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Sony Xperia C4, M4 Aqua, C5 Ultra and M5 official discussion thread V1


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You, your friends and the perfect shot

Introducing the Xperia C4, the next generation selfie phone from Sony. Not only do you get a powerful 13-megapixel main camera, but also a 5-megapixel front camera boasting an LED flash and wide-angle lens. The Xperia C4 has everything you need to start snapping PROselfie photos and videos.

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PROselfies in any light
The Xperia C4 makes getting that perfect selfie effortless. Thanks to Sony camera expertise, settings are automatically optimised to capture sharp, clear portraits, even in low light. Add the soft LED flash and a natural light is cast over the subject.

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How to improve a great selfie
You’re about to capture the perfect shot. Now make a good thing even better with a range of smart and fun camera apps. Use Style portrait to enhance your natural look, or have a laugh combining two portraits with AR mask.

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View the world in Full HD
The Xperia C4 has a big, bright and beautiful 5.5” Full HD display with enhanced sharpness and contrast. So, whether you’re checking out your friend’s photos, watching that cute puppy video, or catching up with a favourite TV series, every detail will look truly amazing.

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Who says you have to wait?
With its ultra-fast Octa-core processor, the Xperia C4 makes it easy to run multiple apps, upload images, stream music, chat, play games and more. All at once, all lag-free. And with a powerful battery you can do all this for even longer.


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Dig into more detail about the features and technologies behind the Xperia C4


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All you need for PROselfies
The Xperia C4 is an Octa-core phone with a 5-megapixel front camera featuring a soft LED flash and a 25 mm wide-angle lens. It also boasts an Exmor R™ image sensor for sharp photos with low noise and vivid colour even in low light. If you have a bright light behind you, HDR balances it out so selfies are clear. Shooting a Selfie video? Get a smooth, steady result thanks to SteadyShot™.

Unique soft LED flash
The Xperia C4 boasts a soft LED flash that will create perfect shots in any light. The flash automatically adjusts to the ideal settings for your lighting conditions and naturally illuminates the scene.

Superior Auto for the front camera
The Xperia C4 features Superior Auto for the front camera. So whether you have strong backlight or just want to capture a beautiful night scene, all your selfie portraits will look professional with Superior Auto mode.

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Capture more with a 25 mm wide view
The front camera also features a 25 mm wide-angle lens with an 80-degree field of view. So you’ll fit in even more of the view, and even more friends in the shot.

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Download more apps directly from your camera
Besides the Xperia camera apps that come pre-installed, there’s a whole range of other fun apps for you to enjoy. New apps are continually released and can be downloaded directly via the camera interface on your Xperia device.

Display
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The big-screen experience on a smartphone
The large 5.5” Full HD display on the Xperia C4 boasts the latest Sony TV technologies optimised for mobile. Mobile BRAVIA® Engine 2 gives you enhanced sharpness and contrast for immersive viewing. Activate the Super vivid mode for a vibrant colour experience. And with IPS this Octa-core phone brings you perfect viewing from any angle and accurate colours from edge to edge. So grab your friends, put on a film and everyone will get to enjoy the action.

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Pump up the volume
If you want to get the party started, there’s no better way than music. Loud music. Your Xperia C4 has a speaker capable of up to 97 decibels. So put on a tune, turn it up loud and it’s party time.

Crystal clear sound
With a trio of ClearAudio+ technologies – Clear Stereo, Clear Bass and Clear Phase – your tracks are stripped of distortion and played back with perfect balance and pin-dropping clarity. And with automatic settings, all you need to do is enjoy the music.

Feel the bass
The xLOUD loudness enhancement engine delivers your music with a deeper, richer sound and soul-shaking bass performance.

Design
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Sleek and lightweight
The Xperia C4 might have a large display, but it’s a surprisingly lightweight and portable smartphone that fits in anywhere. Colour options include black, white and standout mint. The Xperia C4 is really the smartphone to be seen with.

Speed
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Fast, faster, LTE
This smartphone has a built-in LTE/4G modem. This enables blazingly fast Internet connections with up to 150 Mbit/s download and 50 MBit/s upload speeds.
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An Octa-core phone with lightning-fast performance
Run multiple apps simultaneously, surf the web with shorter loading time and stream beautifully lag-free videos. The advanced 1.7 GHz Octa-core processor gives you maximum performance and speed without draining your battery. The processor is asynchronous, which means each core is powered up and down independently. So you get the precise amount of power when you need it, without wasting power when you don’t.

Battery
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Battery STAMINA Mode – Go even further
How can you improve on a good thing? Activate Battery STAMINA Mode and keep your battery going longer – with no major compromise.

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Extended standby mode
Want to make standby last four times as long? Switch on Extended Standby Mode. Your apps and functions will be intuitively turned off when you’re not using the display. However, you’ll still receive calls, texts, alarms and your choice of app notifications. Press the power button and everything is up and running again.

Extended usage mode
Low on battery but still have things to do? Extended usage mode extends usage time by up to 14%.

Ultra STAMINA Mode – Squeeze out every drop
Sometimes the unexpected happens and you find yourself running seriously low on battery when you’re far away from your charger. Ultra STAMINA Mode will help you out, limiting your phone to core functions – like calls and SMS – so you can get every bit of charge from your battery.


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yes! been waiting for this.
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The name laugh.gif . C4 explode right into the market. tongue.gif
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post May 12 2015, 11:08 PM

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so.. any confirmed released date?

spotted in garage sales, the phone will come on june

lol sorry. didn't notice about the reserved posts. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(sickx @ May 12 2015, 11:08 PM)
so.. any confirmed released date?

spotted in garage sales, the phone will come on june

lol sorry. didn't notice about the reserved posts. sweat.gif
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i will notify when it will reach Malaysia. smile.gif
also the time when it will reach my store.
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post May 13 2015, 09:40 AM

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im looking on this xperia C4 Dual and M4 Aqua Dual as well..

most probably i will go to M4 Aqua Dual.. checked from sonymobile MY website, it is showing Dual version will be enter to malaysia market..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ May 13 2015, 09:40 AM)
im looking on this xperia C4 Dual and M4 Aqua Dual as well..

most probably i will go to M4 Aqua Dual.. checked from sonymobile MY website, it is showing Dual version will be enter to malaysia market..
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i have thoughts that C4 will be selling more than M4 Aqua. im judging from M2 Aqua because the sales have been pretty bad although it's a cheap budget phone.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ May 13 2015, 09:43 AM)
i have thoughts that C4 will be selling more than M4 Aqua. im judging from M2 Aqua because the sales have been pretty bad although it's a cheap budget phone.
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M4 aqua looks better imo. Haha. C4 rm1xxx +?
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 13 2015, 10:13 AM)
M4 aqua looks better imo. Haha. C4 rm1xxx +?
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not sure haha. there are ups and downs for both phones but im pretty much sure that C4 will be a hit.

pricing not avail yet, i will let y'all know when it is in market.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ May 13 2015, 09:43 AM)
i have thoughts that C4 will be selling more than M4 Aqua. im judging from M2 Aqua because the sales have been pretty bad although it's a cheap budget phone.
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hmm depend on the pricetag for both phone.. i expect rm1099 for C4 Dual and Rm1299 for M4 aqua..

since m2 aqua is 1gb ram and price on 949. which is a bad move for people to take it.. ppl would take mi 3 which have better specs.. or else take sony z1/z1 compact which higher a little price but a lot better than m2 aqua..

i believe now these 2 phone do have own characteristics, 64 bit core, 2gb of RAM, 13mp and 5MP front camera.. if both are included dual sim, so it may compete with others china brand phone like xiaomi, honor, lenovo, htc in that range.. although the price of sony is expensive.. but target on selected consumers which need the unique of features..

since recently sony do deliver promising battery life.. i guess that is one of the advantage.. C4 mainly target for selfie people with large screen, while M4 aqua may target for overall feature with waterproof feature.. capless usb port.. which is attractive..

in other manufacturer, many phone can compete with these 2 xperia, especially price tag.. honor 4x, mi4i, lenovo A7000.. all price below 1k.. specs more or less the same.. the difference on android experience..
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ May 13 2015, 10:18 AM)
not sure haha. there are ups and downs for both phones but im pretty much sure that C4 will be a hit.

pricing not avail yet, i will let y'all know when it is in market.
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Btw same sensor as Z3's or better?
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 13 2015, 10:25 AM)
Btw same sensor as Z3's or better?
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what sensor do u mean?? camera sensor?? if camera sensor, it using exmor rs sensor, which i believe it would be the same as xperia Z/ZL that type.. which is back at 2013.. 1/2.3" sensor..
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hopefully it price the same as C3 around RM899-999
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ May 13 2015, 10:30 AM)
what sensor do u mean?? camera sensor?? if camera sensor, it using exmor rs sensor, which i believe it would be the same as xperia Z/ZL that type.. which is back at 2013.. 1/2.3" sensor..
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Yup cam sensor
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The camera sensor is the same as what we are using in Z now. The front sensor doesn't have info yet.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ May 13 2015, 11:57 AM)
The camera sensor is the same as what we are using in Z now. The front sensor doesn't have info yet.
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So sony is using the same sensor in their mid n high end phone? -,-

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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 13 2015, 12:21 PM)
So sony is using the same sensor in their mid n high end phone? -,-
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Yes, IMX135.
it's present in Xperia Z
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for current xperia Z flagship series like Z1 onwards, all using 1/2.3" sensor ady.. i guess C4 and M4 aqua using like 2013 Z series which is 1/3.2" sensor..

like Z/ZL/ZR those camera sensor.. quality not the top, but not bad.. average above..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ May 13 2015, 01:08 PM)
for current xperia Z flagship series like Z1 onwards, all using 1/2.3" sensor ady.. i guess C4 and M4 aqua using like 2013 Z series which is 1/3.2" sensor..

like Z/ZL/ZR those camera sensor.. quality not the top, but not bad.. average above..
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btw, this will have LTE right? i checked on sony website, it says not available in all markets.

and what was the price of C3 when it first entered the market? price of C4 should be around the same, right?
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QUOTE(sickx @ May 13 2015, 01:38 PM)
btw, this will have LTE right? i checked on sony website, it says not available in all markets.

and what was the price of C3 when it first entered the market? price of C4 should be around the same, right?
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No info on this yet.
the price for C3 is 999 during launch.
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due to the GST imposed in Malaysia, so i estimate 1099 for C4 and 1299 for M4 aqua.. i do hope both of these will different from estimation price around rm100..

due to HTC Desire 826 which almost the same specs as M4 aqua come with RRP 1399/1299.. so i guess more or less the same price.. but C4 surely cheaper than M4 due to mediatek processor, cheaper cost in making.. not sure. but i guess sony mobile MY will announce in coming.. hopefully soon
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ May 13 2015, 02:25 PM)
due to the GST imposed in Malaysia, so i estimate 1099 for C4 and 1299 for M4 aqua.. i do hope both of these will different from estimation price around rm100..

due to HTC Desire 826 which almost the same specs as M4 aqua come with RRP 1399/1299.. so i guess more or less the same price.. but C4 surely cheaper than M4 due to mediatek processor, cheaper cost in making.. not sure. but i guess sony mobile MY will announce in coming.. hopefully soon
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last time C3 and M2 aqua same price at RM999.
I assume it will be the same.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ May 13 2015, 09:09 PM)
last time C3 and M2 aqua same price at RM999.
I assume it will be the same.
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difference in these C4 and M4 due to different processor used.. mediatek vs qualcomm.
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ May 14 2015, 09:09 AM)
difference in these C4 and M4 due to different processor used.. mediatek vs qualcomm.
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C4 Full HD and M4 is 720P
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QUOTE(silentsunami @ May 14 2015, 10:52 AM)
C4 Full HD and M4 is 720P
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QUOTE(silentsunami @ May 14 2015, 10:52 AM)
C4 Full HD and M4 is 720P
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ May 14 2015, 10:55 AM)
it's the processor. screen tech and reso doesn't matter. smile.gif
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of course C4 and M4 do have some differences.. depend on consumer preferred on which one they want.. hmm if both are the same price will be good.. if can keep the price around 1099.. but HTC desire 826 at 1299.. xiaomi mi4i around 800.. hardly to compete in smartphone area..
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we consumer sure want cheaper then better phone lo...haha
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M4 Aqua should be price not more than 14xx, same like Honor 6+ and Desire 826

Although it cant fight against Mi4i and Zenfone2 in terms of pricing, but dont go above 14xx which is Samsung's overpriced territory
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so seem sony m4 aqua will come first..

i guess mid of june will launch.. hopefully come wtih 16gb, Dual sim with LTE at least one sim, then price rm1299 or lower.. if 8gb should be around 1059..

im looking forward for these 2 phone.. but probably go for s615, m4 aqua for overall performance.. suit my overall needs, waterproof, dual sim.. but no special feature like flagship, timeshift video, good graphic..


