Investment SETIA ECOHILL (VERSION 13A) [Owner's Thread], An Inspiring Eco Township in Semenyih
Investment SETIA ECOHILL (VERSION 13A) [Owner's Thread], An Inspiring Eco Township in Semenyih
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May 26 2015, 01:54 PM
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Wow very nice bro!
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May 26 2015, 06:04 PM
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QUOTE(samkps @ May 26 2015, 03:01 PM) Lol.. PS2 no where near to Ecohill... Totally different grade... Yes bro, price also different grade lo! Ecohill is about same level as EcoMajestic... I wonder why sales of Bartonia still slow if the landscaping is so nice in SEH? |
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May 26 2015, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(samkps @ May 26 2015, 07:08 PM) I think not because of competition. From my perception, Bartonia slow sales due to 2 main factors. First, the distance between apartment to Bartonia is still not clear, privacy issue may arise. Second, Bartonia also close to religious center and it maybe not the preference for majority people to stay close to the religious center. I maybe wrong though.. I agree with your observations bro, but there are also quite many units that are facing Bellucia which are unsold, furthermore the low cost apartments are located next to Phase 1, nt Bartonia. The ones next to Bartonia are medium cost right?I also found out that among the 3 types of DSL in Phase 2, Bartonia is on the lowest ground - I tot the more expensive the DSL, the higher it will be located? This one terbalik oredi? |
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May 26 2015, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE(samkps @ May 26 2015, 07:28 PM) Be it low cost or medium cost, no landed owner like their house facing an apartment which is higher that could incur the privacy issue. Yeah, it seems like Bartonia is at the lower ground compare to Begonia, Bellucia, just slightly slanted, not really obvious. To me, it is OK if the back of my DSL is facing the high rise developments, not the front portion. Furthermore, Bartonia is the furthest away from the Persiaran Ecohill Timur which in future will have very heavy traffic! That is why SPS launch the cheapear P1 & 2 first that are located next to this road.Though Bartonia seems to be highest price, but in terms of psf buildup price, they are cheapest. Begonia and Bartonia differ by 30k if not mistaken, but Bartonia BU is 150 sqf higher. I think wrong strategy from SPS - they should place the high rise developments next to this road since it is priced lower and the DSLs behind it ie both the DSLs and high rise should exchange places - then to me this will be almost perfect! This post has been edited by BRE: May 26 2015, 06:37 PM |
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May 28 2015, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(ong_mrp @ May 27 2015, 11:49 PM) Bartonia still selling at 613K nett with free S&P & loan legal fees and MOT, so I dont think can sell at 615K bro since Bartonia has bigger b/up, maybe 560K+ can la.This post has been edited by BRE: May 28 2015, 11:43 AM |
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May 28 2015, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(samkps @ May 28 2015, 04:54 PM) Well, Argentea you can move in within 2 months time but Bartonia you still need to wait for another 1.5 years.. Depends on the buyer's urgency. Furthomore, Argentea units don't have to worriy the possible issues that may impose to Bartonia units.. Bro, what are the possible issues you mentioned that Bartonia units may face that Argentea units need not worry about? Can elaborate further pls? For subsale purchase of Argentea, buyers also dont enjoy the free MOT, S&P and loan legal fees, which may total up to 20K+ that Bartonia unit owners will enjoy from SPS. This post has been edited by BRE: May 28 2015, 05:19 PM |
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May 29 2015, 08:47 AM
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QUOTE(samkps @ May 28 2015, 11:59 PM) Yes, I agree on the religious centre issue bro but Argentea is also located near the proposed high rise bldgs right?Definitely those that want to move in asap should grab a unit in Argentea as Bartonia need to wait another 2 years. |
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May 29 2015, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(treehill @ May 29 2015, 11:11 AM) Is near to apartment but at least it is further in terms of distance.... also including the waterway. The one that face the waterway is not Argentea but is Aquatilis. Argentea is 3 rows behind Aquatilis. Being further away from the apartments is good bro but that means it is nearer to Persiaran Ecohill Timur as compared with Bartonia where the traffic will be heavy in the future once the link is opened! This post has been edited by BRE: May 29 2015, 10:35 AM |
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Jun 1 2015, 07:51 AM
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Bro, is this Grandlis the same as the Horizon Residence? Banner says HR is opened for registration.
