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TSHyeoshinX
post Jun 4 2015, 11:19 AM, updated 11y ago

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Hi guys,

I've been experiencing some discomfort on my shoulder during pushing exercises, mainly when i do overhead DB presses and bench presses. I believe I might have tweaked or sprained my shoulder.

Who would you guys recommend me to go see - an osteopath or physiotherapist? Which would be a better choice to go consult with my possible injury?
todak
post Jun 4 2015, 12:08 PM

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Sounds like the beginning of shoulder impingement, is it just on one shoulder?
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post Jun 4 2015, 12:17 PM

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Yes, just on one shoulder.

Which would be the better person to talk to regarding this possible impingement?

This post has been edited by HyeoshinX: Jun 4 2015, 12:24 PM
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post Jun 4 2015, 12:36 PM

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I had the same problem a few months back. I started with a "sensation" around my right front delt area which gradually grew into a constant pain especially if I lift my hand straight up.

I did my research on the internet and realized that I probably had shoulder impingement due to the bench and overhead presses.

http://physioworks.com.au/injuries-conditi...uff-impingement

You can search youtube for videos on how to test yourself if you have this condition.

For myself, I didn't see anyone for treatment. I just took about 2-3 weeks off from gym and after I go back to the gym I avoid any pressing movements for 2-3 weeks.

I started doing a lot of these exercises before any gym session.

http://www.sportsinjuryclinic.net/sport-in...drome-exercises

The pain gradually lessen and disappeared after a while and I restarted the pressing exercises in my workouts as per usual.

The important thing is to strengthen the suprasinatus muscle group. I now do the internal/external rotation exercise with cables after every shoulder session and I don't have any more shoulder problems.


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post Jun 4 2015, 12:47 PM

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I have shoulder injury too due to bench pressing. Now the pain is lesser and still happen sometimes even though i've rested for weeks and did lots of stretches & shoulder exercises. Can no longer do deep dips with weights and can't do this :-

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post Jun 4 2015, 12:48 PM

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i too am having the same problem now sad.gif
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post Jun 4 2015, 01:17 PM

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Empty can test, can do it on your own

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjHOqydDhxo


Internal/External rotation Exercises

Cables https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lU8A9UR4s8

DBs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tijDtTzNdu8



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post Jun 4 2015, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(todak @ Jun 4 2015, 01:17 PM)
Empty can test, can do it on your own

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjHOqydDhxo
Internal/External rotation Exercises

Cables  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lU8A9UR4s8

DBs      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tijDtTzNdu8
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That's what I been doing for months with additional this :-


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post Jun 4 2015, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(todak @ Jun 4 2015, 01:17 PM)
Empty can test, can do it on your own

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjHOqydDhxo
Internal/External rotation Exercises

Cables  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lU8A9UR4s8

DBs      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tijDtTzNdu8
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Holy sh- There was a small snap snap sound when i do the external rotation. shocking.gif
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post Jun 5 2015, 11:49 AM

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Pops in your shoulder is quite normal especially if you haven't warmup properly I think

I recommend doing the ext/int exercises everyday if you have shoulder impingement until your shoulder is pain free.

Btw, I'm not an expert or anything, just giving my opinion based on my own experience. smile.gif
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QUOTE(todak @ Jun 5 2015, 11:49 AM)
Pops in your shoulder is quite normal especially if you haven't warmup properly I think

I recommend doing the ext/int exercises everyday if you have shoulder impingement until your shoulder is pain free.

Btw, I'm not an expert or anything, just giving my opinion based on my own experience. smile.gif
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did that ext/int rotation for a while. still have some 'catch' with my ROM when i db/bb bench on my right shoulder. i have to learn to retract my scapular to get the load off my shoulder to avoid pain.

taking 30 mins to warm up helps a lot too for me. uhuhuh getting old.
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QUOTE(HyeoshinX @ Jun 4 2015, 11:19 AM)
Hi guys,

I've been experiencing some discomfort on my shoulder during pushing exercises, mainly when i do overhead DB presses and bench presses. I believe I might have tweaked or sprained my shoulder.

