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post Jun 19 2008, 12:24 PM

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weeeeeeeeee ok so i am here to ask my questions... if you guys dont mind... =)

how did you get your jobs? since most of the ads are for singaporeans and singapore PRs... do you all have PR actually?
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post Jun 19 2008, 12:42 PM

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oh so you can only apply directly though companies and not going through agents?
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post Jun 19 2008, 02:30 PM

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oh ok thanks for that... how's the banking industry there...

i am currently in banking for about 2 years... so hoping to get into the banks as well... looking at foreign investment banks...
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post Jun 19 2008, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(seantang @ Jun 19 2008, 02:40 PM)
If banking's your field, Singapore's the place for you. It's the biggest banking center in Asia outside HK and Tokyo.

It also depends on your field of expertise as well. Foreign investment banks tends to be in wealth mgt, corporate finance, structured finance, back room etc. And the ads for these jobs that I've seen are usually at the AVP level and above ($120,000-160,000 p.a. and above), but I guess there's always a need for soldiers.

Go to the careers sections on their websites and apply from there. All banks have very well developed career sites.
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I KNOW MAN!!! tell me about it... i have been looking at AVP and VP levels... i was like... damn... well i am actually interested in private wealth managament...
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post Jun 19 2008, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(seantang @ Jun 19 2008, 02:44 PM)
My feeling is that there are very few quotas, if any, for professional services (PMET), and almost none for labour intensive industries like manufacturing and electronics.

And regardless of any quotas, the bureaucrats always deal with applications on a case by case basis.


Added on June 19, 2008, 2:47 pm
Have you done any wealth mgt at all in Malaysia? Years of experience? Portfolio size?
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hmmm... i havent got anything in managing them... i am now in goldman sachs melbourne in the private wealth management operations, in the custodian... hoping to move to actual funds management... but not sure how is the route like?
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post Jun 19 2008, 04:11 PM

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hey seantang, are you in banking industry?

by the way... "No harm applying early. What's the worse that can happen except wasting some stamps?" does it mean that you dont need to pay anything to apply? then i assume the immigration is so busy everyday just to open millions of junk mails...
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post Jun 19 2008, 05:10 PM

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no lar what i am thinking is since it's free then people just apply for fun only lar dont care whether can get or not... just like gambling with the luck only...

coz we paid 2k just for the application to be au pr... so i thought it would at least cost something to get sg pr too, if not much...

ah ok... finance... so is it fun in finance? finance in a bank yea?
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post Jun 19 2008, 05:21 PM

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but do you think that it will become too many people there?

ok so in order to increase your chance of employment by getting a sg pr... just simply get a job in sg then apply for ep... then just apply for the pr... then once get the pr then start looking for next better jobs...
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post Jun 19 2008, 06:13 PM

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ok so you still wish to retire in malaysia?

ah? so an EP is actually tied to the company and not some sort of like working visa for the individual ar?

ah... ok sounds like i should start planning my sg life soon...
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post Jun 19 2008, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(seantang @ Jun 19 2008, 07:23 PM)
And you can't spend on any luxuries.
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eh i thought people go to sg to buy luxury goods, they are cheaper there and more affordable if you earn there...

QUOTE(J(o)y @ Jun 19 2008, 09:29 PM)
Is the 1+1 unit only available in ur area there? Meaning other areas will be at least 2+1, with one room lock rite?
I think SGD1.1K is very cheap. Will target ur area to stay, when i get a job in SIngapore, hopefully soon.


Added on June 19, 2008, 9:36 pm


I think if u already got a job there, there's no benefit in getting PR, unless u thinking of jumping jobs so soon.

PR means cpf of 21%!!!, 1/4 of your salary gone!!!
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my friends rent a room in this flat... and the rental is already sgd1k...
also... what does the PR thing you mean? what is CPF of 21%? 1/4 of salary gone?
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post Jun 20 2008, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Jun 19 2008, 10:47 PM)
Girl, let's say a Gucci bag cost you RM2k here in Malaysia; but it cost you S$1k in Singapore. But then ask yourself, do you wish to buy luxury goods here in SG? I for one just come here to work the hell out of me and bring a guni sack of SGD back to Malaysia. Singapore is my gold mine for now tongue.gif
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WOOOOHHOOOOO!! that's my main purpose to work in sg man!! i am happily spending my AUD1k on bags when i earn AUD3k but i dont see myself earning enough to spend on a bag worth RM3k when i earn RM3k... and i at least know that i can still buy a bag for SGD1.5k when i earn SGD3k...