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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ May 17 2015, 06:24 PM)
so seem sony m4 aqua will come first..

i guess mid of june will launch.. hopefully come wtih 16gb, Dual sim with LTE at least one sim, then price rm1299 or lower.. if 8gb should be around 1059..

im looking forward for these 2 phone.. but probably go for s615, m4 aqua for overall performance.. suit my overall needs, waterproof, dual sim.. but no special feature like flagship, timeshift video, good graphic..
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 17 2015, 06:37 PM)
Plus with z3 design. XD
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overall im ok with m4 aqua.. just worry about qualcomm s615 processor.

besides fromthat, are the software part.. sony refine good in software, performance ok.. just less some features which only able to get from flagship.. z2 now also just price at 1459.. get 3gb, s801, 16gb, slowmo video, 20mp..

m4 is price around 1299, jst difference rm150.. most people will go old flagship.. unless like me, need special needs, dual sim.. i lazy to bring 2 phone now.. so just want dual sim phone.. a lot of dual sim phone out there.. just not used to other ROM UI, prefer on sony basic simple UI.. so haizz.. previously thought z3 dual will launch in msia.. manatau..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ May 17 2015, 06:48 PM)
overall im ok with m4 aqua.. just worry about qualcomm s615 processor.

besides fromthat, are the software part.. sony refine good in software, performance ok.. just less some features which only able to get from flagship.. z2 now also just price at 1459.. get 3gb, s801, 16gb, slowmo video, 20mp..

m4 is price around 1299, jst difference rm150.. most people will go old flagship.. unless like me, need special needs, dual sim.. i lazy to bring 2 phone now.. so just want dual sim phone.. a lot of dual sim phone out there.. just not used to other ROM UI, prefer on sony basic simple UI.. so haizz.. previously thought z3 dual will launch in msia.. manatau..
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Most of the flagship dual sim version wont be released in malaysia. Haha
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 17 2015, 10:17 PM)
Most of the flagship dual sim version wont be released in malaysia.  Haha
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yeah.. do have AP set of Z3 dual here.. but i dont like about AP warranty..just in case if any problem, warranty coverage is different.. better choose ori set and covered by sc warranty in msia.. so far so many phone i used before, only my ZL enter sc once to fix the motherboard and battery due to death issue.. others, still stay strong..

i do have AP set of Xperia NEO before.. but still work well until now.. just recently do have some symptom that the phone refuse to charge sometime..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ May 18 2015, 10:59 AM)
yeah.. do have AP set of Z3 dual here.. but i dont like about AP warranty..just in case if any problem, warranty coverage is different.. better choose ori set and covered by sc warranty in msia.. so far so many phone i used before, only my ZL enter sc once to fix the motherboard and battery due to death issue.. others, still stay strong..

i do have AP set of Xperia NEO before.. but still work well until now.. just recently do have some symptom that the phone refuse to charge sometime..
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Used AP set Z Ultra for 1 year 2 months and still rocking solid. flex.gif
just battery degraded.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ May 18 2015, 12:04 PM)
Used AP set Z Ultra for 1 year 2 months and still rocking solid. flex.gif
just battery degraded.
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If ap set mobo died within warranty period,will they changed it?
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ May 18 2015, 12:04 PM)
Used AP set Z Ultra for 1 year 2 months and still rocking solid. flex.gif
just battery degraded.
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waterproof issue hardly to say.. i worry i hand gatal and go play water with Z3 dual, then die.. 2k gone..

QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 18 2015, 12:50 PM)
If ap set mobo died within warranty period,will they changed it?
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if no mistaken, warranty 2 years only limited to software, which i can do my own.. for hardware parts, some 3 months, some 6 months. wont more than 1 years..

warranty easily get void by certain circumstance.. at least ori will qualify in 1 years on all parts..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ May 18 2015, 01:06 PM)
waterproof issue hardly to say.. i worry i hand gatal and go play water with Z3 dual, then die.. 2k gone..
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Mine still waterproof. flex.gif
Last month ditch the phone into water and still okay.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ May 18 2015, 01:22 PM)
Mine still waterproof. flex.gif
Last month ditch the phone into water and still okay.
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great to hear that.. i will reconsider again all the possible phone and decide.. wait for m4 and see the 8gb/16gb and pricing.. ^^

now zenfone 2 highly in my list.. got double tap to wake, performance ok, dual sim, 5mp front, no waterproof only.. if i purchase zenfone 2, i will install xperia launcher on it.. ^^
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ May 18 2015, 01:59 PM)
great to hear that.. i will reconsider again all the possible phone and decide.. wait for m4 and see the 8gb/16gb and pricing.. ^^

now zenfone 2 highly in my list.. got double tap to wake, performance ok, dual sim, 5mp front, no waterproof only.. if i purchase zenfone 2, i will install xperia launcher on it.. ^^
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ May 18 2015, 02:09 PM)
Once used Sony, never had idea to jump ship although other brands are tempting too.
after my drastic experience with Lenovo, I made the right move by switching to Sony.
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QUOTE(silentsunami @ May 18 2015, 02:45 PM)
Asus software still a bit lacking behind other manafacturer
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Have to agree with that. Even with zenfone 2, the OS is 5.0, not 5.0.2
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ May 18 2015, 02:09 PM)
Once used Sony, never had idea to jump ship although other brands are tempting too.
after my drastic experience with Lenovo, I made the right move by switching to Sony.
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yeah.. that's why.. if not, there are a lot like huawei honor, zenfone 2, and others i ady jump ship.. i used to sony UI and camera UI.. the reason why i stay and wait.. previously wait until saw z3 dual, thought got chance.. manatau.. nvm, until recently saw m4 aqua.. although not flagship, but performance should be on par with my ZL.. that's the reason why i wait m4 aqua.. it seem Msia will bring dual sim version.. i guess june will launch it.. i will wait until m4 aqua dual launch only decide.. just within this period, i do survey other phone as well..
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ May 18 2015, 02:09 PM)
Once used Sony, never had idea to jump ship although other brands are tempting too.
after my drastic experience with Lenovo, I made the right move by switching to Sony.
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Agreed. Lenovo is the last in my list if im going to purchase phone.(except for vibe z2 pro)
Hate zen ui so badly and zenfone(intel proc) are nightmares for me
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QUOTE(silentsunami @ May 18 2015, 02:45 PM)
Asus software still a bit lacking behind other manafacturer
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Yeah zen ui is not polished. Been working part time at smartphone stores and 80% of the warranty claims are from asus zenfone. Haha
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 18 2015, 04:40 PM)
Agreed. Lenovo is the last in my list if im going to purchase phone.(except for vibe z2 pro)
Hate zen ui so badly and zenfone(intel proc) are nightmares for me
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 18 2015, 04:42 PM)
Yeah zen ui is not polished. Been working part time at smartphone stores and 80% of the warranty claims are from asus zenfone. Haha
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Zenfone is okay but nightmare is the warranty. It's even worse than Sony.
you might wanna read how bad Asus service is at mobile computing section.

And I never liked Intel processors after my first smartphone, Lenovo K900. It overheats faster and drain battery like water. shakehead.gif
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http://www.lowyat.net/2015/05/sony-malaysi...m4-aqua-and-c4/

coming soon already.. as teased by sony website and in fb also do indicate coming soon.. might be 3 products launch together..

pricing for C4 and M4 are critical.. Z4 tablet might surely above 2k i guess..

hopefully C4 and M4 come with 16gb internal, jsut different between screen size, resolution, processor and mainly differences proselfie and waterproof..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ May 19 2015, 11:35 AM)
http://www.lowyat.net/2015/05/sony-malaysi...m4-aqua-and-c4/

coming soon already.. as teased by sony website and in fb also do indicate coming soon.. might be 3 products launch together..

pricing for C4 and M4 are critical.. Z4 tablet might surely above 2k i guess..

hopefully C4 and M4 come with 16gb internal, jsut different between screen size, resolution, processor and mainly differences proselfie and waterproof..
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ May 19 2015, 11:38 AM)
just saw it this morning. hope it launch faster. biggrin.gif
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waiting on both of it.. hmm.. both like dont have MHL support.. not too sure, but have to wait the item launch and check on it.. from gsmarena, m4 aqua do not have MHL support.. not sure whether will further update by software in future.. or else M4 and C4 might not able to TV-Out.. although this is not significant to most users..
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MTK is not as bad as everyone thinks, if its that bad Sony wouldnt use it for their midrangers and HTC wouldnt use on the flagships

here's a comparision between MTK6752 vs Snapdragon 615......not a fair comparison but roughly give you an idea how well the chipset is compared to aeons ago
http://www.gizchina.com/2015/02/09/mediate...snapdragon-615/
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QUOTE(JonSpark @ May 20 2015, 07:08 PM)
MTK is not as bad as everyone thinks, if its that bad Sony wouldnt use it for their midrangers and HTC wouldnt use on the flagships

here's a comparision between MTK6752 vs Snapdragon 615......not a fair comparison but roughly give you an idea how well the chipset is compared to aeons ago
http://www.gizchina.com/2015/02/09/mediate...snapdragon-615/
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http://digital.sina.com.hk/news/7/20150520/4412023/

launched in HK, soon in Msia i guess.. for the pricing in HK, C4 DUal is expensive than M4 Dual.. so be expected same goes to here around rm100 difference between both model.. most probably due to 720p vs 1080p screen and bigger battery capacity size in C4.
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ May 21 2015, 10:03 AM)
http://digital.sina.com.hk/news/7/20150520/4412023/

launched in HK, soon in Msia i guess.. for the pricing in HK, C4 DUal is expensive than M4 Dual.. so be expected same goes to here around rm100 difference between both model.. most probably due to 720p vs 1080p screen and bigger battery capacity size in C4.
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so that makes M4 Aqua 1299 and C4 1399 after conversion. sweat.gif
that pricing is quite steep.