Who would you guys recommend me to go see - an osteopath or physiotherapist? Which would be a better choice to go consult with my possible injury?
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Tell us how you warm up. Also take a week off, go with lighter weights and see if the pain recurs. If the pain is still very intense then maybe you seek professional help.

Is your form on point?
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post Jun 5 2015, 05:52 PM

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I went to see a physio today, his diagnostic is that its shoulder impingement. Some of the causes are due to poor posture and tightness in the pecs causing my shoulder to round forwards (and also the core back muscles not being able to "pull" the shoulders back).

Will take some time off weights for the time being. Try to improve posture and work to activate my core back muscles more to help put the ball of the shoulder back in place.
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post Jun 5 2015, 07:21 PM

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I am a hunchedback since childhood. Even now I have kyphsosis and my shoulders are rolled foward 24-7 my whole life.

However I never had any shoulder issues ever.
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Everyone is built differently. But its good to keep your posture in mind as to not have any issues with any biomechanic problems in the future. icon_rolleyes.gif

Mine is still in the early stages of impingement. It's not pain or sore or anything, but I can feel a slight pinch sometimes when I do any overhead movements (it's has been bugging me). Better to sort things out now before it gets any worse... unsure.gif

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QUOTE(Armesh @ Jun 5 2015, 07:21 PM)
I am a hunchedback since childhood. Even now I have kyphsosis and my shoulders are rolled foward 24-7 my whole life.

However I never had any shoulder issues ever.
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give yourself some time. wait for the chest and front delt to fill up and you'll have it.
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QUOTE(HyeoshinX @ Jun 5 2015, 05:52 PM)
I went to see a physio today, his diagnostic is that its shoulder impingement. Some of the causes are due to poor posture and tightness in the pecs causing my shoulder to round forwards (and also the core back muscles not being able to "pull" the shoulders back).

Will take some time off weights for the time being. Try to improve posture and work to activate my core back muscles more to help put the ball of the shoulder back in place.
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From what I remember, shoulder impingement in bodybuilders is caused by combination of bench press and vertical press. Too much bench presses makes your shoulder to round forward, That in itself does not cause the impingement. When you do overhead presses, the shoulder rounding causes the small suprasinatus mucles to rub/catch against other muscles causing it to be inflammed and causing the pain.

To balance the shoulder rounding, you have to increase upper back and rear delt exercises in your routines to "pull back" your shoulders.


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post Jun 5 2015, 10:20 PM

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http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.p...#post1266579671

For those who interested/concern, this is a postural routine written by someone experienced. Run the kyphosis routine which cut off all chest exercise and increase a lot upper back and rear delt work. Do bulk while running this routine as you are trying to build muscle at those lagging part.
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QUOTE(todak @ Jun 5 2015, 10:12 PM)
From what I remember, shoulder impingement in bodybuilders is caused by combination of bench press and vertical press. Too much bench presses makes your shoulder to round forward, That in itself does not cause the impingement. When you do overhead presses, the shoulder rounding causes the small suprasinatus mucles to rub/catch against other muscles causing it to be inflammed and causing the pain.

To balance the shoulder rounding, you have to increase upper back and rear delt exercises in your routines to "pull back" your shoulders.
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QUOTE(-ccy- @ Jun 5 2015, 10:20 PM)
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.p...#post1266579671

For those who interested/concern, this is a postural routine written by someone experienced. Run the kyphosis routine which cut off all chest exercise and increase a lot upper back and rear delt work. Do bulk while running this routine as you are trying to build muscle at those lagging part.
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Very informational posts thumbup.gif Ran the kyphosis test. I have slight kyphosis. sad.gif
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post Jun 6 2015, 01:34 PM

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I always do my rear delt flies and keep my shoulder development balanced. Also keep my back more or equally developed as much as my chest.

Just have bad kypsosis/hunceback since forever.

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