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 Fixed Deposit Rates In Malaysia V. No.9, Please Read Post#1 and #3

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pearl_white
post Jul 29 2015, 02:28 PM

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Unknown to many, Bank rakyat board rates can be negotiated.

1 year can be had for 4.285% just by asking OTC and there is no minimum amount to get that %. You just have to wait 3 working days, usually lah, for HQ approval.
pearl_white
post Jul 29 2015, 04:26 PM

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BR Jalan Pinang Branch gave me 4.285% for 1 year.

I am too lazy to watch newspapers and see all this 6%, 4.8% and what not promo rates and effective rate is so so only!

and time spend to run to this and to that bank, petrol and time wasted...

BR give less admin headache.
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post Jul 29 2015, 04:53 PM

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you can get it with the minimum amount required for 1 year FD
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post Aug 18 2015, 09:04 AM

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While you guys are running here and there for the best and/or promo rates by wasting petrol, time, parking and etc., which eventually depletes your interest income,

at BR, its 4.285% per annum. Just ask over the counter for "special rate", and they give it to you.

There is no need to waste time buying newspapers, reading all the so called "promo" and what not with step up rates, existing funds, etc etc and end up getting mistreated and/or misinformed.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, 4.285% FROM BR IS STILL UN-BEATEABLE.


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post Aug 18 2015, 09:11 AM

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pidm vs. MOF

Both are same. no difference if there are bail-ins or bail-outs.
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post Aug 18 2015, 09:12 AM

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Really? Because I have BR FD @ 5.0% for 12 months.

How much MBSB pay you? Or you run advertising for them for free?
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post Aug 18 2015, 09:41 AM

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5%? Put in lots of money lah.

But for the many people who want to put in rm1k, 10k, 20k or 50k, 100k, getting 4.285% is a good deal rite?

read : ask OTC. Don't ask, dont get.

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post Aug 18 2015, 02:41 PM

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4.285%. RM1k BR will also entertain!!!

If you cannot get, I really donno what to say. Maybe the counter staff couldn't understand. blink.gif

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post Aug 19 2015, 11:25 AM

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Wow, effectively 3.6% on a 12 months.

Banks should adopt effective rate (12 months) method when selling FD products less than or more than 12 months so that FD holders are properly advised.


QUOTE(bbgoat @ Aug 19 2015, 10:26 AM)
Chased my SCB RM on the late interest for the 15 mth 4.5% FD. He apologized and said already submitted for "manual interest calculation". Why take so long ?

Not all foreign banks have good system in place.  doh.gif First similar FD received interest then why second one cannot ?  shakehead.gif
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post Aug 19 2015, 12:11 PM

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If ppl take up BR's 4.285% p.a., the rate for 15 months would be 5.356%.

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post Aug 19 2015, 12:21 PM

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And I almost forgot, at BR is say you take a > 1 month FD, example...

you put in 100k for 12 months @ 4.285%, by end of 12 months, you would have 4,285.

Lets say, you terminate early at month 6, you will get 1785.42 for 5 months.

BR pays the profits on a monthly basis. Other banks may not give you your interest if you terminate early.

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post Aug 19 2015, 12:58 PM

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well done cherroy, 8.57% for 2 years is nearly correct. rclxm9.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

If you put in 100k on a 4.285% p.a. and roll on to the 2nd year, by end of year 2 you would have: -

1st year 100k = 4,285.
2nd year (104,285 * 4.285%) = 4,469.

Total 4285 + 4469 = 8,754. or 8.754% for 2 years (compounded).

Otherwise, if you do not roll over your interest, it would be,

1st year 100k = 4,285.
2nd year (100k * 4.285%) = 4,285.

4,285 * 2 = 8,570. or 8.570%.

Effective rates are a great tool to highlight how competitive FD products are between banks.

And just to make sure whose who rolleyes.gif cannot differentiate between effective interest rate or nominal interest rate,

effective in the case of the example here is 4.285%.
nominal in the case of the example here is 8.754% or 8.57% depending on the option you take.

In other post, the 4.5% nominal for 15 months yields a 3.6% effective interest.

