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post Jun 20 2008, 06:38 PM

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hmmmmmmmmmm... okokok... sorry sorry...

something like how much is the chicken, vege, meat, fish... priced at per kg? or how are they priced? and also rice?
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post Jun 21 2008, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Jun 20 2008, 09:57 PM)
eggs 10 biji $1.30 for the smallest one; dragon fruit 3 biji $1.50; fresh homemade fish balls 10 biji $2; one piece of chicken breast $2; a can of sardins $1.50; one packet of 5kg fragrant rice $10... do I sound like an auntie? laugh.gif

ericca I do cook for my girlfriend once a while (every weekend that is). Let's see... a dinner of bihun soup cost us around SG8 for 2 person.

... and that is every bowl of bihun was served with salmon fillet, 5 fishballs, an egg, lots of vege, and ikan bilis soup that I'd boiled for an hour hahaha laugh.gif I don't think anyone could make 2 bowls of bihun soup for RM10 tongue.gif

okie... more examples... a dinner with one ABC soup, a can of sardines, and a plate of vege = $6... and that is more than enough for both of us; in fact normally we eat till wanna vomit =.=" However do note that I didn't factor in the cost of cooking gas, water, and electricity. Eating outside may be cheaper, but if compare the size of serving definitely cooking will be cheaper.

wub.gif and i just love to cook with my girlfriend helping me... and seeing a smile on her face and a satisfied tummy is just something money can't buy.
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hey that sounds alright, the AMOUNT might sound not economical, but then look at the ingredients in it, definitely worth the price...

and couldnt agree more on the lovey cooking scene, i mean i love cooking too, not that cooking with someone but the feeling of cooking is great!!

QUOTE(nicvoo @ Jun 21 2008, 12:38 AM)
ignore idiots
anyway
u hav more then 3 ppl eating economical to cook
less then 3 not so

1 pot of white carrot soup + pork bones etc will cost about sgd10 wif a packet of yee mee enuf for 3 ppl to eat till vomit so each person $3-4 which is very cheap comapred to 1 eprson boil a pot of soup eat 3 days also cant finish
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my friend was telling me they eat the ZAP FAN for 3bucks only... but then i guess that's not that healthy though... actually i like to cook big pot of soup and have it for few days, the last day is the yummiest!!! and i cook for dinner then i will get to bring lunch to work on the next day too!!

anyone brings lunch to work or everyone eats out?

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post Jun 22 2008, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(seantang @ Jun 21 2008, 11:38 PM)
eRiCCa

I think it's safe to say that the cost of living in Singapore is the same or lower than KL (S$ for RM).

I work in Orchard Road (ie. the most expensive food courts and lunch spots in Sg), and I can manage quite well with S$5 per meal at the food courts. A Subway or Starbucks grande is about S$4.50. A curry chicken bun at Breadtalk is S$1.20.

In terms of supermkts, groceries in Sg, except for stuff that is from Malaysia, is generally cheaper S$ for RM because it's mostly imported.
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wow!! that sounds so cheap!! i guess all the imported things are cheaper there for their exchange rate, this is why we can enjoy luxury life there... and that's one of my reasons to go there, buy enough bags first before going back to kl and can no longer to afford to buy one with the kl salary...

QUOTE(bbmars @ Jun 21 2008, 11:58 PM)
Wow.... cook soup keep for consumption for so many days... actually not healthy at all... by the next day, whatever nutriuent in the  soup already gone.. although may be tasty.  You can actually cook simple Niang Tao foo soup.  Buy them from market or supermartket... price various ~20c/pc.. buy $2 and just boil it with water is already quite good and also healthy. 
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HAHAHHAHAHA exactly what my mom said... but first day soup too CLEAR leh, no taste one =P i thought the nutrients already MELTED into the soup?

well, i guess it's normal for people to eat out there because it's so cheap to eat out, why waste energy after a long day... for me, i have to eat at home to save for my bags... HAHAHHA... eating out here is terrible... cheapest 8-10bucks for the mostest boring food... so most of the people bring lunch to work too...
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post Jun 23 2008, 07:48 AM