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ May 21 2015, 11:05 AM)
so that makes M4 Aqua 1299 and C4 1399 after conversion. sweat.gif
that pricing is quite steep.
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some sorts like this.. Almost same as what im estimate for M4.. C4 expensive.

hmm.. M4 and C4.. will look into it..
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taiwan price leak suggest that the C4 price increase compare to C3, so i think the trend will be the same in malaysia. C4 retail price is TWD10900 in taiwan


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I questioned Sony officers and they say these 3 new models ETA June.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ May 25 2015, 12:11 PM)
I questioned Sony officers and they say these 3 new models ETA June.
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Z4 tablet expected price will be? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 25 2015, 12:23 PM)
Z4 tablet expected price will be? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ May 25 2015, 12:30 PM)
To be known. icon_idea.gif
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same as Z2 price when launched? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 25 2015, 12:31 PM)
same as Z2 price when launched?  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 25 2015, 12:31 PM)
same as Z2 price when launched?  biggrin.gif
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Taiwan price cheaper than Z2 tablet... rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(silentsunami @ May 25 2015, 01:56 PM)
Taiwan price cheaper than Z2 tablet... rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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If direct convert from Taiwan hiow much? But i know i shud expect higher price in my. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 25 2015, 04:23 PM)
If direct convert from Taiwan hiow much? But i know i shud expect higher price in my.  sweat.gif
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if convert to RM sure around 2k one for wifi version
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QUOTE(silentsunami @ May 25 2015, 11:32 AM)
taiwan price leak suggest that the C4 price increase compare to C3, so i think the trend will be the same in malaysia. C4 retail price is TWD10900 in taiwan
SOS
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taiwan rrp is based on single sim C4.. in Msia will get dual sim if not mistaken. so price definitely higher somemore..

if based on HK sony RRP, in malaysia would be RM1299 for M4 Aqua Dual and RM1399 C4 Dual.

http://m.digital.sina.com.hk/news/article/4412023/1/20150520


For consumers perspective, i do hope each model can have another RM50~100 drop from what i estimate..
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QUOTE(silentsunami @ May 25 2015, 01:56 PM)
Taiwan price cheaper than Z2 tablet... rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 25 2015, 04:23 PM)
If direct convert from Taiwan hiow much? But i know i shud expect higher price in my.  sweat.gif
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if based on HK RRP for Z4 tablet LTE, price would be rm2499 like that.. for wifi version i guess at least RM2099..
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FYI, by today Sony China will announced new phone.. i guess is Z4.. Tmr Sony TW will announce and 28th May Sony HK will got event as well..

Within these 3 days, we may see how is the Z4 or Z3+.. just wait for it and see.. probably in Malaysia will get it too, but might slower..

For M4,C4, Z4 tablet, sony mobile MY will start on early of June as other countries..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ May 26 2015, 08:46 AM)
FYI, by today Sony China will announced new phone.. i guess is Z4.. Tmr Sony TW will announce and 28th May Sony HK will got event as well..

Within these 3 days, we may see how is the Z4 or Z3+.. just wait for it and see.. probably in Malaysia will get it too, but might slower..

For M4,C4, Z4 tablet, sony mobile MY will start on early of June as other countries..
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from what i read, Z4 will be announced in HK and TW in latter days. not sure what model will it be marketed as, either Z4 or Z3+
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ May 26 2015, 11:39 AM)
from what i read, Z4 will be announced in HK and TW in latter days. not sure what model will it be marketed as, either Z4 or Z3+
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i believe will be still as Z4.. let's see within these few days.. they do have specific event by each region Sony Mobile..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ May 26 2015, 08:46 AM)
FYI, by today Sony China will announced new phone.. i guess is Z4.. Tmr Sony TW will announce and 28th May Sony HK will got event as well..

Within these 3 days, we may see how is the Z4 or Z3+.. just wait for it and see.. probably in Malaysia will get it too, but might slower..

For M4,C4, Z4 tablet, sony mobile MY will start on early of June as other countries..
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Just interested on the Z4 tablet.haha
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 26 2015, 01:30 PM)
Just  interested on the Z4 tablet.haha
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expect rm2099 for wifi version and rm2499 for LTE version..
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so today Sony Mobile China announced Xperia Z3+ Dual Sim..

Tomorrow Sony Mobile TW and Coming Sony Mobile HK.. Not sure Sony Mobile MY will announce it or not.. International version of Xperia Z4 = called xperia z3+
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When launch ah this phone in Malaysia? Taiwan and HK already have retail units
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QUOTE(silentsunami @ Jun 3 2015, 04:37 PM)
When launch ah this phone in Malaysia? Taiwan and HK already have retail units
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This month. smile.gif
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 3 2015, 04:57 PM)
This month. smile.gif
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This month baru start wor...haha..u know malaysia version is C4 or C4 Dual?
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QUOTE(silentsunami @ Jun 3 2015, 05:10 PM)
This month baru start wor...haha..u know malaysia version is C4 or C4 Dual?
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No news from internal side yet. smile.gif
I assume both variants available.
M4 aqua confirmed got dual.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 3 2015, 06:20 PM)
No news from internal side yet. smile.gif
I assume both variants available.
M4 aqua confirmed got dual.
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m4 Dual is confirmed in malaysia. C4 should be dual version as well.. RRP is the people waiting right now..
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Sony Malaysia very slow.
Huawei honor 6 drop price to RM899
Mi4i launch.
Zenfone2

Surely eat up Sony's market share.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_c4_and...-news-12543.php

they started to ship out now. still waiting updates from internal side.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 6 2015, 10:56 AM)
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_c4_and...-news-12543.php

they started to ship out now. still waiting updates from internal side.
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QUOTE(sickx @ Jun 7 2015, 12:34 PM)
Related?
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No confirmation from internal side.
somehow the hashtag makes it more related.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 7 2015, 01:45 PM)
No confirmation from internal side.
somehow the hashtag makes it more related.
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11st June.. Sony Malaysia invitation for the launch.. so, all new devices are coming soon..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 8 2015, 06:03 PM)
11st June..  Sony Malaysia invitation for the launch.. so, all new devices are coming soon..
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Wow...hopefully the price is good
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M4 aqua 999, possible?
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QUOTE(monocle @ Jun 8 2015, 07:49 PM)
M4 aqua 999, possible?
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QUOTE(monocle @ Jun 8 2015, 07:49 PM)
M4 aqua 999, possible?
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unlikely.. based on RRP from other countries, i guess rm1299 for M4 aqua and Rm1399 for C4..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 8 2015, 08:54 PM)
unlikely.. based on RRP from other countries, i guess rm1299 for M4 aqua and Rm1399 for C4..
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Wow that's high.. hopefully z2 price will drop further.. still waiting for m4 aqua pricing before deciding
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 8 2015, 08:54 PM)
unlikely.. based on RRP from other countries, i guess rm1299 for M4 aqua and Rm1399 for C4..
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Wow...that's really very high compare to C3 which only sell RM899-999. If C4 selling for RM1299, might as well buy Z3 AP set which selling for RM1600++

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QUOTE(monocle @ Jun 8 2015, 09:26 PM)
Wow that's high.. hopefully z2 price will drop further.. still waiting for m4 aqua pricing before deciding
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QUOTE(silentsunami @ Jun 8 2015, 10:50 PM)
Wow...that's really very high compare to C3 which only sell RM899-999. If C4 selling for RM1299, might as well buy Z3  AP set which selling for RM1600++
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yeah.. wait for coming few days and decide later.. me also waiting for the final pricing from malaysia.. cant decide to get m4 aqua or z3 now.. z3+ seem got heating issue.. or else wait again.. but waiting game are too long way to go.
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 9 2015, 09:37 AM)
yeah.. wait for coming few days and decide later.. me also waiting for the final pricing from malaysia.. cant decide to get m4 aqua or z3 now.. z3+ seem got heating issue.. or else wait again.. but waiting game are too long way to go.
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If m4 aqua is 999 I will go for it..
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QUOTE(monocle @ Jun 9 2015, 09:52 AM)
If m4 aqua is 999 I will go for it..
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Sony Mobile MY had confirmed it's Xperia M4 Aqua Dual. I guess Dual version come with 16gb internal storage as india and hong kong. in HK, price at HKD2698.. which convert to MYR is close to 1299.. unlikely will be 999.. due to 8gb internal storage was definitely not sufficient and dont have market. (if Sony MY do launch 8gb model, i doubt they got people buy). So here i estimate both M4 aqua and C4 will come with dual sim version and 16gb for both.. just M4 for waterproof, while C4 aim better performance and better selfie camera..
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On 13th June, they gonna let users to experience Z4 tablet at KLCC.
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 9 2015, 02:24 PM)
Sony Mobile MY had confirmed it's Xperia M4 Aqua Dual. I guess Dual version come with 16gb internal storage as india and hong kong. in HK, price at HKD2698.. which convert to MYR is close to 1299.. unlikely will be 999.. due to 8gb internal storage was definitely not sufficient and dont have market. (if Sony MY do launch 8gb model, i doubt they got people buy). So here i estimate both M4 aqua and C4 will come with dual sim version and 16gb for both.. just M4 for waterproof, while C4 aim better performance and better selfie camera..
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Sony Xperia C4, M4 Aqua and Z4 tablet to feature My Xperia Thief Protection. It's Sony's bootloader to prevent theft from using your phone, just like iPhone. I see it as a great plus as if someone wipes your phone via flashtool, it will render the phone useless.

http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/06/09/my-xp...gainst-thieves/
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 10 2015, 02:34 AM)
Sony Xperia C4, M4 Aqua and Z4 tablet to feature My Xperia Thief Protection. It's Sony's bootloader to prevent theft from using your phone, just like iPhone. I see it as a great plus as if someone wipes your phone via flashtool, it will render the phone useless.

http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/06/09/my-xp...gainst-thieves/
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yeah.. this will be big step from android.. the biggest flaws from android is people can flash and wipe the rom easily especially battery removable..

the only prevention is for battery non removable device may try to block the power menu from people attempt to turn off the device.. and got few hours to locate back.. but this MXTP will be better for theft protection.. at least everyone will not able to use the phone.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 10 2015, 02:34 AM)
Sony Xperia C4, M4 Aqua and Z4 tablet to feature My Xperia Thief Protection. It's Sony's bootloader to prevent theft from using your phone, just like iPhone. I see it as a great plus as if someone wipes your phone via flashtool, it will render the phone useless.

http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/06/09/my-xp...gainst-thieves/
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How about the previous models? No update to have that feature?
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ Jun 10 2015, 10:43 AM)
How about the previous models? No update to have that feature?
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today launch for C4?
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QUOTE(silentsunami @ Jun 11 2015, 11:00 AM)
today launch for C4?
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QUOTE(silentsunami @ Jun 11 2015, 11:45 AM)
no launch event?
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QUOTE(Tinkai @ Jun 11 2015, 01:55 PM)
Aqua dual, 8GB internal..
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No price for C4 one cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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LOL.. RM969.. fully wrong expected.. but 8gb dual sim version.. price is ok for me.. but storage wise..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 11 2015, 02:19 PM)
LOL.. RM969.. fully wrong expected.. but 8gb dual sim version.. price is ok for me.. but storage wise..
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 11 2015, 02:20 PM)
You might wanna see C4 dual. M4 aqua might not be your cup of coffee. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(monocle @ Jun 11 2015, 01:57 PM)
Aqua dual, 8GB internal..
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http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/06/07/sony-...xperia-m4-aqua/

reported by xperiablog, there are lesser available storage for 8gb m4 aqua.. if 1.73gb.. really not much left.. although 5.0 support for move apps to sd card.. it's not gaming device.. only useful for those need dual sim with waterproof feature like me.. i will consider about it, and check my own usage and compare with all review on net then only decide.. rm969 is good in term of pricing.. .. one thing i wonder is no strap hole for the m4 aqua.. i cant find the strap hole for m4 aqua.. so hardly to bring it to beach or pool.
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QUOTE(Tinkai @ Jun 11 2015, 01:55 PM)
one of the reason less than 1k is because of 8gb internal storage and HSPA connectivity only.. other dual sim version will get LTE support and 16gb internal storage..

i guess Sony Malaysia want to get significant differentiate between M4 Aqua and C4 aqua..