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post Aug 19 2015, 01:19 PM

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1 month at 3.15%p.a. you forgot interest rates are quoted p.a.

so, if you have 100k and put in 1 month @ 3.15%,

you would get 100k * 3.15% = 3150 p.a.

since it is 1 month and not 12 months, it would approximate to 3150/12 = 262.5.

so, 3.15% is the effective rate, and the nominal rate is 0.2625%.

*Note: I avoided the use of daily rest computation here for simplicity.


QUOTE(haur @ Aug 19 2015, 01:16 PM)
LOL...........
Correction:-
CIMB 1 month 3.15%.
1 year 37.8%!!!!!!!!!!! rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
Not to forget the rollover interest which I'm too lazy to calculate because it should hit 40%......
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post Aug 19 2015, 01:22 PM

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I think it is fair to assume that all rate quoted by any banks in this country or what ever country are always p.a.

If people don't know this, then TOHTTB. sad.gif

QUOTE(cj7lee @ Aug 19 2015, 01:17 PM)
without using the keyword p.a. the calculation can be very misleading sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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post Aug 19 2015, 01:32 PM

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People forget that deposit holders (CASA, FD and what not etc.,) are liabilities to the banks. In the balance sheet, you are categorised under liabilities.

When you are a liability, you are actually not a customer. You are a supplier of capital, that is.

As a supplier chasing a client (i.e. banks or any other financial institutions), it is your responsibility to make sure that you maximise the returns that you are after. Afterall, why should a client incur additional costs from a supplier?

Hence, it is your responsibility maximise the effective interest rates. I am here merely to point the what BR offers. It is up to you to ask for it from the bank. If you cannot, then YOHYTB.

*note : People who take up overdraft facilities, loans (cc, housing, car, personal and etc), are the real customers of the banks. That is why you see alot of the products are quoted @ effective rates. What is not surprising, is that being the customer, banks will call you, suck up to you, give you the best rates even without asking (of course if they can fleece you, they will). As a customer, you don't really have to do anything. biggrin.gif

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post Aug 19 2015, 01:43 PM

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if xx% is quoted as 12 months, 1 year, or p.a., it is effective.

Anything that is not 12 months, 1 year, or p.a., it is nominal because you have to divide by 12 and times the numbers of months.

eg. the step up rates you see in various bank promos....1st 3 months, next 3 months etc etc....

and at the bottom their table, they put effective interest is xx%.


QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 19 2015, 01:35 PM)
Since when FD interest rate got quoted in nominal rate one?  whistling.gif
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post Aug 19 2015, 01:56 PM

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You need to put in alot, and i mean alot of $ to get it.

QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 19 2015, 01:49 PM)
Please guide FD fan club here to get 5% 12 months. Ty.

Many forumers will thank you big time.
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post Aug 19 2015, 02:05 PM

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You are liability mah... tongue.gif

QUOTE(kyenli @ Aug 19 2015, 01:51 PM)
Adoi. Why your RM layan but this is the reply I got from my complaint letter to them. Why different standard?
Dear XXX,

Thank you for your message dated 13th August 2015 with regards to the FD.

Please be advised that the Interest will only be credited on the 15th month upon renewal.

We hope the above clarifies.

Should you require further assistance, you may contact us via our 24-hour customer service line at 1300 888 888 or 03-7711 8888.

We are pleased to be of service.

Thank you for banking with us, and have a pleasant day.

Warm regards,                                 
Latha Maleni Kanniasen
Standard Chartered Bank Malaysia
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pearl_white
post Aug 19 2015, 02:15 PM

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Well you must be right. These banks should be also epic fail quoting effective rates... rclxms.gif

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Maybank 3+3+3 promo

QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 19 2015, 01:52 PM)
wah, really powderful maths here.
Less than 12 month, effective.
More than 12 months, nominal.

May be we should pin this post in the collection of "classic post of lyn".  laugh.gif
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post Aug 19 2015, 02:18 PM

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Adequate for 4.285%. But definately not 5%. smile.gif

QUOTE(Avangelice @ Aug 19 2015, 02:11 PM)
Thanks man. Looks like I jump the gun. Hoping there's better promo for the next year.
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