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i was thinking... is it actually worth the trouble to work in sg if only holding a S pass?

and i also heard that most singaporeans dont hate malaysians, in fact they kinda like malaysians as they realised quite a number of GOOD malaysian employees out there... and apparently they dislike the politics side of malaysia and not the malaysians themselves... i guess they dont really care about where people from, as long as you can perform well... but another thing is, i was also told that, you need GOOD results from GOOD unis to compete...

well, again, i am not sure about it... so anyone have idea about this?
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post Jun 23 2008, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(SPS @ Jun 23 2008, 10:28 AM)
Being a "stingy ass" and being prudent are two differernt things - something youngsters should ingrain in their heads if they wish to live comfortably instead of being in perpetual credit card debt. 

There are many foreigners in Singapore who work their butts off and save lots - solely due to sheer hard work and prudent expenditure.

Have a Singaporean girlfriend?  LOL, you will dig a bigger hole in debt if you do that!


Added on June 23, 2008, 10:31 am
Look at the number of high-profile positions held by Malaysians or ex-Malaysians in Singapore:

1.  Former CEO of SIA and current chairman of OCBC is an ex-Malaysian who was headhunted for in the late 1970s
2.  Minister of Health hails from Penang
3.  Several judges are ex-Malaysian
4.  25% of the law faculty in NTU are Malaysians/ ex-Malaysians
I have several friends who are surgeons, GPs and pharmacists who moved to Singapore and have done very well for themselves and their families.


Added on June 23, 2008, 10:32 am
That's too generic a question.

It solely depends on your lifestyle and your commitments.
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ah i know that's what i said they are good malaysian employees out there... but are they all smart students before? like first class honours... distinction degree/master/phd... from well known unis? any possible chance that they were from some local unis or colleges, or even highest qualification is secondary shcool?
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post Jun 23 2008, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(SPS @ Jun 23 2008, 11:17 AM)
Singapore is particular about the quality of degrees and certifications for professional jobs so it's a yes to your question.

An example would be that the Singapore legal council does not recognize "twinning degrees" from Malaysia and hence some Malaysian lawyers who work in Singapore are forced to downgrade to the level of paralegals.
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WAH SO MEAN!! then i am dead meat edi lar... i did twinning... =(
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post Jun 23 2008, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(seantang @ Jun 23 2008, 12:59 PM)
Another example of a Malaysian doing very well in Singapore is Olivia Lum, who's the CEO and founder of Hyflux, a large listed water purification company. She's from Kampar, studied on a Sg govt scholarship after being refused locally. Her CFO is from Ipoh. Without looking at high profile folks like ministers or CEOs, there are seriously a lot of Malaysians in Sg in positions that would not be possible in Malaysia without plenty of cables.
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so does it prove that only those who are good in academic can do good in sg? but not those who might not study well but then changed later or actually street smart than book smart?
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post Jun 24 2008, 09:19 AM

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that looks like dont go to sg if the salary is not above 3k?

anyone can tell me what's the salary range for operations in banking?
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post Jun 24 2008, 12:53 PM

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wahlao... it just sounds like NATIONAL roaming to me!! paying to receive calls!! and i cant believe that you need to pay for the incoming caller ID thingie...
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post Jun 24 2008, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Jun 24 2008, 01:29 PM)
Singapore telcos dump everything to you and start charging you when the promotion is over, but items like Caller-ID, itemised billing, and even incoming calls shouldn't even be charged. Its like buying a plate of chicken rice and the seller charges you seperately for the chillie sauce, the fork, the spoon, and the bowl of soup sweat.gif

Ah well, different countries different telco... have to adapt and get used to it.
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HAHAHAH i have the same feelings too...!!

just like how i used to have 12 packets of mcd tomato sauce on my mcd french fries... but ever since in australia, i am now used to having french fries KOSONG, as they freaking charging for the sauce!! =(

but somehow it is good when you have some idiotic friends who dont like to recharge their mobile and they will start doing dodgy things like miss calling you and hope that you will call back... or i even met some who called me, picked up and said "call me back" hung up... so with the charges in singapore, these people dont exist...