SA told me the row of show units next to the sales office will be demolised and will be left empty but she is not sure what will happen to the empty land in the future. Hopefully it will be turned into a park? |
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Jun 1 2015, 07:53 AM
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QUOTE(treehill @ May 30 2015, 05:53 PM) Just now wanted to do a site visit but the guard not allowed. After make my TNB payment, I drive out and park at the road side to see see. Like that also the guard followed me and asked me to go. Crazy...: That's what I dislike bro, Bartonia will be at the lowest end even though it is the most expensive! Anyway, my observation is that the first row seems to be 2-3 feet higher than the 2nd row... Seems like the more behind you are the more lowest it will be. Also, some of the corner lot design is a it different as well... End lot from pics can't tell actually is 15 feet but just now see with own eyes it doesn't looks like 15 feet The road in between house 1 also quite big as well. I think got 30 feet... Can park 2 cars at the side and still can 1 car pass thru the middle. |
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Jun 1 2015, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(samkps @ Jun 1 2015, 11:24 AM) As far I can see, the land is slightly slanted, not to say you can see a very clear slope difference.. As bro treehill said, 1st row seems to be 2-3 feet higher than 2nd row, so the last row of Bartonia will be around at least 6 feet lower than the 1st row of DSLs facing Persiaran Ecohill Timur? Nevertheless, wait till P1 VP, then we can see how significant it could be.. |
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Jun 1 2015, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE(samkps @ Jun 1 2015, 11:42 AM) This is the view of 20 x 70 plot of land from chopper. I am not sure whether it is angle problem, but I really can't see a very distinctive difference in term height... As a matter of fact, the pilosa, pistia plot before piling seems abit higher even.. Nevertheless, site structure may change though... Bro, the SA can check the height from their info. The SA did confirm that Bartonia is on lower land compared with the other 2 DSLs, but whether it is 6ft or more got to get the SA to double confirm.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIb5h8bjRmw |
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Jun 1 2015, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE(samkps @ Jun 1 2015, 11:31 AM) As at 1pm yesterday, I also observe the similar sales chart.. Bartonia almost 50% unsold bro? I tot lesser than that based on the sales chart when I went to their sales office last week? Begonia - not shown anymore, most likely sold out, total units: 48 Bellucia - left 2 units, total units: 31 Bartonia - left 23 units, total units: 48 Saraca - left 7 units, total units 91 I presume after the Marathon event and opening of Lekas Eohill link, sales will be boosted up again.. If interested, perhaps need act fast... |
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Jun 1 2015, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE(Ma6 @ Jun 1 2015, 02:02 PM) BRE gor, suppose that @treehill is right. Taking the house footprint as 70' and backlane as 15', then rise over run from front to front is 2/(70+70+15) ~ 1.3' over 100' or an elevation of 0.7 degree. I think I can live with that. Bro, dont really understand your calculation leh! Can elaborate further? |
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Jun 1 2015, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE(samkps @ Jun 1 2015, 03:09 PM) I presume bro Ma6 means is don't only consider about the 2 feet height, need to consider about the length as well.. If taking 2 feet rise over a 155 feet length, using simple trigonometry function, it gives you about 0.74 degree of inclination.. Bro, the way I see it is that if the 1st row of DSLs facing Ecohill Timur is 2 ft higher than the 2nd & 3rd row of houses, and the 2nd & 3rd row of DSLs are higher than the 4th & 5th row of DSLs by 2 feet also, so 1st row DSLs will be higher than the 4th/5th row of DSLs by total 4 ft right???For comparison, staircase inclination normally ~ 30 degree, that's mean the slant actually ~ 40 times smaller than the normal staircase.. |
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Jun 1 2015, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE(treehill @ Jun 1 2015, 03:34 PM) Wondering why developers dont want to make the land even... More costly or is nicer to see more houses when u standing in front or near the guard house? To facilitate water flow I guess? If land all flat & even there will be stagnant water that will rise to dengue problems? |
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Jun 1 2015, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE(samkps @ Jun 1 2015, 04:37 PM) Gutter system can have its own inclination, don't need to have whole plot of land to accommodate it.. Developers dont rely on gutter system only bro, a very clear example is PS2's built & sell houses, every 3-4 DSLs, the next 3-4 DSls will be lower & it goes on repeating for all the DSLs, so you see one end of the DSLs very much higher than the other end. MKH could have just flatten the land but they didnt do so. |
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Jun 1 2015, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(samkps @ Jun 1 2015, 04:33 PM) Yeah, even the height is differnt, the length will be different as well.. the inclination angle still the same.. Yeah bro, I think have to go to the site to see the difference. Can see the difference very clearly when u stand at the lane between 2 end lots with no land - the DSLs with higher land in front & DSLs behind on lower land, can see the land sloping towards lower land from the higher land.Nevertheless, I never been to site, so i am not 100% sure. My perception is even the last row is lower than 1st row, it doesn't will not makes us feel distintly different, because they are seperated by a very large distance.. won't feel so drastically.. You may need to go inside the site to feel it, can't just rely on the figure.. |
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Jun 1 2015, 05:28 PM
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Jun 1 2015, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE(robert82 @ Jun 1 2015, 04:45 PM) Bro, if your unit is facing Persiaran Ecohill Timur, then yours is at the highest point compared to those DSLs facing the apartments, which is at the lowest point.SA told me they can check whether your unit is higher than your neigbours - front, back, left & right! This post has been edited by BRE: Jun 1 2015, 05:30 PM |
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