Actually after discuss with my other friends, we all agreed that immortal 3 should be like this:

1. Either Super Saiyan 2 Invoker hair OR Golden Zeus Lightning should be the VeryRare/ExtremelyRare category

2. Pale blue normal Righteous Lightning should be the Regular Immortal to introduce Zeus cosmetics to everyone, and it only modifies the Bolt and ambient particles.

3. Suggest that Regular Gyro/Golden Gyro should be modifying Flak Cannon instead of Rocket Barrage, as the current ones are quite shitty as in:
- Rocket barrage particle change not really noticeable and the sound is the only differences.
- Due to the RB's short range, in order to be able enjoy the particles effect, players have to risk their Gyro and get near to enemy as possible.
+ Suggestion to change Flak Cannon ==> Turn Flak Cannon into Flak Laster(Faint normal blue laser/Golden Laser will be pointing to all the targets in range, and fading off slowly)

4. Lanaya Immortal can live without mixing her own pinkish psi blade with the Golden particles from the immortal.

5. Golden Frondilo Upgrade should be made available to all high leveled Compendium Owner instead from the chest.

I thought this pre-order only limited to TI5 real ticket holders only? Cause need to bind your account to ticket ID?

so now the wins with bots + cheats enabled still working?

Yes I feel you bro, now working but mind cant wait to get back and watch the replay!~

Why Mushi let Ohaiyo take QOP... throwing the draft...

Ember this hero so many weakness and easy to counter...

Wrong post***

This post has been edited by air: Jul 29 2015, 10:40 PM

Haiz, their hero not much synergy also, WK + LC baru power, why WK + SF???

By hero nature:

WK lacking attack speed and mobility, but STR growth and damage good
LC lacking consistent lifeleech, but has insane attackspeed + strong dispel in 1 imba spell.
LC can dispel DK stun on WK, helping WK destroy SB and Gyro in a very short time, 130 attack speed is very imba when WK got his own mjolnir/SNY/basher/dagger.

Both of them can tank at the front decently.

With ION shell on WK, WK can dive in and destroy any non-shallow graved enemy at very early game with a dagger(even shallow graved enemy got risky of dying after effect wear off.)

4kMMR pub or not, its very important to understand the hero nature and its synergy between other heroes.

I duno la, but picking SF on 2nd turn, is pretty dumb to me, cause everyone will definitely interrupt SF chain raze as possible during team fight. This is why ES and SB was pick to make SF feed easily. ES do the long range interruption, SB do the anti-bkb bash. Got it?

I duno what mushi trying to do with Support naga, but its obviously not enough to hold against dazzle-gyro-DK combo, even picking Avernus is way better than Naga. I guess you haven face LC + Avernus + WK combo before.

On the other hand, VP does think about hero skills synergy when drafting, from ES long range stun, up to mid-range DK stun, to melee charging SB stun, to punch thru WK defense and reach to lina and SF easily.

Don't get me wrong, I am still a fanatic supporter of Mushi and Ohaiyo, but the stupid drafting of Fnatic like this, I can only say they are just playing 30-40% of their original capability due to stress caused by kecik + Johnny from earlier games.

Buying glimmer cape on Lina instead of dagger, Seriously?
Picking SF on 2nd pick, Seriously?
Expect WK tank front without insurance against Dazzle + Gyro, Seriously?
Pick Naga 1st, facing ES at 3rd pick, still using Naga as support instead of Radiance pusher, Seriously?

6k mmr aside, its facts that their drafting choice made under a lot of stress of chain-losing, but how well they can handle the stress shows the level between pro teams.

During the playoffs since last week, been arguing with my dota kaki that, Fnatic got Mushi/Kyxy/Ohaiyo around, got chance to win, but in the end, as my friend said, all past TI5 winners and runner-up share a similar point: their teams have good supporters. Sadly not Fnatic this time.

