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 Traders Kopitiam! V8

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Boon3
post Oct 27 2015, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Oct 27 2015, 01:51 PM)
Oooo.. a challenge has been issued.

Bring out the popcorn..  drool.gif
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I see fire in the stone. tongue.gif



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post Oct 27 2015, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Oct 27 2015, 01:51 PM)
Oooo.. a challenge has been issued.

Bring out the popcorn..  drool.gif
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Actually I have no idea what you want to do with the popcorn.

Throw them one by one at me?

LOL!

You too have said out clearly the weakness this stock. whistling.gif
With such issues, not call average ah?
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Let's see...

FY12 profit: 95 mil
FY13 profit: 80 mil
FY14 profit: 90 mil
FY15 profit: 80 mil

Is this a sign of profit growing?


Average stocks cannot go up?

Is Ulicorp an average company or a fantastic company?
Stock is multi bag..

Is AirAsia a good or average or lousy company?
Look at the stock.... didn't the stock did a rebound and DOUBLED UP?

In the stock market, any stock can go up.
That's a fact, isn't it?

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So I still don't understand the popcorn la.

Want to feed me ah?

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post Oct 27 2015, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Oct 27 2015, 03:45 PM)
You like oil stocks eh... here are some interesting figures..  wink.gif

On softening demand.. from china .. NOT rolleyes.gif

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On oil supply by USA forever going up..  seems to reach max of what they can squeeze out of existing well rolleyes.gif

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How long can Saudi keep pumping cheap crude? 19% deficit to 2015 budget..  rolleyes.gif

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His hair already wet wet... no thanks to you. laugh.gif

So he no minyak you, he minyak sape?

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post Oct 27 2015, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Oct 27 2015, 06:16 PM)
Hmm.. Uli because of wok, Air Asia because of over sold until single digit PE...  tongue.gif
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FGV go up so much why?

SKPet buy 1.80, now earn how much?



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all stocks can go up one.....
it only depends on when you buy and when it goes up after you buy...... yes?


that is why....
the monkey throw darts ....
also can pick up winners.

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post Oct 28 2015, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Oct 28 2015, 09:58 AM)
If like that ... we should stop picking stocks and hire monkeys to pick for us?  hmm.gif
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Well.. that's exactly the point.

See, you would be focusing on the word 'monkey'..... laugh.gif tongue.gif (lucky I no use other mamals. laugh.gif )


But if you look deeper there's a very simple, basic point.... yes?


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post Oct 28 2015, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 22 2015, 10:07 AM)
gark

Ah Homer boy has enjoyed a nice month eh?

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So if one had bought at 119....
it wasn't that good since Ah Home boi pulled back.....
so anticipating too early.....
not that good....

story now....

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wait and see?



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post Oct 28 2015, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Oct 28 2015, 02:52 PM)
looks to me is like coming down soon.......  yawn.gif
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Certainly very boring.

I can understand your opinion of the stock. smile.gif
Mark it down and then compare your comments in the future.

This is what I will do when I paper trader.
Besides entering my 'fake' entries, I also mark down why.
Then I compare....
and I observe my thinking.....

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post Oct 29 2015, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(lynetnonyma @ Oct 29 2015, 11:53 AM)
So when you posted the chart a few days ago and asked about it, what was your thinking? That it was on the high side but doesn't mean it won't go higher? Did you think it was going to breakout further? Or were you thinking it was too high and would be going lower which it has done past couple of days?
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It depends.

If I was being an aggressive trader...
I would look closely on the trading activity.
Maybe wait for the price to hit 121 before going in.

If I was conservative....
I would wait for the stock to consolidate (like what it is doing now)....
And if price holds till end of the day....
Maybe I might consider grabbing some....

It all depends la......

And most important, I need to have confidence that the stock should trade higher or not.




Pssst. It is tedious to just post what I thinking.
It's not me that is important.....
It is for you to practise and sharpen your paper trades...

If it gets to boring....
I better go shoot some lizards...

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post Oct 29 2015, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(lynetnonyma @ Oct 29 2015, 12:21 PM)
I thought at 1.18 it would go up since QR coming out soon and supposed to be good based on USD factor? But went down instead. But don't know if because of overall market, or people know QR not so good, or its purposely being pushed down before QR....
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The movement actually pretty much standard....
Push up...consolidate...then push up again....
( where you think is best way to skin the stock?)

Did you follow the brief remarks on XOX?
The play on it was clear classic.
An entry at about 12.5 would have been on the money.