M4 Aqua 8 gb, no LTE, waterproof, mid range performance
C4 16gb, LTE, selfie pro, above mid range performance..
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QUOTE(silentsunami @ Jun 11 2015, 02:15 PM)
No price for C4 one  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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C4 someone in garage sales (ikenny) listed 1199
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QUOTE(Tinkai @ Jun 11 2015, 03:24 PM)
C4 someone in garage sales (ikenny) listed 1199
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1199 way cheaper than expected.. RRP might be higher a little with rm100, rm1299?!
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 11 2015, 03:59 PM)
1199 way cheaper than expected.. RRP might be higher a little with rm100, rm1299?!
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QUOTE(silentsunami @ Jun 11 2015, 04:38 PM)
i think that guy is putting RRP, M4 also he put RRP
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so 1199 not bad for that kind of specs.. will keep my eyes on both reviews and hands on both phone whenever they hit into the sony store.
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 11 2015, 07:37 PM)
so 1199 not bad for that kind of specs.. will keep my eyes on both reviews and hands on both phone whenever they hit into the sony store.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 11 2015, 07:47 PM)
Get the money ready for it first. icon_idea.gif
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money always ready.. just depend on me whether want to get them or not.. LOL.. probably not m4 aqua.. due to 8gb internal and qualcomm heating issue..
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from soyacincau.com, M4 Aqua 8gb internal storage, user available memory is 2.9gb.. different from xperiablog reported that only 1.27gb available..

http://www.soyacincau.com/2015/06/11/sony-...ed-in-malaysia/

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 11 2015, 10:09 PM)
from soyacincau.com, M4 Aqua 8gb internal storage, user available memory is 2.9gb.. different from xperiablog reported that only 1.27gb available..

http://www.soyacincau.com/2015/06/11/sony-...ed-in-malaysia/
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 11 2015, 10:48 PM)
different countries have different bloat i guess.
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i do check my ZL usage and compare with the memory available in xperia m4 Aqua.. it's not really sufficient to me.. but i will look forward for it as well.. support HSPA is ok for me.. i believe 3G is sufficient for me and much more stable than LTE. just storage wise..

i will look forward for xperia C4 pricing.. =)
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when is the exact date for C4 and M4 Aqua start sales?
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when is the exact date for C4 and M4 Aqua start sales?
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when is the exact date for C4 and M4 Aqua start sales?
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As of their Facebook page, the M4 Aqua start for sale tomorrow. No news for C4 yet.

https://m.facebook.com/notes/sony-mobile-my...011302232215753

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 18 2015, 12:14 PM)
As of their Facebook page, the M4 Aqua start for sale tomorrow. No news for C4 yet.

https://m.facebook.com/notes/sony-mobile-my...011302232215753
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correct..directd start selling black unit at rm879 which is rm90 cheaper than RRP.. consider the 8gb mmc just rm20.. consumer still get cost saving rm70..

after my survey, i found m4 aqua and c4 both also suits to me.. im also struggling on which phone between these 2..
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by the way, that ikenny guy in garage sales changed his C4 price to rm1299.
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by the way, that ikenny guy in garage sales changed his C4 price to rm1299.
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directd selling M4 Aqua Dual RM879
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correct..directd start selling black unit at rm879 which is rm90 cheaper than RRP.. consider the 8gb mmc just rm20.. consumer still get cost saving rm70..

after my survey, i found m4 aqua and c4 both also suits to me.. im also struggling on which phone between these 2..
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Go gor c4 with full hd screen.....
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Go gor c4 with full hd screen.....
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will go hands on the M4 aqua on weekend if available.. not sure any demo unit available in store or not.. if able to hands on, of course have to try up and see whether it really heat up or not while browsing, youtube and etc.. need hands on only will get know of it..

if S615 do have unreasonable heat issue, i will rather keep it since 8gb is ady 1 down point.. i will look into C4 then.. basically im looking a dual sim phone.. but out there are quite numbers of dual sim phone, but im used to Sony phone and UI.. so i want stick back to Sony..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 19 2015, 03:15 PM)
will go hands on the M4 aqua on weekend if available.. not sure any demo unit available in store or not.. if able to hands on, of course have to try up and see whether it really heat up or not while browsing, youtube and etc.. need hands on only will get know of it..

if S615 do have unreasonable heat issue, i will rather keep it since 8gb is ady 1 down point.. i will look into C4 then.. basically im looking a dual sim phone.. but out there are quite numbers of dual sim phone, but im used to Sony phone and UI.. so i want stick back to Sony..
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Unfortunately, my email from internal states that it's an activation launch, means to create awareness. It doesn't reach my store yet too.

Oh, and I'm discussing with internal side to bring the LTE variant too, with 16GB. icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 19 2015, 03:25 PM)
Unfortunately, my email from internal states that it's an activation launch, means to create awareness. It doesn't reach my store yet too.

Oh, and I'm discussing with internal side to bring the LTE variant too, with 16GB. icon_idea.gif
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i dont think they will bring in LTE 16gb one.. since i guess they want differentiate by segment.. since upper on it do have 16gb C4.

but not sure la.. this is just my opinion.. but if bring it in is good.. taiwan bring in 16gb.. much more usable.. although it heat, just throw into water.. LOL
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 19 2015, 03:15 PM)
will go hands on the M4 aqua on weekend if available.. not sure any demo unit available in store or not.. if able to hands on, of course have to try up and see whether it really heat up or not while browsing, youtube and etc.. need hands on only will get know of it..

if S615 do have unreasonable heat issue, i will rather keep it since 8gb is ady 1 down point.. i will look into C4 then.. basically im looking a dual sim phone.. but out there are quite numbers of dual sim phone, but im used to Sony phone and UI.. so i want stick back to Sony..
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Yea , summore tat m4 aqua gt qualcomn quad core processor..... m4 auqa aleardy released in msia , rite with RRP969??
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jun 19 2015, 05:39 PM)
Yea , summore tat m4 aqua gt qualcomn quad core processor..... m4 auqa aleardy released in msia , rite with RRP969??
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It's octa core, and yes.
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 19 2015, 03:30 PM)
i dont think they will bring in LTE 16gb one.. since i guess they want differentiate by segment.. since upper on it do have 16gb C4.

but not sure la.. this is just my opinion.. but if bring it in is good.. taiwan bring in 16gb.. much more usable.. although it heat, just throw into water.. LOL
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 20 2015, 02:23 PM)
It's here. smile.gif
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 20 2015, 02:23 PM)
It's here. smile.gif
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QUOTE(2kia @ Jun 20 2015, 05:57 PM)
What is here bro?
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i guess the M4 aqua dual Black colour arrived in his sony store..

so raymondtong, try hands on and give some feedback to me.. i didnt go to the nortern area selected shop to hands on yet.. cause i think too far and not convenient for me now.. maybe you can give me first hand hands on and summarize review and see.. i want know it isnt super hot until not comfort to hold it.. Im using ZL.. sometime it will be warm up until hand palm sweating.. me normal fb, whatsapp, chrome surfing and youtube only..

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 20 2015, 06:52 PM)
i guess the M4 aqua dual Black colour arrived in his sony store..

so raymondtong, try hands on and give some feedback to me.. i didnt go to the nortern area selected shop to hands on yet.. cause i think too far and not convenient for me now.. maybe you can give me first hand hands on and summarize review and see.. i want know it isnt super hot until not comfort to hold it.. Im using ZL.. sometime it will be warm up until hand palm sweating.. me normal fb, whatsapp, chrome surfing and youtube only..
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Hmm I was hoping he meant the LTE 16GB dual sim model tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 20 2015, 06:52 PM)
i guess the M4 aqua dual Black colour arrived in his sony store..

so raymondtong, try hands on and give some feedback to me.. i didnt go to the nortern area selected shop to hands on yet.. cause i think too far and not convenient for me now.. maybe you can give me first hand hands on and summarize review and see.. i want know it isnt super hot until not comfort to hold it.. Im using ZL.. sometime it will be warm up until hand palm sweating.. me normal fb, whatsapp, chrome surfing and youtube only..
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If you are under data use, that's quite common. However, I'm trying with Wifi.

QUOTE(2kia @ Jun 20 2015, 07:07 PM)
Hmm I was hoping he meant the LTE 16GB dual sim model tongue.gif
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haha.. no official info from sony mobile my.. so just 8gb 3G.. no LTE for me its fine.. since my data just 3gb.. important is daily usage.. 8gb really too less..16gb is ok.. for those gaming ppl, definitely wont choose it ady.. who driving motor, outdoor always, i suggest get a waterproof device.. me jogging outdoor mostly..
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 20 2015, 07:09 PM)
If you are under data use, that's quite common. However, I'm trying with Wifi.
I had feedback that to the superior in Sony MY.
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Hope to hear some good news from u then! =D

QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 20 2015, 07:12 PM)
haha.. no official info from sony mobile my.. so just 8gb 3G.. no LTE for me its fine.. since my data just 3gb.. important is daily usage.. 8gb really too less..16gb is ok.. for those gaming ppl, definitely wont choose it ady.. who driving motor, outdoor always, i suggest get a waterproof device.. me jogging outdoor mostly..
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a little bit of price check: aaronac on garage sales put rm1179 as the price.


honestly, I don't mind if the price is below rm1200 but above that, I think I'd rather get a second hand z3 compact.


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ChuanHong i tested M4 Aqua. Well, the heat is above moderate, or should I put it under warm category. However, since my workplace is in air cond area, i can't feel so many heat.

EDIT : M4 Aqua is a hot selling phone. Today day 2 and it's cleared.

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 21 2015, 03:10 PM)
ChuanHong i tested M4 Aqua. Well, the heat is above moderate, or should I put it under warm category. However, since my workplace is in air cond area, i can't feel so many heat.

EDIT : M4 Aqua is a hot selling phone. Today day 2 and it's cleared.
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so the overheating issue is real? why is there no official discussion thread for m4? ohmy.gif
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so the overheating issue is real? why is there no official discussion thread for m4?  ohmy.gif
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Have to say it's quite true but in air conditioned area, the heat is not exaggerate.

I will open a discussion thread soon.
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Tried the M4 for awhile today at Sony store in the shopping mall(air-con of cause).
No games or data for internet, so i video recorded(not sure about the video res/quality, i did it without any setting) for about 2 minutes. Not until level of uncomfortable warm but the heat was there. The sales staff told me that water-proof handset is like that one...
Additional info, about 2GB++ of free memory out of 8GB.

Was considering M4 & C4 and favor to the latter now, since the heating issue is true and is bugging me. Note i use the word heating instead of overheat because i yet to test the device until overly warm without heavy games or downloading.

The only not so good about the C4 in my personal opinion is just the 2600mAh is too much for the 5.5 FHD screen? What's your guys thought?

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 21 2015, 03:10 PM)
ChuanHong i tested M4 Aqua. Well, the heat is above moderate, or should I put it under warm category. However, since my workplace is in air cond area, i can't feel so many heat.

