Whether notice or not, I believe its the photographer to make it work.

The purpose of the camera and the photographer is to get the shot. Not to gain others respect by wielding a big camera around.

Final results matter

indoor activity, a faster prime always welcome

and shoot nice photo when principal giving speech standing with the rostrum

This post has been edited by BOTAK_WAI: Jun 10 2015, 08:43 PM

“my school has a sponsor for buy a new camera..”

some keywords here...that's school fund. if principal says no means no.

TS just pitch to the person in charge who approve the fund. What TS need to do is just "buy" the camera.

Keyword is no compact camera. Which no one here has so far suggested..

We all photo shooting enthusiasts know how well the a6000 is and we know how well it performs compare to those entry level DSLR.

But TS is on a assignment, instruction given by principal to get a "DSLR".

Unless TS can convince his principal, if not i think a6000 might not suitable. TS's objective is just want to get a suitable camera (not best) and don't want to be blamed from principal if anything goes wrong.

We shall put TS standpoint as the main consideration, just my two cents. And I agree with your previous post, it's all about mindset.

I understand where you're coming from too. But do u really feel the A6000 doesn't convey the sense of 'big' camera when attached with, say, a tele lens? I don't know. Just a curious question.

sure it does, a6000 will looks pro when tele lens and hood attached, but i don't think it can be done with TS budget

You have a point though

Btw, i think best way to convince some one to buy this camera or buy that camera, i think one need to do like that:

1. Compile some photos taken by the shortlisted camera

2. Each photo you write a remark what camera and lens used and how much does it cost.

3. Show these photos to the person who want to buy the camera.

4. Explain to the person when you spend this amount, you only can get this type of result. You want to get that result, you need to spend that amount. Further explain to the person where you need [these equipments] + [skills] for [these type of photos], and you can't achieve [that kind of photo] if you only have [skills] without [these equipments]

Photography is still a subset of design. The following matrix is still applied.

I too recommend A6000 heard very good review about it
And also good low light performance

That's if you pit photographers with big cameras together in one group. Went to a cosplayer convention with my mirrorless camera (and pancake lens), first thing i noticed people generally just ignore me and pass in front of me while shooting. But you will always see people dodging big cameras like nikon/canon even with their sizable kit lens on it.

There are two kinds of photographer. One that need to make people know they are there to take photos and one that are there to be discrete. A6000 or RX100 is kinda like the latter with it's smallish body.

Secondly this if this is meant as school camera, you want the camera to be easily noticed. Camera like Rx100 feels like will get lost somewhere if you misplace it.

Lastly and to me the biggest reason, the number of photos you can shoot with dslr in single battery waaaaayy outnumber mirrorless. You can just let your camera "on" the whole day (lcd off of course) on standby and take a picture in short notice. Sure you can have extra battery on standby but feels like hassle if you happen to be in middle of a crowd.

Of course big bodies like sony A77 also works but the price........

Also, you want to argue and explain so much to the Principal why sony is much better than canon/nikon when at the end of the day the camera does not belong to you? And when at the end of the day, you are just shooting auto mode?

This post has been edited by DaddyO: Jun 10 2015, 10:16 PM

I'm agree with what William said. if a person who has no skill in photography, even he holding a camera doesn't mean that he's a professional. furthermore, generally dslr is heavier than mirrorless camera. so, why not try mirrorless camera, as mirrorless camera can capture dslr quality photo?

I too agreed with the statement. But the camera TS will buy is not for personal use. He's not buying a "travel" camera or for personal use. He's buying it for school use. Beginner camera like nikon 3300 or canon is plenty enough and generally they are not that heavy if TS not going to buy big lenses. Also, for sports use, in near future if require tele lens, nikon/canon tele lens are much easier to find even for second hand.

I really don't mind A6000 if TS decides to buy that in the end as I agreed it's a great camera. But try explaining that to his principal.

This post has been edited by DaddyO: Jun 10 2015, 10:29 PM

Im agree with all you said n im also know mirrorless is the best..

But m principal dont want to hear it.. Coz the sponsor give to my school is to buy dlsr.. Cannot to buy mirrorless or compact .. ..

this DaddyO statement... really like junk statement. like only ppl will respect dslr user instead of mirrorless user. as funny as the @loon1983 - freak

come on lah. I don't own dslr but I did use them before. I know the picture quality is on par between mirrorless and dslr. But different cameras have their own place and purpose.

You can't tell a client that you will be using RX100 mkIII for the wedding shoot, otherwise you get the boot. A6000 paired with big ass lens may get attention but TS is not buying camera for the purpose of using different lens.

This post has been edited by DaddyO: Jun 10 2015, 10:38 PM

few of my friend use mirrorless camera like A6000, A7S, for wedding photography, as well. their artwork are quite outstanding, too

just my opinion, if the camera is capable for user's purpose, why not?

A6000 pair with what big lens (I don't recommend sony a6000 kit lens for wedding cause I checked and it's really meh)? And why compare with A7S since similar size? Also is your friend getting paid as wedding photographer or as friend's favour photographer? Again, I'm not disputing image quality. I'm just offering opinion on public perception on cameras and "personal" opinion on how not to deal with the hassle with TS principal.

Anyway we are getting out of topic so I'm ending here. I believe TS already made up his mind.

This post has been edited by DaddyO: Jun 10 2015, 10:54 PM

Why are you under the impression that his camera has to be noticed?

If you ever photographed an event before, the camera just shoot shoot shoot. You're photographing school kids running on track, they don't have the time to NOTICE your camera.

NOTE : TS said he wants so shoot stuff like 10m - 20m away and all, clearly it's for event coverage. If it was group photos and all, he would be using short focal length and would easily be noticed when want to take photo, for example "Lai lai you one group stand together look here smile 1 2 3 OK kau tim".

School activity coverage is a mixed of both.

And precisely my point. They don't have time to "Notice" your camera. No, not the school kids. The parents, audience and spectators if you happened to be in the crowd. So they just jump in front of your camera and don't care about your existence until you point a big ass camera.

Look I'm not saying small camera is bad. Given TS situation with the principal asking him to buy a camera under school/sponsor budget who most likely think that big camera equals professional and TS recommends him smallish a6000, you want him to get in trouble is it?

If it's TS's own money to buy own camera, I would recommend a6000/Fuji/rx100mk III/panasonic/olympus/etc hands down. You don't have to buy the best of the best for principal/sponsor who don't pixel peep much as long as it looks "good enough" and satisfy their budget.

This post has been edited by DaddyO: Jun 10 2015, 11:19 PM