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 Oil & Gas Careers V8, Upstream and Downstream, Crude Oil (WTI): USD 45.22/bbl

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post Oct 7 2015, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(BaRT @ Oct 7 2015, 09:21 AM)
Does anybody heard company names transfame?
There is few vacancy available.

http://www.transfame.com.my/career/offshore-crew/
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Well, looks like more on rm1 Alibaba company for me. Like in PD, there are Danex, Tanex and Ranax, all are the same boss behind. He is doing this as to get more contracts to serve Petron and SHell.
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post Oct 8 2015, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(sukhoi35mk @ Oct 8 2015, 11:26 AM)
dude....Downstream is not all about refinery la.... alot of engineering projects going on also not related to refinery in malaysia wat....  biggrin.gif
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Yup, including chemical plants that using naptha or polypropylene thumbup.gif
Still, demand are not that strong currently sweat.gif
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post Oct 9 2015, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(yubenraj @ Oct 9 2015, 01:27 AM)
Hello everyone.

I have just finished my petrochemical engineering degree last month and I am really interested to work in the oil and gas industry especially in the upstream sector. Thus, I would appreciate if anyone here is willing to share some information on which websites and channels that I should look into as I am a fresh graduate seeking for jobs. Besides that, I would be happy to gain valuable knowledge from you guys on which engineering fields or courses that I should be going as I would really wish to go into these field. Thank you very much for the help. biggrin.gif
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Downstream is better for your field of studies, lowest level job are lab jobs.
Upstream no doubt are higher salary, but with recent MLNG2 case and another 1300 staffs getting slashed without compensations, do you think it is really good?
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post Oct 9 2015, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(kiwibird @ Oct 9 2015, 10:27 AM)
I am doing a university project, haha.

But, I dont think going to upstream is a problem. I am willing to wait until oil price gets bettter only join. I am still studying  nod.gif
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Sure, any field going in is not a problem, but getting slashed is a problem. You may get 5 figures when joined, but only can last you for few years and no job after that, what would you think at that time hmm.gif
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post Oct 9 2015, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(kiwibird @ Oct 9 2015, 10:33 AM)
I suppose the experience you obtain can get you another similar job from other companies?

Are you trying to say that upstream is always insecure? Or this period of time only as oil industry is not doing well.
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Usually it is secured, but then nothing will bloom forever, upstream are more on digging, so with current economy, upstream business are quite bad since most downstream are importing oil from cheaper sources.
It will be worst if you join Shell, look at them now, either get slashed with minimal compensation or get pay cut by 40-50%, read more news and international portals as they are more opened on telling the facts. Lowyat forum are more on cover up stories for this matter.
Now Petronas are not in the good book, but they are still letting white elephant projects to stay on due to political issues doh.gif
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post Oct 9 2015, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(Salary @ Oct 9 2015, 01:42 PM)
Lol. Slashed, yes. Minimal compensation and pay cut? Sejuk cerita, bang.
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Why? Are you expecting you still can get 6 figures on compensations? Indeed got, with a "." before the last 2 figures whistling.gif
Is no more like good old days, this is the trend now.

QUOTE(wywy2020 @ Oct 9 2015, 03:39 PM)
oil and gas easily get 5 figures?
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Yup, upstream's pay are quite high for a permanent staff. That's why when they are doing the slashing exercise, upstream's staffs is the first to go sweat.gif
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post Oct 10 2015, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(wywy2020 @ Oct 10 2015, 11:48 AM)
they are getting a good increment every year or they join with a high salary?
how about support roles like accountant?
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It depends on how you join Shell.
As a fresh graduates, minimum pay are rm4+++ with 2 adjustments a year. 1 year to confirm and next year is the important time for you to perform(in terms of work and office politics).
If you are selected, congrats, your path is like going to top floor using private elevator.
Else, you still can climb, but with a jam packed elevator, worst case, gets kicked out when time are bad.
If join with experience, the pay would be higher as a start but no 2 adjustments.
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post Oct 10 2015, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(reinzx @ Oct 10 2015, 12:54 PM)
Nonsense.
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Before you want to talk nonsense, why not show some proof that your nonsense are fact whistling.gif
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post Oct 10 2015, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(Salary @ Oct 10 2015, 04:33 PM)
Four figure compensation? I see you're doing well as a third-rate comedian after becoming an industry reject.

