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Jason
post Jul 13 2015, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(93126668 @ Jul 13 2015, 09:03 AM)
My contractor recommended Daikin GA;

1. What's the difference between Daikin and Daikin GA? (Confusing me)

2. Any comment on Hitachi latest Air Sleep model? The casing looks cool
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1. Daikin = Japan company. GA = Local sales & service. Before Daikin GA, Daikin was represented by some other company. Now all Daikin are Daikin GA.

2. If you want it to LOOK cool. Sure. If you want an air con that will cool you and your room down, Daikin GA is a good choice.


QUOTE(silentsunami @ Jul 13 2015, 03:12 PM)
Pana that's it then, will ask the electrical shop on the extended warranty thingy  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Not worthwhile for the extended warranty. And read the T&C properly. Don't be shocked later if they tell you repair takes up to 90 days blah blah.
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post Oct 11 2015, 03:42 AM

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Here's a quiz, guess which one is the inverter, and which one is not.

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post Oct 15 2015, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(keyser soze @ Oct 15 2015, 04:53 AM)
3 cores=non inverter
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Thanks for the pointer, but check out the EER. Non-inverter has higher EER? Wonder if I am missing something.

The non-inverter is also the latest model, and the inverter one has been around for a while.

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post Nov 19 2015, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(ricstc @ Sep 2 2015, 02:41 PM)
our personal experience

STAY away from Midea ac

Cheap is what you will regret even before the warranty expires. Dont believe, then my bet is that you will be calling for technical support warranty claim within 1 year of your Midea ac purchase

I am not recommending brands here but sharing my many experience with Midea cooling products, and if you dont believe, do a search in the forum about Midea ac, do your due diligence

anyway gl
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Can you tell more about your actual experience with Midea? What is the problem you faced? Cause your post is about cheap, and will need support. How was the support? Did they promise and not deliver?

QUOTE(alchmiya @ Sep 30 2015, 12:19 PM)
Now my problem is solved thanks to Midea. I called them up on Monday and the CS promised me that a technician will contact me within 2 working days. I received a call yesterday from the technician and he came to fix the problem for me this morning FOC. He said that the outdoor unit was not screwed on properly by my installer hence the refrigerant leak. He refilled the gas and tighten the screw. So now my unit is cold again.

Supersound is right that the fault lies with my installer.
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Sounds like very good service, considering it is not the product's fault and they did not charge you for fixing the installer's problem.

How is the air con performance now? Is yours the inverter unit?


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post Dec 18 2015, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(bluebeary @ Dec 1 2015, 04:31 PM)
A general question

I'm buying 5 aircons. 2 inverter, 3 non-inverter.

Panasonic vs Daikin.

I've asked a few. Some said Panasonic better. Some recommended Daikin.

So..... which has less problem and less noisy???
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I'd pick Daikin (GA) every time over Panasonic. It just cools faster. I have 3 Panasonic & 1 York (Daikin).

Panasonic 1HP deluxe inverter model (top of the line) in a smaller bedroom vs York 1HP cheapest model in a bigger bedroom.
Which one cools faster when set to Power/Turbo mode? The York. And the Panasonic 1HP deluxe inverter is really rubbish, it saves electricity but it doesn't cool very well, even when I set in Power mode.

QUOTE(peet @ Dec 6 2015, 11:55 PM)
"Not ok" in what sense? Can explain further? Thanks.
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I wouldn't buy it, due to service and support not as widespread as Panasonic and Daikin (GA).

QUOTE(jern25 @ Dec 18 2015, 04:36 PM)
i look through this model : Mitsubishi 1.5HP DC Inverter + ionizer Air Cond - SRK13YN-S (R410A) in lazada priced at RM1,678.
is this model and the price ok?

http://www.lazada.com.my/mitsubishi-15hp-d...10a-951891.html
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For open space no point to use inverter, better you get a Daikin (GA) non-inverter 2HP. My layout is somewhat similar to yours, I plan to get a 1.5hp non-inverter Daikin or Panasonic with R410A.
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post Dec 18 2015, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(jern25 @ Dec 18 2015, 07:59 PM)
1. May i know what (GA) means? is it the distributor?
2. How big is your living room area?
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1. Yes, the distributor. They used to be York. Some of the current models are actually rebranded York models. The "new" York you see now is from China by Johnson.
2. 3000mm x 4000mm, opens up to dining.
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post Dec 19 2015, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(jern25 @ Dec 18 2015, 08:30 PM)
i see. a bit smaller than mine la.got quoted 1.5HP daikin  FTN15P, the ecoking series, RM1.6k inclusive of installation and 6% GST. ok or not?
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That air con is only RM1259 on Lazada. Installation for RM341? Hmm. You better SEARCH this thread and v1 and v2 about the average installation price. Do your own homework.
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post Feb 5 2016, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(noien @ Feb 5 2016, 12:18 AM)
yup
got my basic non inverter panasonic model for 699 in lazada
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R410A? Got link?