EDIT : M4 Aqua is a hot selling phone. Today day 2 and it's cleared.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 21 2015, 04:42 PM)
Have to say it's quite true but in air conditioned area, the heat is not exaggerate.

I will open a discussion thread soon.
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thanks raymond. LOL.. i will go penang bukit jambul or sunway carnival to test out this week.. rm969 with capless waterproof.. with this feature also worth for few hundred ady... if 16gb version, lagi HOT..

QUOTE(imjustakit @ Jun 21 2015, 11:53 PM)
Tried the M4 for awhile today at Sony store in the shopping mall(air-con of cause).
No games or data for internet, so i video recorded(not sure about the video res/quality, i did it without any setting) for about 2 minutes. Not until level of uncomfortable warm but the heat was there. The sales staff told me that water-proof handset is like that one...
Additional info, about 2GB++ of free memory out of 8GB.

Was considering M4 & C4 and favor to the latter now, since the heating issue is true and is bugging me. Note i use the word heating instead of overheat because i yet to test the device until overly warm without heavy games or downloading.

The only not so good about the C4 in my personal opinion is just the 2600mAh is too much for the 5.5 FHD screen? What's your guys thought?
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same thought with you.. i think 2600mah should not sufficient for C4 5.5 1080p screen.. battery performance would be average.. but the advantage for it is selfie camera with flash and good specs inside.. M4 2400mah, 720p, battery performance should be better a bit.. from sony official webpage, they advertised m4 aqua can up to 2 days long while C4 doesnt..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 22 2015, 09:05 AM)
thanks raymond. LOL.. i will go penang bukit jambul or sunway carnival to test out this week.. rm969 with capless waterproof.. with this feature also worth for few hundred ady... if 16gb version, lagi HOT..
same thought with you.. i think 2600mah should not sufficient for C4 5.5 1080p screen.. battery performance would be average.. but the advantage for it is selfie camera with flash and good specs inside.. M4 2400mah, 720p, battery performance should be better a bit.. from sony official webpage, they advertised m4 aqua can up to 2 days long while C4 doesnt..
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ Jun 22 2015, 10:42 AM)
Seriously,mana mau cari below 1k waterproof phone these days? i would say worth for money la eventho the specs is not tat amazing.
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luckily China phone not waterproff, if china phone waterproof then sony can tapao d
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luckily China phone not waterproff, if china phone waterproof then sony can tapao d
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 22 2015, 11:08 AM)
why would you take a rendered image rather than real product? doh.gif
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can u take picture for us(since u can have actual product) to prove otherwise? biggrin.gif

and i think thats not rendered image but studio image.

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QUOTE(AmeiN @ Jun 22 2015, 11:16 AM)
can u take picture for us(since u can have actual product) to prove otherwise?  biggrin.gif

and i think thats not rendered image but studio image.
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Pls show some poison here drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif
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QUOTE(AmeiN @ Jun 22 2015, 11:16 AM)
can u take picture for us(since u can have actual product) to prove otherwise?  biggrin.gif

and i think thats not rendered image but studio image.
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QUOTE(silentsunami @ Jun 22 2015, 11:41 AM)
Pls show some poison here  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
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Wait for July then.
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Pls show some poison here  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
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yeah.. brows.gif
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https://store.sony.com.my/productlisting.aspx?catid=228

even now in sony store online also able to get M4 Aqual Dual now.. but only in black colour as well..

Sony Xperia C4, no news in global right now.. Malaysia announced that early of July only will know.. so the focus right now will be on M4 Aqua Dual..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 22 2015, 01:05 PM)
https://store.sony.com.my/productlisting.aspx?catid=228

even now in sony store online also able to get M4 Aqual Dual now.. but only in black colour as well..

Sony Xperia C4, no news in global right now.. Malaysia announced that early of July only will know.. so the focus right now will be on M4 Aqua Dual..
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Right. Only black at the moment.

First week of July, we will receive C4 dual.
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M4 Aqual really light, just now go feel the real unit. Midvalley Sony Centre sold out d, so high demand?
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QUOTE(silentsunami @ Jun 22 2015, 01:50 PM)
M4 Aqual really light, just now go feel the real unit. Midvalley Sony Centre sold out d, so high demand?
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RM969, dual SIM, waterproof.
So the demand is definitely high. brows.gif
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QUOTE(silentsunami @ Jun 22 2015, 01:50 PM)
M4 Aqual really light, just now go feel the real unit. Midvalley Sony Centre sold out d, so high demand?
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RM969, dual SIM, waterproof.
So the demand is definitely high. brows.gif
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QUOTE(silentsunami @ Jun 22 2015, 01:50 PM)
M4 Aqual really light, just now go feel the real unit. Midvalley Sony Centre sold out d, so high demand?
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some motor rider really need waterproof phone.. but only limited to normal usage.. not heavy gaming people.. m4 aqua population will be target on average daily usage ppl.. waterproof is a feature which may attract little group of people.. since its only 8gb, but m4 aqua do have 2gb ram, 5mp front and 13mp rear camera.. daily performance would be able to handle it very smoothly.. only the let down is 8gb internal and processor rumors that heating issue..

if 16gb variant announced in msia, i guess more sales..
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 22 2015, 02:11 PM)
RM969, dual SIM, waterproof.
So the demand is definitely high. brows.gif
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maybe you can create a thread for M4 aqua.. or else, combine both phone into 1 same thread.. since these 2 phone might not popular as other brand..
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maybe you can create a thread for M4 aqua.. or else, combine both phone into 1 same thread.. since these 2 phone might not popular as other brand..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 22 2015, 03:34 PM)
some motor rider really need waterproof phone.. but only limited to normal usage.. not heavy gaming people.. m4 aqua population will be target on average daily usage ppl.. waterproof is a feature which may attract little group of people.. since its only 8gb, but m4 aqua do have 2gb ram, 5mp front and 13mp rear camera.. daily performance would be able to handle it very smoothly.. only the let down is 8gb internal and processor rumors that heating issue..

if 16gb variant announced in msia, i guess more sales..
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The design of m4 > c4. Let alone the waterproof. I think the camera quality between those two not much diff kua.
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The design of m4 > c4. Let alone the waterproof. I think the camera quality between those two not much diff kua.
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i believe both camera quality likely the same except front camera for C4. C4 using exmor R for front camera with soft flash light.. definitely help in selfie quality.. each have different advantage.. from the processor, there are many phone using the same mediatek 6752.. performance also good.. together with 2gb of RAM, 16gb storage, definitely enough for most people. this consider mid end for 2015 standard, but probably is top mid end/low high end phone for 2014 standard.. with that price, definitely can compete with most phone out there except china manufacturer which offer much best value phone in market.. this C4 to compete samsung, htc, without problem..

m4 aqua should be target on mid end Z3.. which offer waterproof but with mid end hardware.. the only attraction point is capless microUSB port and offer IP68 waterproof up to 1.5 meters.. refresh with 5mp front camera for 2015 standard, offer 2gb of RAM and 8/16gb storage for different markets.. good design from Z3.. even in taiwan, offer 16gb variatns, TWD9900.. market price TWD8xxx.. convert to MYR just around rm1100 for RRP. very good deal bro.. pay half to get moderate hardware with waterproof.. just lack of software in Z3 which is offer much more rich features like slow mo, High res audio, G lens, 3gb ram, and others...

not all ppl want those things.. so rm1k like that to get m4 aqua is consider good deal.. although in msia offer 8gb variants, also get good feedback i guess.. when red and white unit available, also will sell as hot cake.. RM879 from DirectD.. why not?! in year end, i believe this phone drop to RM800.. waterproof phone in RM800, offer dual sim, 2gb ram..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 22 2015, 04:46 PM)
i believe both camera quality likely the same except front camera for C4. C4 using exmor R for front camera with soft flash light.. definitely help in selfie quality.. each have different advantage.. from the processor, there are many phone using the same mediatek 6752.. performance also good.. together with 2gb of RAM, 16gb storage, definitely enough for most people. this consider mid end for 2015 standard, but probably is top mid end/low high end phone for 2014 standard.. with that price, definitely can compete with most phone out there except china manufacturer which offer much best value phone in market.. this C4 to compete samsung, htc, without problem..

m4 aqua should be target on mid end Z3.. which offer waterproof but with mid end hardware.. the only attraction point is capless microUSB port and offer IP68 waterproof up to 1.5 meters.. refresh with 5mp front camera for 2015 standard, offer 2gb of RAM and 8/16gb storage for different markets.. good design from Z3.. even in taiwan, offer 16gb variatns, TWD9900.. market price TWD8xxx.. convert to MYR just around rm1100 for RRP. very good deal bro.. pay half to get moderate hardware with waterproof.. just lack of software in Z3 which is offer much more rich features like slow mo, High res audio, G lens, 3gb ram, and others...

not all ppl want those things.. so rm1k like that to get m4 aqua is consider good deal.. although in msia offer 8gb variants, also get good feedback i guess.. when red and white unit available, also will sell as hot cake.. RM879 from DirectD.. why not?! in year end, i believe this phone drop to RM800.. waterproof phone in RM800, offer dual sim, 2gb ram..
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Z3 got slow mo meh? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ Jun 22 2015, 05:31 PM)
Z3 got slow mo meh? hmm.gif
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Timeshift Video, 120fps on HD.

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Timeshift Video, 120fps on HD.
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Thanks. Now only tau> never use the timeshif video before sweat.gif
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Thanks. Now only tau> never use the timeshif video before  sweat.gif
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start from Z2 do have slow mo ady.. Yea, exact name called timeshift video.. currently these kind of features just open for Z2,Z3 compact and Z3 only.. i believe most processors ca support slow mo now.. but depend on manufacturer whether want to release or not.. seldom got people fully utilise the phone features.. so its depend on people.. low and mid end range devices will get more market share compare with flagship..

very interesting on phone competition between each manufacturer.. but see who willing to pay the bill for the manufacturer.. previous brainwash ady affect the trend.. samsung and apple.. but now situation changed.. aiming on best value phone.. lowest price with highest value.. xiaomi target on china and india strategy ady succeed..