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post Oct 30 2015, 06:14 AM

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QUOTE(cooldownguy86 @ Oct 29 2015, 11:02 PM)
homeritz qoq tadak power wor abg boon  tongue.gif  hope tomorrow got some furniture sales  smile.gif  !
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It did manage to register solid double digit earnings growth....
but you have to say that the current expectations were set very high.....

wish you luck!

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post Nov 2 2015, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Nov 1 2015, 06:06 PM)


PSS: I don't own any SKPetro shares now as the fundamentals don't look attractive to me.  sweat.gif
Traded long time ago. But if the price is around 1.50 then will consider entering.  biggrin.gif
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Errrr.....

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it looks to me like it is just consolidating and trading has tightened into a tight range.

well... force yourself to do a paper trade into this stock....

at what price would you buy in?


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post Nov 2 2015, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Nov 2 2015, 09:36 AM)
If to trade... then i que between 2.09 to 2.11 and target for breakout from 2.25 to reach 2.45. Then just ride the way if the price shows further signs of uptrend.

Cut loss around 1.95.
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mark down the exact entry....


ps: too wide the cut loss.
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post Nov 2 2015, 09:44 AM

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http://fortune.com/2013/03/04/the-rise-and...l-of-andy-zaky/

http://www.wsj.com/video/the-rise-and-fall...D775D2B669.html
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post Nov 2 2015, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Nov 2 2015, 09:48 AM)
Ok boss.

Say buy 2k shares at RM2.11 per share.
Cut-loss at RM2.00 (about 5%).
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No need to tell me laaa....
you mark it down and you track yourself....

after your trade is done....
evaluate the trade itself....
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post Nov 2 2015, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(cooldownguy86 @ Nov 2 2015, 12:00 PM)
Good reminder by abg boon smile.gif
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No problem.


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post Nov 3 2015, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Nov 3 2015, 09:54 AM)
Wow Hibiscs falling like a boss since our previous discussion.
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What's the lesson to be learned from this?


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post Nov 3 2015, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Nov 3 2015, 03:41 PM)
1. Learn how to paper trade then study why stock go up n down.

2. Don't always buy cheap stocks that are downtrending as it can go lower and lower.

I remember the last time we were talking about Hibiscs it was around 68c. Lowest today was 25.5c. That's a 62.5% capital wiped out in just one month!  shakehead.gif  shocking.gif
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and oh...

the goreng side.... LOL!

as correctly stated TC_Titan earlier, there is major placement coming up.

It's there... and we know from reading... laugh.gif

it's a 25% placement...

massive....

hence it's understandable, why some can be seduced and reckon that a goreng play might be ON in the near future....

it's normal...

it's one of the theme that some traders use.....

will it be profitable?
my say?
This is not my cuppa....  wink.gif


This would be a good example to be filed under 'trading stocks because expectations the stock will be fried due to massive placement plans'.

Traders do take positions in a stock once they hear about big placement deals.

They love it. wink.gif

In the world of the stock market, agreements are usually made so that the placement takers benefit from taking up placement shares....
So traders buy, trying to gain a position in the stock by buying in early......

well... what are we seeing now?


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post Nov 3 2015, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Nov 3 2015, 04:03 PM)
I see 3 plausible outcomes:

a. Insiders making the stock go lower, so the new investor can enter at a cheaper price at market rate or at fixed price.

b. Insiders themselves together with swing traders trade when the price is lower (e.g if you bought at 25.5c and sell at close to suspended price of 36c = 41.1% return in few mins/hours)

c. The traders who bought during the announcement of the proposed private placement will get slaughtered.
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This is nothing to do with what's happening now but based on the recent discussion.

Remember there was zero fundamental attraction about the stock...
and the one and only one reason to take a position is to attempt to benefit from any goreng activities arising from the share placement.

If not for the share placement, why would anyone want touch this stock? wink.gif

So this is all about understanding the risks.

Risk management is very important.
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post Nov 3 2015, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Nov 3 2015, 04:07 PM)
Yahiko-san, that's the ideal strategy: buy low and sell high, provided the share price does u-turn and go up higher.

If reverse and go down lower, is also possible ma.
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Dude...

if you want to be good, stay focus at all times. smile.gif



buy low and sell high ..... is one misaligned statements in the stock market.


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post Nov 3 2015, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Nov 3 2015, 04:32 PM)
Yes boss, I'm doing ok with what I think is suitable for me.

However, I recently tried a breakout strategy u mentioned last time. Bought VS.  Let's see how things pend out.
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Each strategy/setup will have its risk.
You the user needs to adjust so that you are comfortable with the setup and you know where and when you can and WILL go wrong.

Buy low sell high is sold as an investment gospel.
So often that many times newbies thinking that they could muster these four words, reckon they are already on dunno what advanced level.
There's just so many ways it can and WILL go wrong.



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