysia as compared to Singapore. How sad. If only we have bright people in politics and managements.
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post Sep 26 2016, 09:07 PM

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btw, lets work out per year cost RM/liter for a filter? Since we got many users from different brands...

We could benchmark with say SeaHorse bottled water at RM0.6 for 1.5L i.e. RM0.4/L.

assuming filters need to replace annually, anyone could please contribute 'annual filtration capacity' and 'price of annual ownership' here?

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post Sep 26 2016, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Sep 26 2016, 10:21 PM)
I will assume my house use 5L per day drinking water average out inclusive weekend (since most time we not at home) one year 365 x 5L = RM 730 (using 40 cents per L), my 3M indoor is about RM 400 per replacement -ve the boiling, still worth it. I usually change at interval of 14-15 months

While 3M outdoor RM 400 also, and i used lots more, and I usually chance after 18months.

So that work out around RM 50 per month. Still ok for clean water.
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'annual filtration capacity' can refer to product specs.

and

'cost of annual ownership' include outdoor and indoor filters, include cost of boiling and changing filters etc.

btw, the seahorse RO water can buy in bulk or bigger bottle for cheap probably rm0.3/L. Ofcause to be fair, it need to factor in cost of transportation, however if u order from say Tesco, you already well covered in free delivery.
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post Sep 28 2016, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Sep 27 2016, 09:29 PM)
from my experience, average usage per household (4-5 ppl) is 2500L - 3000L. How i get this estimate? based on how frequent my customers change their cartridge and also my own usage.

If it is 2500L then it will cost RM 1000 per year. Never try seahorse water could it be seamaster instead? but for 60cents 1.5L is very cheap, even tesco water is 90 cents, Spritzer RM 2.85... such a huge price difference
https://eshop.tesco.com.my/groceries/en-GB/...7fY&query=water
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thanks for correction, it's seamaster (my bad), can buy from borong supplier.

If you go for vending machine say 1liter is only 10 or 20 cents only, bring a TDS tester and make sure ppm is below 7 for it to be called true RO water. Otherwise, skip them.
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post Sep 28 2016, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Sep 28 2016, 10:33 AM)
I went to Tesco yesterday to look for 5.5L bottle RO water, cheapest I can find is RM5.99 per bottle.
I'm actually looking for distilled water for my car radiator but don't know where to get it, so no choice have to use RO as replacement.
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make sure it has very 1-6 ppm only.

anything more is not RO water.
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post Sep 29 2016, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Sep 29 2016, 05:58 PM)

Post#748 d_goh needed an eye witness otherwise won't be coming.

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sounds like a backdoor exit aka excuse for not turning up for a confirmed challenge, blame the witness later.

both challenger can record video of water filtration output testing and verify here in forum, that is the real witness, do it or lose the creditability.
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post Sep 30 2016, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(exsakai @ Sep 30 2016, 06:38 AM)
Old condo, no place to install outdoor filter. The water is so dirty here, tap water is yellowish and has iron smell but after aquaphor filter the water became clear and water taste just like mineral water.
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u are saying Aquaphor don't need outdoor filter and even yellowish tap water won't clog it's filters?

then it must have a backwash function, yes?

i am looking for indoor filter with backwash function that can handle the Syabas (shitty water), anyone know of any model that can do that please share.
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post Sep 30 2016, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ Sep 30 2016, 01:52 PM)
in my opinion, outdoor water filter is still necessary.. else the indoor filter cartridges may need to change oftenly..
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some new technology of indoor filters has backwash function, but locally i would like to find out where this is available, for simple reason don't need to install outdoor. With backwash, it doesn't clog up.
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post Oct 1 2016, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Oct 1 2016, 08:17 AM)
Amway filter cannot be clean.  That is why changing outdoor filter to membrane are much better option.
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by membran do you mean indoor filter? what type of membran? RO?
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post Oct 4 2016, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Sep 30 2016, 06:23 PM)
Everything filter will eventually clog, is the capacity that maybe higher.
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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Sep 30 2016, 09:08 PM)
Aquaphor indoor filters do not have backwash function

if requested we could also give a 1 year warranty against clogging, if clog then you need to get a ceramic pre-filter and we will replace the clogged cartridge for FREE. Upto date, nobody claim it from us, looking at exsakai's water quality and yet the filter is still performing well, i am now even confident that Aquaphor is suitable for areas with very poor water quality.

If you are looking for a filter that can handle poor water quality without an outdoor filter, i would suggest Aquaphor Crystal Eco and not RO system.

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Questions regarding your Aquaphor Crystal Eco...

1. what technology it has that prevents clogging without outdoor filters?

2. without outdoor filter you can guarantee by 1-to-1 replacement that no clogging will occurs?

3. may i have the TDS readings (before and after)? users also contribute please.

4. I was told that initial setup is RM1699, replacement filter is RM450, both with 8000L capacity, what contributes to the vast different between initial and replacement cost?
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QUOTE(the s.crib @ Oct 4 2016, 02:07 PM)
Im looking for a cheap undermount water filter in either Selangor or KL. Really cheap ones like RM100 or RM200.

Anyone has idea?
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Culligan from Ace Hardware.
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post Oct 4 2016, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Oct 4 2016, 11:43 AM)
Questions regarding your Aquaphor Crystal Eco...

1. what technology it has that prevents clogging without outdoor filters?

2. without outdoor filter you can guarantee by 1-to-1 replacement that no clogging will occurs?

3. may i have the TDS readings (before and after)? users also contribute please.

4. I was told that initial setup is RM1699, replacement filter is RM450, both with 8000L capacity, what contributes to the vast different between initial and replacement cost?
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Oct 4 2016, 05:24 PM)
For under RM200, this is my DIY 3-stage undermount POU. Cheapo standard 10" housing in series as mentioned by Billy boy with first stage RM4 1micron PP sediment filter, 2nd stage ceramic filter (forgot the price but not expensive) and 3rd stage  is a good quality NSF certified Dalton carbon filter (I think around Rm40 to Rm50).
Maintenance is super cheap due to standard 10" filter.
I use this set up as my secondary POU point for washing and cooking food in the wet kitchen.
For direct from tap drinking water, I use 3M in the dry kitchen.[attachmentid=7680134]
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Thanks for sharing...

Interesting setup you have, where do you buy the housing and respective filters?

Do you have any TDS readings (before and after) for this setup to share?

btw, What level of NSF certification is that Dalton carbon filter?
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post Oct 6 2016, 10:58 AM

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this is for those want super clean RO water without installing any water filter...

SeaMaster selld 6 x 2.7L RO water bottle for RM6 only, for those who don't mind self collect. Cheras or Balakong i think.

That works out to be only RM0.37/L, i doubt can get that rate if use own RO water filter.

beats the hassle of installing any filters, can ask for delivery i think.

So if your filter can't get below RM0.3/L, guess it's not really worth it.
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post Oct 6 2016, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Oct 6 2016, 04:23 PM)
Crystal Eco Drinking water filter cost per L
Replacement cartridge RM 450 / 2500L = RM 0.18

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you forgot to factor in

1. initial purchase cost

2. Outdoor filter cost.

3. clogging cost (1 time clog already not worth it)

Compare 1 year. Lets see.

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