Sony ady trying to deliver as much as they can, but still less people buy their product.. too elegant management thinking.. Bravia technology, high res audio, Sony CMOS lens, IPS screen now, waterproof, design, xperia Icon..
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my only concern is the 8gb internal. i know that its support external sd.. but certain apps like whatapps and FB cant be move to ext sd..
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QUOTE(colt45 @ Jun 23 2015, 08:23 AM)
my only concern is the 8gb internal. i know that its support external sd.. but certain apps like whatapps and FB cant be move to ext sd..
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for m4 aqua?? or C4.. if C4 confirm do have 16gb of internal storage.. if M4 aqua, then yes only 8gb.. 4gb for system, another 1gb for preinstalled apps. left another 2.9gb for users.. if you are current xperia user with 5.0 system installed, definitely u will know.. as you said, not all apps are able to move to sdcard..

move apps to sdcard.. only able to move the apps (not apps data).

but there some way to solve this problem which is root the phone.. if u just thinking to perform daily usage, surfing, youtube, social messaging.. i think m4 aqua its fine.. unless you want play a lot of games.. then definitely u have to root your phone or choose other phone

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 23 2015, 11:08 AM)
for m4 aqua?? or C4.. if C4 confirm do have 16gb of internal storage.. if M4 aqua, then yes only 8gb.. 4gb for system, another 1gb for preinstalled apps. left another 2.9gb for users.. if you are current xperia user with 5.0 system installed, definitely u will know.. as you said, not all apps are able to move to sdcard..

move apps to sdcard.. only able to move the apps (not apps data).

but there some way to solve this problem which is root the phone.. if u just thinking to perform daily usage, surfing, youtube, social messaging.. i think m4 aqua its fine.. unless you want play a lot of games.. then definitely u have to root your phone or choose other phone
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oo my bad..its for the m4 aqua.. btw im waiting for the red m4 aqua..so yummy
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QUOTE(colt45 @ Jun 23 2015, 11:11 AM)
oo my bad..its for the m4 aqua.. btw im waiting for the red m4 aqua..so yummy
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i prefer white.. ^^ if the red more sharp a little bit like ZL black red version, very attractive..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 23 2015, 12:41 PM)
i prefer white.. ^^ if the red more sharp a little bit like ZL black red version, very attractive..
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Coral is something like pinkish red. I don't think guys will like it. wink.gif
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Coral is something like pinkish red. I don't think guys will like it. wink.gif
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yea.. that is not cup of my tea.. mostly everything i will go to white.. my car, phone, ipad,
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 23 2015, 11:08 AM)
for m4 aqua?? or C4.. if C4 confirm do have 16gb of internal storage.. if M4 aqua, then yes only 8gb.. 4gb for system, another 1gb for preinstalled apps. left another 2.9gb for users.. if you are current xperia user with 5.0 system installed, definitely u will know.. as you said, not all apps are able to move to sdcard..

move apps to sdcard.. only able to move the apps (not apps data).

but there some way to solve this problem which is root the phone.. if u just thinking to perform daily usage, surfing, youtube, social messaging.. i think m4 aqua its fine.. unless you want play a lot of games.. then definitely u have to root your phone or choose other phone
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Yea 2GB++ available memory for Malaysia set (instead of 1GB+ for some regions) but bear in mind for one more important concern, the phone system update from time to time. Especially to solve the heating issue, a few updates are almost a must.

Design wise, M4 in black and red colors look way cooler and better than the white one due to the thick bezel especially on top and bottom (still smaller than most HTC? laugh.gif ). It is particularly noticeable when the screen is off. Anyway, it's just my personal opinion. Anyone feel the same way? Hehehe..
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btw, any real owner here?? for M4 aqua dual in msia.. no forumer going to get it??
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 23 2015, 09:55 PM)
btw, any real owner here?? for M4 aqua dual in msia.. no forumer going to get it??
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Not everyone in the forums wanna buy mid range phones. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kakikubesi @ Jun 24 2015, 04:56 PM)
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Coming July.
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Not everyone in the forums wanna buy mid range phones. tongue.gif
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forumer mainly focus on flagship or else best deal phone..

haha..
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 24 2015, 06:19 PM)
Coming July.
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Any price reference?
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Here you go http://www.ipmart.com.my/main/product/Sony...php?prod=502219
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Leaked in email, it's SRP is RM1299.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 25 2015, 12:24 PM)
Leaked in email, it's SRP is RM1299.
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What's SRP?
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QUOTE(sickx @ Jun 25 2015, 01:18 PM)
What's SRP?
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Suggested Retail Price
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Oh any difference between SRP and RRP? It still can be lower than that right?
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QUOTE(sickx @ Jun 25 2015, 01:24 PM)
Oh any difference between SRP and RRP? It still can be lower than that right?
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 25 2015, 01:25 PM)
SRP = RRP
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QUOTE(sickx @ Jun 25 2015, 01:27 PM)
Lol i thought got difference sweat.gif
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both are same meaning.. basically people will use RRP.

Recommended retail price = SRP = Suggested.. same meaning..

If rm1299 for C4.. ok lo.. not bad.. dual sim, 16gb, 2gb ram, 5mp front, 13mp back and mediatek 6572.. very good in processor power and GPU.. jsut not sure how long the battery life and go on with 5.5 1080p and 2600mah..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 25 2015, 01:30 PM)
both are same meaning.. basically people will use RRP.

Recommended retail price = SRP = Suggested.. same meaning..

If rm1299 for C4.. ok lo.. not bad.. dual sim, 16gb, 2gb ram, 5mp front, 13mp back and mediatek 6572.. very good in processor power and GPU.. jsut not sure how long the battery life and go on with 5.5 1080p and 2600mah..
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agreed. my only worry is the battery life. if can last at least 4 hrs SOT is good enough for me. if not, like i said previously, i'd rather take a second hand z3.

btw raymondtong94 sony got any raya promo or not? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sickx @ Jun 25 2015, 02:54 PM)
agreed. my only worry is the battery life. if can last at least 4 hrs SOT is good enough for me. if not, like i said previously, i'd rather take a second hand z3.

btw raymondtong94 sony got any raya promo or not?  tongue.gif
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Got, will start on 26 June. Stay tune and I will update.
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By the way, i will merge this thread with M4 Aqua under abang ChuanHong's suggestion. I'm pretty sure we won't get so many active posts if i open a dedicated thread.
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Garage sale got people selling RM1179

Xperia C4

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Got, will start on 26 June. Stay tune and I will update.
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promo for which item?? M4 aqua still free 8gb microSD only lo..


QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 25 2015, 03:00 PM)
By the way, i will merge this thread with M4 Aqua under abang ChuanHong's suggestion. I'm pretty sure we won't get so many active posts if i open a dedicated thread.
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haha.. i dont believe do have many interests from people.. maybe after C4 sales start then may observe it again.. because personally im waiting the sales and hands on..
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QUOTE(sickx @ Jun 25 2015, 02:54 PM)
agreed. my only worry is the battery life. if can last at least 4 hrs SOT is good enough for me. if not, like i said previously, i'd rather take a second hand z3.

btw raymondtong94 sony got any raya promo or not?  tongue.gif
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After 4 hrs of SOT with maximum brightness for youtube with WIFI, left 6%.
The HK reviewer claims that it could goes far than that since in real life is unlikely to go max brightness which is hurtful to the eyes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3005Hb_d-E (Cantonese review)
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oh Sony MY already starts the preorder

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QUOTE(Atsumori @ Jun 25 2015, 10:45 PM)
can i buy sony phone using installment fr debit card?
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great to saw the pre-order screen for C4.. wefie stick and 16gb microSD total maybe cause rm60 out there.. let's see the pricing in directd.. or any extra warranty from Sony Store or not..

RM1159 from directd. http://www.lelong.com.my/sony-xperia-c4-du...7-01-Sale-I.htm

Ready stock right now for all colours.

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 26 2015, 08:59 AM)
great to saw the pre-order screen for C4.. wefie stick and 16gb microSD total maybe cause rm60 out there.. let's see the pricing in directd.. or any extra warranty from Sony Store or not..

RM1159 from directd. http://www.lelong.com.my/sony-xperia-c4-du...7-01-Sale-I.htm

Ready stock right now for all colours.
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 26 2015, 08:59 AM)
great to saw the pre-order screen for C4.. wefie stick and 16gb microSD total maybe cause rm60 out there.. let's see the pricing in directd.. or any extra warranty from Sony Store or not..

RM1159 from directd. http://www.lelong.com.my/sony-xperia-c4-du...7-01-Sale-I.htm

Ready stock right now for all colours.
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It's worth RM112.
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It's worth RM112.
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rm112 is Sony said.. Maybe 16gb microSD class 10 we can get at rm30-.. selfie stick maybe rm30 too.. but sony brand one probably higher price..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 26 2015, 02:07 PM)
rm112 is Sony said.. Maybe 16gb microSD class 10 we can get at rm30-.. selfie stick maybe rm30 too.. but sony brand one probably higher price..
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Hahaha....sony brand alone worth RM60 ler
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QUOTE(silentsunami @ Jun 26 2015, 02:52 PM)
Hahaha....sony brand alone worth RM60 ler
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https://www.facebook.com/notes/sony-mobile-...017333518279291

Sony Raya promotion much more better or useful.. 16gb microSD and aluminium case for C4.. same price 1299.. until july..

other model available too.. M4 aqua free 16gb microSD and tumble.. better than initial offer 8gb microSD..

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 26 2015, 03:22 PM)
https://www.facebook.com/notes/sony-mobile-...017333518279291

Sony Raya promotion much more better or useful.. 16gb microSD and aluminium case for C4.. same price 1299.. until july..

other model available too.. M4 aqua free 16gb microSD and tumble.. better than initial offer 8gb microSD..
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ah.. this promo is better. who needs a selfie stick when you have a long hand tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sickx @ Jun 26 2015, 03:36 PM)
ah.. this promo is better. who needs a selfie stick when you have a long hand  tongue.gif
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Any news on the coral color m4 Aqua?
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QUOTE(colt45 @ Jun 26 2015, 11:34 PM)
Any news on the coral color m4 Aqua?
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Guys wht do u think... Z1 compact vs m4 Aqua..
Price arid the same...
1 year ago flagship vs current midrange..
Help me decide for my gal..
She love Sony and most of the time only uses whatapp
No gaming at all
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QUOTE(colt45 @ Jun 27 2015, 07:12 AM)
Guys wht do u think... Z1 compact vs m4 Aqua..
Price arid the same...
1 year ago flagship vs current midrange..
Help me decide for my gal..
She love Sony and most of the time only uses whatapp
No gaming at all
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M4 Aqua will be decent then. but if she opt for more internal storage, can go for Z1C.
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I'm in front of Sony store.. Last unit black here. Buy or not.
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 27 2015, 11:55 AM)
I'm in front of Sony store.. Last unit black here. Buy or not.
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M4 aqua? So you bought it or not? Lol
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QUOTE(sickx @ Jun 27 2015, 02:08 PM)
M4 aqua? So you bought it or not? Lol
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 27 2015, 03:42 PM)
Still walking around. That sales girl saw me few rounds liao. My gf haven't agree so can't buy yet.
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If z3+ need walk how many rounds. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ Jun 27 2015, 03:47 PM)
If z3+ need walk how many rounds. sweat.gif
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Just wondering. Is Malaysian set of Xperia m4 Aqua dual support LTE?
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QUOTE(amdx @ Jun 27 2015, 06:46 PM)
Just wondering. Is Malaysian set of Xperia m4 Aqua dual support LTE?
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white and red unit only will available around 10th July onwards.. temporary only black unit m4 aqua available.. just now met the distributor, sales quite good.. hmm..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 27 2015, 07:12 PM)
white and red unit only will available around 10th July onwards.. temporary only black unit m4 aqua available.. just now met the distributor, sales quite good.. hmm..
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Reading thru the Internet, not sure why so many people hate MTK6795 CPU lol. It's because of the GPU?
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Reading thru the Internet, not sure why so many people hate MTK6795 CPU lol. It's because of the GPU?
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worry about GPS locking issue, battery life.. other than that, i think mostly are ok d.. perception from public toward mediatek..
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Why worry about c4 gpu? It is using same Mali version as s6 exynos T760mp8 vs c4 mt 6752 T760mp2.. I can share my experience on the device that using mt6752 at half of c4 price, I have no problem with GPS, faster lock, signal, WiFi also OK..FYI I'm xperia l user, so any cheap phone that can give better performance than my xperia l, I'm happy