95% of them never won a tournament cause not everyone is lucky enough to have a semi-permanent team roster who can actually discuss and going for tournament in long term basis.(a lot of effort in searching/forming team but no result)

I have seen amateur players played much better than some professionals. Being able to be picked and play dota2 in International level, is not really relying on their skills alone, there are a lot of factors working behind before a team actually can get to TI5 let alone win as no.1.

If 95% of them able to won a tournament prize more than RM500 by simply playing dota seriously, you still think those so-called pro teams can still cari makan?

Thus, 95% of them can only put their hopes/desire to win TI5 on this team. Got it?

P.S.: your post is flaming the remaining 95% to stfu and keep polishing shoes for professional team, this practice is not really healthy and it does not contribute to the discussion.

lel seriously or just kidding???

How long it takes to reach the level that he can overwhelm S4 or other pro mid/offlane players?

Mushi already at that level, so we expect Mushi to give up his main role which he is obviously super-imba-talented(and tons of effort spent) and be a support?(support is important too).

Unless Team Malaysia can really find a stable sponsor, otherwise, Mushi have to keep showcase his imba skills to keep his team going. From what I feel so far, he still cant afford give up his role to a player who need time to refine his position as a mid.

Aui 's Skywrath carrying gem 0 death... Salute...

Depend on what kind of contract they signed then...

Aui_2000 definitely will get his share of Ti5 prize from EG...

Since from the beginning, his mines auto-exploded after destroyed, is far too imba for even range heroes.

Adding de-fusing mines to Culling Blade is just a sensible move. At least, mines now is not untouchable for melee heroes.

1. By halving the mana cost and cooldown of Land Mines, Techies can effectively cover more lanes and spend less time to wait CD/mana at same spot which is very risky to some gankers.

2. a lot of ppl call this as nerf cause still unable to accept and adapt this techies buff.

3. Lets don't forget, remote mines are deadly as usual. It still doesnt change the fact that, a lot of wards money spent for countering techies though.


Personally I never played techies, but everytime my melee heroes counterpicked by a old-version techies, I feel hopeless and feel discouraged to even play/finish the game... now at least I can do something on the mines even if I have to spend wards money...

Pity those toxic players instead of hating them, and glad that they are testing your patience and observation to be a better person.

Terrorblade is hardcore ganker, I stressed on this point since almost 1 year ago, but no one listen and laugh at my ATOS-build TB.

Even without the 6.85 patch, TB's reflection is a super killer + lane control spell... ATOS is all he need as first core item he need as effective ganker, Vitality booster set his super low HP back to regular amount nicely.

Currently, they way I use TB as ganker/nuker, doesnt involve image at all until very late game, as his image is very fragile even with 1500++hp (425% damage taken)

Before 6.85:

my way is Vita => ATOS ==> 1000 range with 4 sec disable(10 sec cd), then attack animation cancelling to get near follow up with short range reflection. TB is belong to nuker type instead of support with tons of disable. So walking with AOE stunners is definitely can OWN the enemies gao gao.

After 6.85:

Even more powerful since his reflection now is 900 AOE based with 100% image damage.

The moment TB got Vitality booster + tread, he is very hard to kill due to Sunder. ATOS is an easy farmed core items for his Metamorphosis(early game super high damage nuking skill + toweer razer)

This post has been edited by air: Sep 29 2015, 02:55 PM

Basically since 6.84 and now, TB can forget about lvling his conjure image until lvl 16. 425% damage is just plain disgustingly fragile.

Most imba buff for TB ==> 500+ range Sunder.

Most balanced adjustment for TB => -25 movement speed for Metamorph (too imba if without MSPD penalty, with ATOS)

Everytime I play TB, I always need to mention I am not playing TB as carry... Geez

Sadly I don't have time to pump my MMR to 8k, for my further persuasion.

This post has been edited by air: Sep 29 2015, 03:18 PM

If Zeus => highest starting spell damage hero;

then TB => Highest starting right click nuking damage hero;

Both of them need mobility/disable items to own early-mid game instead of late game scaling items unless very very late game

TB with SNY => Secondary pusher cause low HP and rely on right click without disable to hold ground, unlike DK. But mobility wise is good enough as chaser.