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post Jun 27 2008, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(nicvoo @ Jun 26 2008, 04:37 PM)
its not really hard to get a job jus come prepared dont come as if u're the boss attitude. all depends on how u present yourself
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hmmm... well presenting during interviews you mean? what if you cant even get an interview with the resume? just like they dont like your academic and you probably dont have experience in big companies...?

QUOTE(cktwai @ Jun 26 2008, 10:22 PM)
SPS.. forget about it... those who wants to remain in Msia can do so... don't really need to argue.. you and I know how it's like over at SG  laugh.gif

Sometimes you only need to ask yourself whether you're happier. smile.gif Of course a billionair in Msia would argue with you whether SG or MY is a better place....  laugh.gif


Added on June 26, 2008, 10:25 pm
where is everyone staying ? I believe we had a small one the last time hahhaha at some korean BBQ buffet place.. hahaha
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hmmm... well, i was told that... only people who are not good enough will go out of the country and think that they can do better elsewhere... there are still many people who can do really well in malaysia, just that you have to be REALLY REALLY good to do good in malaysia... while average-good people will have to move elsewhere just that they cant compete with those really good ones... and also they think that they are doing better other places mainly because of the exchange rate and while they are still getting the same pay in dollar to dollar...
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post Jun 27 2008, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(PoisonIvy82 @ Jun 27 2008, 09:01 AM)
Hi all..

Quick note: I have not read the previous posts.. so not too sure what is going on but when i saw this post.. i think i should write something to reply..

I think it is a lil unfair for you to say such things, although you were told about this. Yes, i am currently working in Spore.. and i resigned from my company and the branch in Spore found out and offered me a job here. No doubt, you have to be "REALLY REALLY good to do good in Msia" but i think, you need to do good just about anywhere you are at. Then, people will notice you (not because you suck it up) and appreciate your work.

About "average people" move elsewhere and can't compete.. i think it is an unfair statement. I think we need to proof ourselves as well in a foreign land. Why should a foreign land hire you if you can't perform? Or not credible? I would think that they have their own local grads or even local manpower available as well? Maybe not sufficient.. but still..

And about the exchange rate. Now.. this.. i have been talking about this issue since i got here (or even before) in Spore. Even my employers here wanted to pay me slightly lesser coz they said 'if you convert it back to RM, it will be so much more'. Do you know what i said to them? I told them straight off that 'unless you're telling me that i can convert to RM and pay for my lodging, travel, makan and other stuff, then yes.. please feel free to pay me that amount'. I think as a matured person working in a foreign land, we tend to look at currency as a dollar to dollar thing. And i do have to admit that the spending power here is higher compared to Msia.. and i shall not get into that coz my reply is getting a wee bit long.

IMHO, i feel that, no matter where you are, you have pros and cons. Am i doing better in Spore? Well, can't really say yet but i can say that i am good at what i do. Otherwise, i will not be where i am now. Have you thought that some people take this as an 'opportunity' to further develop their skills and develop themselves esp working in a foreign land? Not everyone wants to rub it into those who are working in msia's face that they are flashing big money. If you know any, then be mature and smile at them when you know deep down they are just simply being a kid..

Guess that's that from me. I'm not trying to offend anyone but that is just my opinion on this matter.

p/s: YESSS let's meet up..~ Let me know venue!~ biggrin.gif
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hmmm... well yea i get what you mean, that's what i think too... i am just thinking that there are still other people think differently FROM US... and how they see us for thinking to go other places to get better jobs...

while what they tend to see is... there are so many billionaires and millionaires in malaysia doing so good and why cant you do that too... does it mean you are not as good then? that's why i was like... errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr... ok...

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