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Not sure why. Public perception is what made by the Chinese are of poor quality. When I mentioned iPhone and Samsung are also made in China, denial facts start to arise. For me, MTK has been improving to keep up with the technology.
when they mentioned battery life, Sony has expertise that part so we don't have to worry that their battery life is problematic in C4.
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On M4 Aqua, a lot of complaints on various forums that this phone heats up very quickly and saps battery life.
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QUOTE(trent666 @ Jun 28 2015, 05:48 PM)
On M4 Aqua, a lot of complaints on various forums that this phone heats up very quickly and saps battery life.
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if you do hands on the actual device, M4 Aqua in anywhere.. you actually can feel the slightly heat on top camera area.. centre and lower part nothing heat can feel.. i had spent 10 minutes on surfing, youtube, movie on DEMO unit.. i think its ok.. but when we put the SIM into the phone, then im not sure.. because on ytd, i feel my ZL hotter a lot than M4 aqua.. mainly because im open hotspot and use 3G surfing..
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 27 2015, 07:04 PM)
No. It's 3G
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What about the C4 dual? Both sim slots support LTE?
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 28 2015, 02:07 PM)
Not sure why. Public perception is what made by the Chinese are of poor quality. When I mentioned iPhone and Samsung are also made in China, denial facts start to arise. For me, MTK has been improving to keep up with the technology.
when they mentioned battery life, Sony has expertise that part so we don't have to worry that their battery life is problematic in C4.
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One of the reason is MTK slow in release kernel source code, making MTK fail to get proper update compare to Qualcomm
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It seems 615 and 810 phones are plagued with overheating issue, except for the 64bit 410
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 28 2015, 11:00 PM)
no information about it yet. will disclose once it released.
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Ok, do give us an update, bro. Am keeping an eye on this as a spare phone for my iPhone as it uses a nano sim. Thanks!
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http://m.gsmarena.com/sony_considering_man...-news-12833.php

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 27 2015, 07:04 PM)
No. It's 3G
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serious screw sony malaysia ......
all lousy, including their service leh ...
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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Jun 30 2015, 01:46 AM)
what ???
serious screw sony malaysia ......
all lousy, including their service leh ...
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for me, 3G is quite decent. plus LTE coverage need some time in Malaysia.
for the price of RM969, you can get dual SIM 3G and capless waterproof is more than enough.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 30 2015, 08:58 AM)
for me, 3G is quite decent. plus LTE coverage need some time in Malaysia.
for the price of RM969, you can get dual SIM 3G and capless waterproof is more than enough.
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+1 never use lte or enable lte in my phone before. Plus my area no 4g coverage for all carriers.
Btw 3g consume more battery compare to 4g,is it true?
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ Jun 30 2015, 09:58 AM)
+1 never use lte or enable lte in my phone before. Plus my area no 4g coverage for all carriers.
Btw 3g consume more battery compare to 4g,is it true?
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You flipped this statement. No phones can survive LTE's battery hogging style.

IKR, ipoh has nearly no coverage for LTE.

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LTE still lack behind from Malaysia telco in terms of coverage.. 3G most telco had cover 90% area.. i prefer stable 3G connectivity and constant speed at least 2mbps for us..

if use LTE, when travel to other area which dont have LTE, then phone will research the network again and connect to 3G probably.. unless big city like KL been covered majority.. in other city actually not really well cover yet..
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http://www.lowyat.net/2015/06/sony-xperia-...aunch-imminent/

So Sony Malaysia gonna to target dual sim market by this year? Database show E6533 which is dual sim version of Z3+.. if really enter msia market, i will go for it directly..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 30 2015, 05:33 PM)
http://www.lowyat.net/2015/06/sony-xperia-...aunch-imminent/

So Sony Malaysia gonna to target dual sim market by this year? Database show E6533 which is dual sim version of Z3+.. if really enter msia market, i will go for it directly..
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Well, I honestly don't wanna hope for Z3+ because of overheating issues. Customers sure will complain about it.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 30 2015, 05:35 PM)
Well, I honestly don't wanna hope for Z3+ because of overheating issues. Customers sure will complain about it.
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hopefully when launch (if turns this true), Sony ady issue real updates to solve the heating issue.. Maybe reduce the speed of processor or anything.. btw, reading from mobile01.com there are some users said problem reduced from the latest updates.. hopefully future updates or 5.1 may really cure the things..

now people comment on camera close after some times.. maybe sony can control from camera apps.. this have to rectify by themselves i think..

youtube there are some videos review and compare s6 and z3+.. seems both are facing the same problem as well..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 30 2015, 11:02 AM)
LTE still lack behind from Malaysia telco in terms of coverage.. 3G most telco had cover 90% area.. i prefer stable 3G connectivity and constant speed at least 2mbps for us..

if use LTE, when travel to other area which dont have LTE, then phone will research the network again and connect to 3G probably.. unless big city like KL been covered majority.. in other city actually not really well cover yet..
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Actually I get LTE in most major cities I travel to for work, e.g. Kuantan, JB, Ipoh and Penang. Once you get LTE, you start to feel 3G is slooowww... smile.gif

So for me personally, I wouldn't consider a non-LTE phone anymore. Waiting eagerly for the C4 smile.gif

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QUOTE(attw @ Jun 30 2015, 09:13 PM)
Actually I get LTE in most major cities I travel to for work, e.g. Kuantan, JB, Ipoh and Penang. Once you get LTE, you start to feel 3G is slooowww... smile.gif

So for me personally, I wouldn't consider a non-LTE phone anymore. Waiting eagerly for the C4 smile.gif
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oo.. maybe im not so updated yet.. hahaha.. but yeah, LTE is current trend for smartphone.. good to have it actually.. i will wait and see the updates about Z3+ news.. saw the article about Z3+ dual is enter SIRIM database.. which mean probably will launch in malaysia in short time.. if this turn real, i will dump m4 aqua and c4 away, direct aim to Z3+ dual..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 30 2015, 09:36 PM)
oo.. maybe im not so updated yet.. hahaha.. but yeah, LTE is current trend for smartphone.. good to have it actually.. i will wait and see the updates about Z3+ news.. saw the article about Z3+ dual is enter SIRIM database.. which mean probably will launch in malaysia in short time.. if this turn real, i will dump m4 aqua and c4 away, direct aim to Z3+ dual..
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price of z3+ = 2x c4 sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ Jul 1 2015, 10:12 AM)
price of z3+ = 2x c4  sweat.gif
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im ok.. ^^ i really want to change phone d.. my gf not allow nia.. always stop me and have to controlled by her.. but she got the reason also la. dont want me simply spend.. haiz.. but i just want to change due to my mum phone is dying.. so i plan to pass my ZL (still stay strong) to her. then i can get the new one..

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 1 2015, 11:28 AM)
im ok.. ^^ i really want to change phone d.. my gf not allow nia.. always stop me and have to controlled by her..
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QUOTE(attw @ Jun 30 2015, 09:13 PM)
Actually I get LTE in most major cities I travel to for work, e.g. Kuantan, JB, Ipoh and Penang. Once you get LTE, you start to feel 3G is slooowww... smile.gif

So for me personally, I wouldn't consider a non-LTE phone anymore. Waiting eagerly for the C4 smile.gif
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i agreed, once used LTE and will not want to look back. The differences are lots
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 1 2015, 11:28 AM)
im ok.. ^^ i really want to change phone d.. my gf not allow nia.. always stop me and have to controlled by her.. but she got the reason also la. dont want me simply spend.. haiz.. but i just want to change due to my mum phone is dying.. so i plan to pass my ZL (still stay strong) to her. then i can get the new one..
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ur gf use wat? ipong ?
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ Jul 1 2015, 11:38 AM)
ur gf use wat? ipong ?
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IMHO, LTE is nice to have~ but not neccessary~ smile.gif

Anyway, any idea when C4 will be available in Sony Store ?
Would like to hand on before buying~
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I went to Sony Sunway Pyramid today. Was told by the sales assistant that C4 is already available but no demo model yet so he gave me a.. I dunno what should it be called lol.. It's like a demo model that cannot turn on with specs on the screen. So i just try and hold it for awhile. It's bigger than my current mi3 but lighter. And the plastic casing was kinda turn off. I tried M4 instead. Felt good in my hand but i noticed a slight lag while opening the camera app and close it back as well as when pressing the multi task button.

I already have a deal with a z3 compact seller in LYN but if the deal is off I'll go back and play around with C4 again before decide which phone to buy.
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QUOTE(neo0915 @ Jul 1 2015, 06:54 PM)
IMHO, LTE is nice to have~ but not neccessary~ smile.gif

Anyway, any idea when C4 will be available in Sony Store ?
Would like to hand on before buying~
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They say is July 3. No idea.
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QUOTE(sickx @ Jul 1 2015, 07:05 PM)
I went to Sony Sunway Pyramid today. Was told by the sales assistant that C4 is already available but no demo model yet so he gave me a.. I dunno what should it be called lol.. It's like a demo model that cannot turn on with specs on the screen. So i just try and hold it for awhile. It's bigger than my current mi3 but lighter. And the plastic casing was kinda turn off. I tried M4 instead. Felt good in my hand but i noticed a slight lag while opening the camera app and close it back as well as when pressing the multi task button.

I already have a deal with a z3 compact seller in LYN but if the deal is off I'll go back and play around with C4 again before decide which phone to buy.
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Do update us after u have ur hands on session~
Im having the same thought as u to play around with C4 1st before decide which phone to buy~ smile.gif

QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jul 1 2015, 08:01 PM)
They say is July 3. No idea.
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m4 aqua hands on feel good.. only let down is internal storage.. i checked, around 2.6gb left.. but after uninstall some bloatware and disable unnecessary apps, the storage might able to get 3gb..

i will check for C4 as well.. not sure C4 support for MHL or not.. while M4 surely no support MHL ady..

directd do start selling Xperia C4 for rm1179.. so RRP in sony might be 1299..

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QUOTE(sickx @ Jul 1 2015, 07:05 PM)
I went to Sony Sunway Pyramid today. Was told by the sales assistant that C4 is already available but no demo model yet so he gave me a.. I dunno what should it be called lol.. It's like a demo model that cannot turn on with specs on the screen. So i just try and hold it for awhile. It's bigger than my current mi3 but lighter. And the plastic casing was kinda turn off. I tried M4 instead. Felt good in my hand but i noticed a slight lag while opening the camera app and close it back as well as when pressing the multi task button.

I already have a deal with a z3 compact seller in LYN but if the deal is off I'll go back and play around with C4 again before decide which phone to buy.
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Sony the curve already have C4 demo set for play play
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Xperia C4 lovers, good news.
in case if you guys are wondering the LTE networking of this model, please worry less because it's dual SIM LTE. biggrin.gif

I dialed *#*#7378423#*#* and I saw LTE bands present.
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http://www.lelong.com.my/sony-xperia-m4-aq...7-01-Sale-I.htm

directd selling white, red M4 aqua as well.. Answer from the Q&A there.. No option to choose, but can state in note.. Or whatsapp them to confirm..

while in sony online store, C4 all colours are open for sales now.. https://store.sony.com.my/productlisting.aspx?catid=228

pending for M4 aqua red and white for sony store and online store

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 3 2015, 10:36 PM)
http://www.lelong.com.my/sony-xperia-m4-aq...7-01-Sale-I.htm

directd selling white, red M4 aqua as well.. Answer from the Q&A there.. No option to choose, but can state in note.. Or whatsapp them to confirm..

while in sony online store, C4 all colours are open for sales now.. https://store.sony.com.my/productlisting.aspx?catid=228

pending for M4 aqua red and white for sony store and online store
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we already have white. biggrin.gif
Coral still pending.
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Does the Xperia C4/C4 Dual support USB OTG?