1.5 times years spent in the company, or years remaining. With a minimum salary of at least 15k, doesn't take a genius to figure out the majority will walk away with 6 figure sums.

Well, unless of course, they're terminated for under-performance, such as your case.  laugh.gif
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Well, the 41 MLNG2 staffs and soon to slash 1300 will tell you that you are wrong whistling.gif

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post Oct 10 2015, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(Salary @ Oct 10 2015, 07:43 PM)
I'm wrong about what? I thought we're talking about compensation packages and that I already acknowledged that SSB is cutting staff? Care to point out where I'm wrong?  whistling.gif

Have some sweets bro, you sound so bitter.
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They don't get proper compensation whistling.gif
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post Oct 10 2015, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(Salary @ Oct 10 2015, 08:35 PM)
I've already stated out the compensation formula. It is up to the rest to judge whether it's fair or not.

Where did you pull that four-figure compensation from? That I'd like to hear.

Continue to twist and turn. Now like I said, go ahead and point out where I'm wrong  rolleyes.gif
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That is for normal VSS, if there is still got company wants to apply it. For Shell, the VSS package are better. But nope, they won't be using this.
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post Oct 10 2015, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(Salary @ Oct 10 2015, 09:17 PM)
Continue to convince yourself. The package is published on the company's internal restructuring page. That, and plus they will get this year's bonus.

It was also officially announced that the company's existing redundancy package applies for those not selected for a role as part of the new organisation. Go check with any Shell staff. Seems like you have a lot of alibaba sources  whistling.gif
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Well, my source never been wrong since 7 years back whistling.gif From upstream to downstream whistling.gif
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post Oct 10 2015, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(Salary @ Oct 10 2015, 11:14 PM)
Your source has the talent to become an Utusan writer. 90% of what you've posted hold zero credibility.  rolleyes.gif

I rest my case, what I've posted is published in black and white on the company's page. Fair or not, I won't comment, but the fact remains that anyone who is made redundant will be paid in full as per the company's existing redundancy policy, and there will be no pay cuts for those who secured a role in the new organisation.

All SMEP staff has been informed of this.
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Yup, that is if they are still working in Shell whistling.gif
But that 1300 mostly won't able to secure a post, so laid off is the way to go whistling.gif
Anyway, we have 2 years to see what is their faith thumbup.gif
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post Oct 11 2015, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(Salary @ Oct 10 2015, 11:32 PM)
And your point is?

Of course those 1300 won't secure a post, because there WILL be 1300 cuts, which is approximately 30% of the entire organisation.

You're wrong about the redundancy payouts. You're wrong about staff getting pay cuts. You're wrong about the graduate pay scheme. And now you're just regurgitating what had been said in the news. LOL.

Wonder what made you so bitter about this industry. But fortunately for those getting laid off, they are still getting a comparatively handsome compensation.
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Well, staffs from MLNG2, NGC, HP already a good example of pay cuts whistling.gif Did they get any handsome compensations? Nope, only 3-4 months signing bonus, very far from VSS's package since this signing bonus are taxable thumbup.gif
Also, 1300 out of 6500 is only 20%, get the numbers right first before trying to deny my facts doh.gif
After upstream, next will be downstream and very soon another good news will be announced.
Graduate scheme during good times is 2 times adjustment per year, can always ask the staffs from few years back.
BTW, I never feel bitter about this, is just a dirty fact that most people that get laid to rest can accept the fact whistling.gif
The so-called VSS only applicable when only 1-2 person get laid off, does not applicable to group laid off. Also, there's 3 package and it will be whichever lower payout. But now HR are doing for the fourth package, looking for buyer and give an 1 time signing bonus like what is done before whistling.gif
Now I'm a consultant, 1 call on the spot get rm500 for 2 hours and rm100 for next hour also tax free since is in cash term, so why I need to bitter about?
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post Oct 11 2015, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(InF.anime @ Oct 11 2015, 03:38 AM)
Suddenly F&B, suddenly consultant..
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post Oct 11 2015, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(Salary @ Oct 11 2015, 11:46 AM)
1. I do not consider HP part of SMEP. They are contract staff as far as I'm concerned. MLNG2, if you're referring to BIF and operations for M1, M3 & B11, they are made redundant and are offered by petronas as part of the takeover, so those who are employed by petronas are naturally going to roll over to their payscale. Quit twisting facts - staff retained by Shell will get no pay cuts.