QUOTE(jimmy79 @ Jun 20 2008, 08:47 AM)
FYI, normally PR is not deducted 20% on the first year, there is 3 kind of rate and normally employer practice graduated rate which is

1) First Year, 5%
2) Second Year 15%
3) Third Year 20%.

http://mycpf.cpf.gov.sg/Employers/Gen-Info...n-Rates-SPR.htm

If you are earning 2000, in msia you take back home with 1780, even you pay 20% in sg will be like 1600 and is only 180 different. With the power of sg currency, actually you still have more buying power.

20% is ceiling on 4500. Mean as long as you earn more than 4500, the CPF you pay is only 900. So once you get more than 4500, you will have more cash on hand.
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well, if you are not planning to retire in sg, then there is no point having the EPF or whatsoever... and if you are earning that much, i bet you can save up or make enough investment that you can retire happily even WITHOUT the EPF...

i personally dont like EPF... as i think the return is too low, after inflation and all... and also you dont get to use the money when you need it... then you will have to loan it somewhere else and then paying them interests and all... investing in EPF sometimes is making a loss... but if it's for security wise, i think investing in a property can give you more security though...

that's what i think... i might have a WEIRD thinking... but... well...
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post Jun 20 2008, 01:11 PM

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that's right, i dont see a point why you saving up the money for if you dont spend it... it's like torturing yourself for not saving up and then no rewards? that doesnt sound right to me...
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post Jun 20 2008, 01:21 PM

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i guess the purpose of saving up money is to be financially independent to make your life HAPPY... no matter how you gonna spend your money, as we are all different... as long as you are happy MAKING and also happy SPENDING... definitely not making, saving and not spending happily... you only get to live once... too much restriction on your life is not too good...

i would spend on both bags and holidays... =P
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that's not harsh... i guess it depends on individual still... i am happily making money and happily spending money too... and i am 100% financially independent...
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QUOTE(Syd G @ Jun 20 2008, 01:38 PM)
100% financially independent for me means I'll be able to afford my current lifestyle without working for others. This is achieved through earning -> saving -> investing -> earning -> saving/spend -> investing and so on.

I guess it does depend on individuals  nod.gif
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ohhhh... so you want to retire early? at what age?

QUOTE(SPS @ Jun 20 2008, 01:40 PM)
One thing's for sure - I would not equate paying exhorbitantly high interest rates on credit card debt being a happy state.

It seems that the majority of young people nowadays have little if any knowledge of financial planning and investment.

No wonder the banks are earning big bucks from all the credit card suckers out there.


Added on June 20, 2008, 1:43 pm
If one intends to work for a long while in Singapore, it only makes perfect financial sense to purchase a flat or a condominium unit rather than be subject to the whims and fancies of greedy landlords.
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well... just wondering... is everyone or maybe most malaysians working in singapore really wish to take up the PR or become singaporean just to stay there forever? or merely just WORKING and just making the money?

yes, credit card is a sucker!! i dont even use it just have one for emergency...

also, wondering if people who are successful working in singapore ever thought of going back to msia to work after that?
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post Jun 20 2008, 02:17 PM

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well, i understand that singapore might be a good place to work or live in... but what do people usually do if you have family back in malaysia? would you continue to live in distance or you would like to live together with them? either you bring them to singapore or you move back to malaysia?

as for me, money and career wise, i am happy with my life here in melbourne, but i decided to move back to kl/sg just because of family... does my thinking actually make some sense? or it's just me?
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post Jun 20 2008, 02:29 PM

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oh... ok... anyway it seems like i look like a spammer in this thread now... but just sorry i have too many in my mind that i have no one to ask about...

can i ask next question? or i should just stop here?

how is it if to run a business in singapore instead of just working? is that easy with the R&Rs? or the competition?
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post Jun 20 2008, 02:40 PM

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erm... no i mean everyone thinks or at least i think it's better to work in singapore for number of reasons... but i havent heard of people saying... going to singapore to run a business, right?

also i know this singaporean guy he actually left singapore for the reason, singapore is being too stressful to live in and also he doesnt want his kids to become kiasu... and he told me in order to get a good job, they look at your results from secondary school... and he said he doesnt want his kids to have no life beside studying everyday... in short, the lifestyle is not so balance...

but afterall, i am not sure about all these... anyone can clarify?
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ah somemore somemore... i heard eating out is actually cheaper than cooking at home?
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QUOTE(nicvoo @ Jun 20 2008, 05:32 PM)
Depending on where n wat u eat u cant expect to hav cheap food when u dine in a 5star hotel.normal no ac hawker zap fan 2vege 1 meat$2.70.ac hawker min $3.5.
these question i think hav been answered eay in the thread which require ppl wif some comman sense to read
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basically i dont really understand the 2nd paragraph... but oh well... of course i am not comparing home cook food to 5 star hotel food huh...? that is not even close to comparable...

i wanted to ask like what's the average price for you to buy those raw ingredients to cook at home?

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