QUOTE(TXSim @ Feb 5 2016, 12:38 AM)
Nope, it's not good. Leaking water after install A/C.
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That's an installation problem, not air con problem, unless the air con is faulty.


QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Feb 5 2016, 10:42 AM)
Its an excuse. The aircond is >5 years old.

Btw, is mitsubishi brand good? Better than Daikin?
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Better in what sense? Daikin (GA, formerly York)

Price, Daikin is cheaper
Cooling capacity, Daikin cools down very fast as it goes full power the moment you turn it on with Turbo mode.
Spare parts, Daikin is GA, plenty of parts all over the place, everybody can service


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post Feb 5 2016, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(noien @ Feb 5 2016, 03:58 PM)
R22  but no stock now. R410a not sold by lazada so price around the same as shop price.
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Thanks for the info. At RM6xx it is a steal. I know R22 air cons are no longer in production, so once they are sold out, its all gone. A bargain to buy now.
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post Feb 25 2016, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Feb 22 2016, 01:07 PM)
Where the hell you get the news that York change name to Daikin?
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York didn't change name to Daikin.

Group Associated used to be the company selling York in Malaysia since the beginning, until recently (like 2~3 years back). They obtained the rights to Daikin in Malaysia, and have since dropped York and started selling Daikin. The early Daikin models sold by GA were actually York air cons with Daikin brand on it.

Now York is back in Malaysia, but made in China and not by GA.

So if you want "York" of yesteryear, buy Daikin.
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post Feb 25 2016, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Feb 25 2016, 08:54 AM)
York origin is from US. While Daikin is japan brand.

GA is the right marketing and distributor for York till last yrs. Where York end the contract.

Now GA obtain the right to market and distribute Daikin aircon.

GA is a marketing and distributor company. Not a manufacturing or anything.

That is why you hear more about daikin than York now as GA push the daikin market aggressive now.

So it is just a ads marketing with all this false word.
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Maybe you need to research who is the parent/owner of GA? rolleyes.gif

1. York did not end the contract to GA, it was GA who ended York.
2. GA is marketing and distributor, but they are fully owned by..... find out yourself.
3. The new York air con are totally not related to the old York air con sold by GA. Apart from the brand.
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post Mar 5 2016, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(ivzh @ Mar 3 2016, 06:43 PM)
Do Daikin with plasma function worth the extra $$?
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No.

QUOTE(shirohamada @ Mar 4 2016, 08:20 PM)
I just found out, my capacitor for AC compressor has been swapped with a cap ayam one. it even says the electrolyte is vegetable oil.
this probably happened during one of the "cleaning" service. I always wondered why this unit always screaming loudly. Had it changed, now it runs smooth.

At the end of the day, lesson learned. Keep an eye on people doing services. This is probably their textbook tactic to get more jobs and steal original caps on unsuspecting customer.
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You need a trustworthy air con man.
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post Apr 16 2016, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(TXSim @ Apr 16 2016, 07:49 PM)
Toshiba and Carrier are not good.

You can consider York, Mitsubishi, LG and Hitachi.

York, Daikin and Acson are the same company.

York and Daikin have new models. Both have different design.

Acson old design but have wallpaper design.
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In the Malaysia market, York today has no relationship to Daikin today.

Stop spreading inaccurate bull.
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post Apr 16 2016, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(raj9181 @ Apr 16 2016, 09:27 PM)
Hi All, I have done a fair bit of research and at the end I got confused. I hope Sifu’s over here could enlighten me. I have few questions so please bear with me. I move into the house almost two years ago and I have done the air-conditioned wiring and concealed r22 piping (1HP) for all the rooms and living room (2.5HP). I have installed my master bedroom with wiring point. I hope I can fix air conditioners from single manufacturer. Now my queries are,-

1. I have not fixed any air-con earlier so do I need to replace the piping if I wish to install a non-inverter r410a? Some articles by daikin and Panasonic mention that I don’t have to replace the piping for certain models. I hope I don’t need to heck the wall to replace the piping.