2. I already agreed with 1300 cuts. I said approximately 30%, not exactly. Am I denying your facts? Did i get my number of 1300 wrong? If I did, that means you're wrong. Open your eyes.

3. The current graduate scheme adjustments have been there since 2005. There has never been two adjustments per year, unless you're referring to ancient times, which I have no record of and neither do I care. That's not few years back. What you're saying, if applicable at all, dates back to more than a decade. Which era are you living in?

4. Bitter is when you started twisting and turning your facts - 1. four figure compensation (wrong) 2. graduate pay scheme (wrong) 3. Shell employees getting pay cuts (wrong)

5. Again, twisting the facts. Get it through your shallow mind that Shell HAS officially announced in writing that the current three packages apply for those 1300 who are going to be made redundant. There is no fourth package. Stop trying to mislead people.

5. RM500 for 2 hours is nothing to brag about for a freelance consultant. No wonder you're so bitter, now I know why.  laugh.gif
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1. As said, if they are still Shell staffs. But this 1300 won't be, so is you that shall stop twisting here and there doh.gif
2. 1300/6500 is 20%, so make the maths right first.
3. no wonder you so bitter with this when got people managed to get twice per year whistling.gif
4. on the redundancy package, as said they will choose the lowest, highest won't go beyond 10 months, that's ~20 years of service. For new joiners, it will be 0.5-2 months, which is 4 figures.
5. Nope, Shell has not said anything on this as to continue keep the staffs in the dark. But already start giving consultation on what needs to do if get laid in to rest.
6. I'm happy with it, since each month I'll be called in for 8-10 times. So need to bitter? Is your assumption just to make you feel happy.

Few years back when Peter Voser became the group CEO, he also did the same to 1/3 of the total manpower, all with minimal compensation which is far from the 3 packages. So 2 years are not long to see who is twisting, but considering current situation and their drive, more on you are twisting. But I do understand this, who can accept that he will get slashed after all the while taking high pay and do less work whistling.gif Even people working in PD also the same, say if change company get mad, say if convert to terminal gets angry.
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post Oct 11 2015, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(Salary @ Oct 11 2015, 12:12 PM)
1. The 1300 cuts is only shell staff. Not HP - they are contract staff. Even when they were working for Shell, they have always been contract staff. No idea why you're bringing them into the picture and made it seem like SHELL is the one offering a small redundancy package, when HP is and has been their paymaster all these while. This is defamation, mate.

2. Sure, my maths is wrong - I am okay to admit that my 30% is wrong, but does that matter? I have already agreed from the start that there will be 1300 cuts. Why so petty about that error  rolleyes.gif

3. I'm bitter? I was part of Shell's graduate scheme, so how can I be bitter about myself? Quit misleading others about Shell's compensation scheme.

4. 0.5months is for those who joined for less than a year (if pro-rated). 2 months is for those who joined just over a year (pro-rated). Regardless, if you're an engineer who joined for more than 8 months or so, you will walk away with five figures. Now, majority who got laid off is >5 year experience. which amounts to 6 figures even by going with the lowest scale. do the maths yourself.

5. Shell has. ask your so called "source" to check our internal page on the restructuring. Quit pulling crap out of your ass.

6. Doesn't sound like you're happy bro. I'm not assuming. Everyone on this forum can see how bitter you are.  rolleyes.gif

Minimal compensation has never been four figures. Unless you're the outlier, as in you're one of the very, very few who are employed for less than half a year then made redundant. Now you know most Shell staff has been in the company all their lives - most being made redundant are in the range of 5 - 30 years. Staff working in Shell's PD refinery did not get any pay cuts. Again, I'll like to reiterate - Staff retained by Shell and are under direct employment by Shell WILL NOT receive a pay cut. If you don't understand English, do get someone to translate this to you.

