he has some points, although some of them might not be solid enough, but at least give some respect to people.

Mirrorless is not bad at all, but again, it's not TS's money. It's pointless to tell him how good a mirrorless is while he realized it too but at the end of the day his main reason of setting up this topic is to get a "good DSLR", not a "good camera".

It's like when you are asking for suggestion of a MPV but people keep telling you to buy a SUV instead. Who's wrong here?

I would suggest the 700D since I tried both Canon and Nikon entry level cameras before and I like Canon more. Not to mention their STM kit lenses are better than Nikon's too based on my experience.

Going by your logic then none of the recommendations here work.

In reality people don't have the time to gauge the size.

If size is really what you say then very simple......

Buy an EOS 1200D

http://www.canon.com.my/personal/products/...languageCode=EN

(RM 1799 SRP, street price should be around RM 1500)

The rest of the money go buy a 3rd party battery grip (no batter nevermind, just want to look big). And get a Nissin 600EX-RT flash.

Voila, everyone will think it's an EOS 1D-X.

Thank you! Finally someone gets my point (and possibly TS's, I think) and I like the analogy. .

Many people aren't aware of mirrorless, that's why the suggestion comes for TS to consider mirrorless because if you take note of many other people who started topics, they're not aware of anything else except SLR.

The suggestion for Mirrorless has its basis on being smaller and lighter, making it less taking on people when it comes to lugging it around.

Furthermore, being of a small nature it is less intimidating when it comes to getting people to pose before it.

i know i know.

but again, read back my words and read back TS's words.

It is not him that wanted to get a DSLR.

It's his principal.

No point convincing someone who's probably totally not understand pros and cons of a dslr/ mirrorless other than how it looks.

why not just help this poor guy to choose between the 3 cameras he listed?

ehhh you do realize that my posting is response to DaddyO's post right? This is a discussion board after all, where counter-opinions are allowed to appear.

It's a good point. BUT I'm pretty sure TS's principal/sponsor only knows the word "DSLR". Imagine if TS tell them, he used the sponsor's money to buy Iphone 6 because he thinks the camera is good enough, TS will get spanked.

I believe the "intimidating" part is when you trying to photograph random strangers, not when they know/anticipate you taking photos of them.

i do. but then you are one of them who suggested the a6000 so I am not only pointing my words to you (sorry if my quote causes misunderstanding).

of course I am not saying that discussion are not allowed, but in my opinion we are going pretty faraway from TS's question to get a DSLR on behalf of his principal.

You do realize that out of the 3 models, only the D3300 is within your RM 2.5k budget, right?

Well the A6000 suggestion was way before the listed models came into the picture.

It's entirely up to TS now on whether the sponsors can accept the A6000.

It's sleek and stylish, it's smaller and has with swivel LCD. need lwliam to share about the AF speed though, if the AF speed is faster than Canon and Nikon entry level then it's a bonus when it comes to photographing events.

No harm TS go back give some feedback to principal, it will show TS did research. If I'm the principal I would be happy with the effort.

Check with lazada online

Eos 700d RM1899
Eos 750d RM2399

A6000 i dont think my pricipal wants that.. But can describe what the advantage.. Maybe for me personal coz i now want to buy small camera .. Just think rx100

This post has been edited by tuahayam: Jun 11 2015, 12:08 AM

http://www.lazada.com.my/import-canon-dslr...ag-1154083.html <=- this one? I have doubts with the warranty, seeing that it's import set.

As for 750D i can't find any that's RM 2399 with lens.

Goldy.. As we have all established, TS doesn't want anything other than DSLR.. Let's leave it at that.

The a6000 can perform admirably at tracking a dirt bike race recently held in/around sepang.. No doubt about it.

I've recently used the 7D mark 1 at a patio dinner event on a 85/1.8. I'm not impressed with its AF locking, granted, the 85/1.8 isn't an outstanding lens to begin with in terms of AF. So using that logic, I'm not sure how would an entry level camera perform if 7D can't really cut it. Disclaimer: I have not used any extra level canon nikon / 7Dm2 recently to make a comparison.

As for the principle, I feel sad for him as he's so tunnel visioned about being only DSLR can get good get images while totally shutting out other better choices out there.

If what others say doesn't swing with you, there's no need to be rude my friend.

Learn to give your thoughts in a respected way, if you want to be respected back yourself.

at the end of the day, and after so much of discussion..

your principal or your co-colleagues who hold the DSLR, looks pro but took back some shitty pictures... most likely the person who bought the camera will get the blame too...

rule of thumb: pictures from DSLR not necessary the best (big sensor means better picture?)... iPhone camera creates wonder too !

This post has been edited by geek8585: Jun 11 2015, 09:02 AM

Ok.. Have talked to my principle.. He agree for my opinion which pick from this thread that dlsr is not best camera but sadly he told me the sponsor has state the money just to buy dlsr.. Buy it or not buy at all.. ..

And for myself.. A6000 or rx100 mk3 is best camera in auto mode.. And its a6000 i must buy lens and flash to ? The price is mk3 is about rm2.5k.. Like the same with a6000.. And which is great in autofocus..

This post has been edited by tuahayam: Jun 11 2015, 09:21 AM

or just buy fuji bridge cam, pro look also mar,
some more can focus from 1 cm to miles away, no dslr can do it...

A6000 kit lens to my eyes does not do the camera much justice. If you not planning to buy better lens for a6000, rx100mkiii (no advice on mk1 or 2) has much better faster lens. Heard that mkiii also have better video performance than a6000 too. Of course some compromise due to the sensor size in terms of bokehness and versatility due to fixed lens. Also depends on ergonomic preference, a6000 is gripper and easier to hand hold. Mkiii evf is a strain to use.

This post has been edited by DaddyO: Jun 11 2015, 09:33 AM

Or go Fuji. Love their jpeg straight out if you not bother with raw.

This post has been edited by DaddyO: Jun 11 2015, 09:31 AM

How much are Fujis? Fall in TS' price range?