2. From the reading over here, I understood that I need to replace the piping if I wish to install an inverter unit except for the daikin R22 inverter. Am I correct to say that?
3. I have decided to install an Inverter 1.5 HP air-conditioner in my master bedroom. Between Daikin, York(JC) and Panasonic. Which one do you recommend as some of you stated
• Daikin inverter – noisy and an installer mention that he prefers Panasonic but did not mention why he does not recommend daikin
• Panasonic inverter – Some say the best and some say that the product quality is not great anymore
• York (JC) inverter – I have yet to read any review.
• Any brand of your recommendation where servicing, spare parts would be easy in JB and the quality of the product in your view
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Ask the installer, change the piping if it's necessary. The last thing you want to do is skimp on piping and have issues down the road.

Between Daikin inverter and Panasonic inverter, I will choose Daikin. Reason? Parts are easier to get and cheaper than Panasonic.

For non inverter I will buy Daikin, as it cools down the room faster. Unless the Panasonic is cheaper, then I'll buy it instead.

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post Apr 18 2016, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(katijah @ Apr 18 2016, 03:44 PM)
Panasonic have a very aggressive and commission paid marketing team targeting home owners.

No major hospitals or big shopping buildings use their lifestyle aircon.

  As a regular skater, all the ice skating-rings usually use Daikin or Mitsubishi.
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If you compare Daikin and Mitsubishi in Malaysia, Daikin is a better choice due to cheaper & wide availability of spare parts. Daikin is also cheaper when you buy the air con.

I see no reason to buy the Mitsubishi over the Daikin. Not to say Mitsubishi is bad, just Malaysia market, Daikin is really the cooling king.
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QUOTE(Jeffrey_Yong @ Apr 20 2016, 01:02 PM)
I was offered rm290 for my panasonic css13 SKH invert model from one shop in puchong opp giant.
other shops offered around rm200 for trade in and some do not want it at all. 
I paid rm1868 and it is less few moths old and still under warranty.
Can anybody help me to get better price.
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Why selling? Spoiled? I may be interested. PM me the details
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post Apr 22 2016, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(blurblursam @ Apr 22 2016, 09:24 AM)
Any comment for York 1.5hp inverter?

Yesterday air cond man said for Panasonic & Daikin both 1.5hp inverter out of stock.

Now left York. also limited stock.
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Now hot season.. air con selling like hot cakes.
Current York is not the old York, its by Johnson Controls & made in China.

Personally, if you wanna buy inverter, I'd go for either Panasonic or Daikin. In fact I'll be getting a Daikin 1.5hp inverter within 2 months for my own use, replacing my non-inverter Panasonic 1.5hp (which is very cold by the way), moving it to living room where I use less.

I have 1 Panasonic non-inverter, 1 Panasonic inverter, 1 National non-inverter, 1 old York Cooling King non-inverter. Frankly speaking, the Panasonic non-inverters are cold, but the York non-inverter cools faster than the Panasonic.

The Panasonic inverter is disappointing for me. So after I get the Daikin inverter can do a better comparison.
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QUOTE(whatever06 @ Apr 23 2016, 01:25 PM)
Thanks.
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How about air flow?
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Vs Panasonic. Daikin wins. Hands down!
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QUOTE(Aelnino @ Apr 20 2017, 10:46 PM)
Anyone uses Beko Aircond? How is the quality and after sales services?
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I wouldn't use it. If i win free also I won't install it, probably sell it off. My air con man tells me Daikin & Panasonic safe choices, because plenty of spare parts, and proven over the years in Malaysia.

BTW anybody here used BOTH inverter & non-inverter, and what are your thoughts about inverters?

I've used both a Daikin inverter (the old Daikin, before the current York-Daikin) and the c9pkh top-of-the-line Panasonic 1hp inverter. I PERSONALLY feel inverters are rubbish and a waste of money, cause they are never as cold as the basic cheap air cons --- don't tell me what inverter start up unlike conventional air con la, this is how it works la..i don't care, my whole point of using air con is to be COLD.

The cheapest Daikin non-inverter (York cooling king) 1hp.. cold giler. And my 8~9 years old normal Panasonic 1.5HP also damn cold..
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QUOTE(doremon @ Apr 21 2017, 11:44 AM)
notworthy.gif . Solid point there bro  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(westley0214 @ Apr 21 2017, 11:53 AM)
I have tried both inverter and non-inverter and I must agree with you on the part that inverter air con is not as cold as non inverter's.

However, for me personally it's OK, because the inverter air con somehow gives comfortable cooling, instead of "sharp cooling" that non-inverter air con does. Now I already got used to it, so both also OK for me.
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Glad to know my observation is accurate. Yes, its a personal preference. Cause I'm always hot brows.gif so I need the sejuk gila feeling.

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