Now who's the one twisting again? All I've said were published in black and white by the company, while yours come from your alibaba source  laugh.gif
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1. My friend was hired under Shell when he worked in Cyberjaya and getting 2 adjustments at that time. Later only Shell decided to sub it out to HP. HP was having serious financial issues during that time. He until resign also never sign that agreement to get 3-4 months signing bonus. And at that time, non of the ex Shell staffs on this move admit that they are contract staffs. From Shell > HP, Shell already started not to give redundancy package, but will use brutal way to do it. That's the dirty history. After that, follow by Shell luboil plant in Sarawak that closed down, few hundred people lost their job and gets nothing. Follow by Shell LPG in PD, also the same shit, gets 4 months signing bonus that come with condition. Now the transition period are over and their pay are being cut since they are no more under Shell.
2. Well, it do matters, since 20 and 30 are different.
3. You was part, but other also the same and they are enjoying it, too bad you can't.
4. As said, there's unofficial 4th option and Shell are looking deep on it.
5. Restructuring indeed ongoing, but no solid news on compensation. usually what put officially means nothing, smoking shed and pantry together with managers are the best place for source of info.

Before the ex MLNG2 staffs being laid, compensations also based on the 3 options provided by HR. But at the end they got 4th option, job still got but with pay cut 40-50% whistling.gif
Don't trust what the boss says, prepare your CV and leave it before it hits you.
BTW, there's mass hiring in Saudi now for all levels and department and they require about 200-300 staffs, this is what Shell worry also as during this transition period, they need people to run their assets. So by calming down the staffs and continue to let them living in denial are good to keep them and sweep like rubbish when this is over.

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post Oct 11 2015, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(Salary @ Oct 11 2015, 01:13 PM)
1. Your friend was hired by HP but contracted to Shell.

2. Give or take, 1300 will lose their jobs.

3. Enjoying it? Ask any one in the grad scheme from 10 years back until the one that will be employed next and they will tell you the same that I've told you. Don't believe me? Call up Shell HR and ask.

4. Oh, so you're basing facts on "unofficial" rumours now? Deep into it? too late mate. Unless Shell wants a class action lawsuit - what has been announced is firm. Besides, those made redundant this round will receive their letters on 1st Nov.

5. It is solid. I'm not gonna repeat myself. Go check the black and white. And this statement shows that you have ZERO credibility. What a joke.

I always have my CV ready. In fact, I'd rather take my compensation and leave, but unfortunately for the both of us, I still have a job, and you have nothing to laugh at. What you post really shows what kind of person you are - spouting nonsense, reveling in the fact that people with a family might lose their jobs. Get your moral compass back on track and hammer it into your shallow head that every industry will go through ups and downs and the ones at a loss are those who are just starting up their family. I wonder how you sleep at night finding joy in that. No jobs are secure, not even if you own your own company.

For the benefit of the wider community, going back on topic, the only thing correct about your initial post is the 1300 job cuts. Like I said, for this restructuring, there will be no pay cuts for retained staff, and redundancy package will be as per existing policy. This has been cast in stone.

This statement here:
Is enough for me to know you're beyond delusional. Seems like you're gonna continue to twist beyond logic. Good luck to your F&B job, hope karma doesn't hit you too hard  whistling.gif
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Yup, my friend was hired by HP but getting Shell payroll, enjoying Shell medical benefits whistling.gif Good try, but never, I let you win since this is cyber world. Getting 10 cyber identities the most you will win on cyber world.
As said, wait for another 2 years and see who's statement is fact.
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post Oct 17 2015, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(BaRT @ Oct 16 2015, 11:44 PM)
A little advice for job seeker from LinkedIn  biggrin.gif

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Well, this will only happen when that particular candidate only has papers but has limited experience. I use my CV(which uploaded to LinkedIn) that never been update for the past 5 years but yet I'm getting job offers every now and then, all by different head hunters whistling.gif
Just only feel sad that non of the Malaysian companies are looking for me.
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post Oct 17 2015, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(BaRT @ Oct 17 2015, 10:35 AM)
Ok. sejuk cieta bang... yawn.gif
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