Seriously considering this as a spare dual sim phone, only thing holding me back is USB OTG support and 2600 mAh battery (3000 mAh battery would be close to perfect).
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QUOTE(Sigint @ Jul 3 2015, 11:33 PM)
Does the Xperia C4/C4 Dual support USB OTG?

Seriously considering this as a spare dual sim phone, only thing holding me back is USB OTG support and 2600 mAh battery (3000 mAh battery would be close to perfect).
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it supports OTG.
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Xperia C4 lovers, good news.
in case if you guys are wondering the LTE networking of this model, please worry less because it's dual SIM LTE. biggrin.gif

I dialed *#*#7378423#*#* and I saw LTE bands present.
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So bro, to confirm, it's dual nano sim LTE standby?
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So bro, to confirm, it's dual nano sim LTE standby?
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 30 2015, 08:58 AM)
for me, 3G is quite decent. plus LTE coverage need some time in Malaysia.
for the price of RM969, you can get dual SIM 3G and capless waterproof is more than enough.
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waterproof and need thousand argument + legal letter to get the phone fix when water leaking it, i kind of hate Sony CS manager now ....
lte Vs 3g ? no fight bro, i use my z2 for thethring to my device ...... no way i can go back to 3g tongue.gif
plan to buy this because of the prices and dual sim (i travel 2 country now, sad but no choice)

n mi4i is just 700++ with lte and simlar spec ..... at first don't mind paying 200 ++ for it, now seem like doesn't worth it

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waterproof and need thousand argument + legal letter to get the phone fix when water leaking it, i kind of hate Sony CS manager now ....
lte Vs 3g ? no fight bro, i use my z2 for thethring to my device ...... no way i can go back to 3g tongue.gif
plan to buy this because of the prices and dual sim (i travel 2 country now, sad but no choice)

n mi4i is just 700++ with lte and simlar spec ..... at first don't mind paying 200 ++ for it, now seem like doesn't worth it
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Unfortunately mi4i battery life isn't durable as M4 aqua. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jul 4 2015, 06:48 PM)
Unfortunately mi4i battery life isn't durable as M4 aqua. tongue.gif
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but without lte ...... when work in HK n Sg, 3g is seriously snail
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I bought m4 aqua white in the end
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I bought m4 aqua white in the end
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ Jul 5 2015, 12:31 PM)
What happen to the z3+ ? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 5 2015, 03:05 PM)
need phone urgently. and tempting to get it after hands on the unit.. LOL.. C4 also available in sony store ady.. I get white M4, free 16gb class 10 sony microSD. mum phone dying.. so get it today..
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Mum take the m4, u buy Z3+. Zl keep as spare. win2 situation biggrin.gif
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Why would people still wish to buy z3+ in view of so many proven reports of serious overheating?? One can easily google this problem on the z3+.

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Why would people still wish to buy z3+ in view of so many proven reports of serious overheating?? One can easily google this problem on the z3+.
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Desperate for new phone, or some just doesn't care.
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M4 no really overheat as people said.. only can feel the warm on top, camera that area when im updating and download the apps..

after installed my apps, camera apps, update all, left around 1gb internal storage for m4.. Later when im free i will upload some pictures and review about it..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 5 2015, 05:13 PM)
M4 no really overheat as people said.. only can feel the warm on top, camera that area when im updating and download the apps..

after installed my apps, camera apps, update all, left around 1gb internal storage for m4.. Later when im free i will upload some pictures and review about it..
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jul 5 2015, 06:05 PM)
Gratz on your new phone BTW.
this phone is satisfying.
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thanks.. battery life was great.. 3 hours screen on time already.. From yesterday nearly 6pm until now.. 3 hours screen on time, where battery left 40% somemore.. Wow.. dual sim in phone.. doesnt estimate so good.. really promising 2 days battery life for those less usage.. for heavy usage, i think 1 whole day from early morning till sleeping time sure no problem..

will write a full review or hands on about m4 aqua in coming..
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Raymond when will the C4 be available for sale locally n indicative price range??

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Xperia M4 AQUA Hands On and short review:

Design - Likely same with Z3. all button located on right panel, Power, Volume rocker, and camera button.. All buttons are good to press.. Dual Sim tray on right, microSD port on the left and charging microUSB port on the left. Main focus for M4 Aqua are capless microUSB port, but still waterproof.. The back plastic not so neat, no round edge so make we hold it feel not so comfort. Dont have the hole for accessories hanger.

Screen - 720p IPS screen, colour contrast is good, viewing angle good, no wash out.. Full brightness will got little light leaking at some angle. Normally wont use full brightness due to over bright for our eyes. I will use smart adaptive backlight.. Outdoor visibility is good, wont feel dark.. Do have glove mode in this phone, but dont have BRAVIA engine or VIVID mode..

Performance - No lag in my daily usage, so far so good. Internal storage do have 8gb only. Out of the box only available 2.66gb. I uninstalled all bloatware like Akazoo, AVG and others. around 2.9gb available.. I disabled few apps that i wont use it e.g. google+, drive, google play games, magazine... after update all the apps and install my personal apps and login all apps available, internal storage left around 0.97gb.. I decided to transfer apps to sdcard, so now still left 1.51gb free space..

**Apps I installed: Facebook, Messenger, LINE, Whatsapp, Waze, Speedtest, Cerberus, MX Player, Uber Partner, Maybank2u, Motionshot, Comic, Funky disco, horror, smiley, timeshift burst, Currency converter small apps, Translator small apps. (The rest was default apps with latest updates installed)

Battery life - Yesterday full charged 100% around 6pm (after install and update apps before full charged), normal usage like whatsapp, LINE, facebook, messenger, youtube. Sleep time dropped 2% battery life. Morning 7am 60% with 2h 21m. Up to current writing time, 5.30pm, battery life left 30%, 3h 45m SOT.

*Above usage based on Wifi & 3G all the time. Wifi in home and office whenever available. Dual sim in phone (Celcom+Maxis)

**Latest update - Attached Image Attached Image


Camera - Front super wide angle, details not that sharp, but overall output is good in term of brightness, white balance, contrast are natural.. Back camera will got some blur in 3 out of 10 photos. can be improve more. I didnt test much on camera yet except front camera. Front output really good.. Will further testing on both camera in future. Portrait retouch can use double tap on back to capture photo.

Speaker - Loudness was great.. After submerge into water, need some time to recover back to normal.. normal 40% loudness is enough.. in noisy environment, 100% volume wont let user miss the notification or calls.

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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 6 2015, 05:29 PM)
Raymond when will the C4 be available for sale locally n indicative price range??
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It's already for sale, priced at RM1299.
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It's already for sale, priced at RM1299.
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 6 2015, 05:55 PM)
Ok - thanks. Will look this up at local Sony stores
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I'm not sure if JB has it yet.
the stuffs just arrived on last Friday.
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latest update in previous Xperia M4 Aqua short review post.. Battery life screenshot added..

around 5h SOT from yesterday 6pm - now 9.43pm..
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Battery life seem good, not sure c4 will hv such battery performance? Any1 hv use c4?
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Is the coral m4 available?
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QUOTE(colt45 @ Jul 7 2015, 06:07 AM)
Is the coral m4 available?
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directd seems got it already. the others shop will available from this week.
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 6 2015, 05:32 PM)
Xperia M4 AQUA Hands On and short review:

Design - Likely same with Z3. all button located on right panel, Power, Volume rocker, and camera button.. All buttons are good to press.. Dual Sim tray on right, microSD port on the left and charging microUSB port on the left. Main focus for M4 Aqua are capless microUSB port, but still waterproof.. The back plastic not so neat, no round edge so make we hold it feel not so comfort. Dont have the hole for accessories hanger.

Screen - 720p IPS screen, colour contrast is good, viewing angle good, no wash out.. Full brightness will got little light leaking at some angle. Normally wont use full brightness due to over bright for our eyes. I will use smart adaptive backlight.. Outdoor visibility is good, wont feel dark.. Do have glove mode in this phone, but dont have BRAVIA engine or VIVID mode..

Performance - No lag in my daily usage, so far so good. Internal storage do have 8gb only. Out of the box only available 2.66gb. I uninstalled all bloatware like Akazoo, AVG and others. around 2.9gb available.. I disabled few apps that i wont use it e.g. google+, drive, google play games, magazine... after update all the apps and install my personal apps and login all apps available, internal storage left around 0.97gb.. I decided to transfer apps to sdcard, so now still left 1.51gb free space..

**Apps I installed: Facebook, Messenger, LINE, Whatsapp, Waze, Speedtest, Cerberus, MX Player, Uber Partner, Maybank2u, Motionshot, Comic, Funky disco, horror, smiley, timeshift burst, Currency converter small apps, Translator small apps. (The rest was default apps with latest updates installed)

Battery life - Yesterday full charged 100% around 6pm (after install and update apps before full charged), normal usage like whatsapp, LINE, facebook, messenger, youtube. Sleep time dropped 2% battery life. Morning 7am 60% with 2h 21m. Up to current writing time, 5.30pm, battery life left 30%, 3h 45m SOT.

*Above usage based on Wifi & 3G all the time. Wifi in home and office whenever available. Dual sim in phone (Celcom+Maxis)

**Latest update - Attached Image Attached Image
Camera - Front super wide angle, details not that sharp, but overall output is good in term of brightness, white balance, contrast are natural.. Back camera will got some blur in 3 out of 10 photos. can be improve more. I didnt test much on camera yet except front camera. Front output really good.. Will further testing on both camera in future. Portrait retouch can use double tap on back to capture photo.

Speaker - Loudness was great.. After submerge into water, need some time to recover back to normal.. normal 40% loudness is enough.. in noisy environment, 100% volume wont let user miss the notification or calls.
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Wow....very details review on M4 Aqua
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QUOTE(silentsunami @ Jul 7 2015, 10:40 AM)
Wow....very details review on M4 Aqua
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for those want gaming, i think not suitable to get it. especially those good graphics game like asphalt 8, MC5, NBA2k15, GTA SA.. the reason why i said so, not because of the performance.. but is about the internal storage not allow user to install i think..


haha.. so think carefully for those want get M4 aqua.. if just want play some light game like dead trigger, COC, candy crush no problem.. I played dead trigger for 10 minutes, the phone camera area is warm but not heat up until not comfort to hold.. i would conclude the temperature arise almost same as my previous ZL only..
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QUOTE(colt45 @ Jul 7 2015, 06:07 AM)
Is the coral m4 available?
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https://store.sony.com.my/productlisting.aspx?catid=228

Xperia M4 Coral colour available in sony store online..
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yeay..can get it for wifey..
any root available for m4
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yeay..can get it for wifey..
any root available for m4
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at this moment i think dont have root yet.. need wait some time.. whenever got root, i will root it and download apps and transfer to real external SD card..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 7 2015, 04:32 PM)
at this moment i think dont have root yet.. need wait some time.. whenever got root, i will root it and download apps and transfer to real external SD card..
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New xperia phones hard to root and need to unlock boot. And you will lose some functions if im not mistaken
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ Jul 7 2015, 05:00 PM)
New xperia phones hard to root and need to unlock boot. And you will lose some functions if im not mistaken
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Probably. New Xperia for bootloader protection. MXTP I think. For me didn't play game one ok. For those want play game one have to root to get more storage.

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Second day Xperia M4 aqua battery life. Battery life definitely enough for us to use from morning till night. I'm just try to stretch it out based on my usage. Normally Facebook, messenger, line and whatsapp.

Surely can get more than 4hours sot


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http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/07/08/enabl...loader-devices/


for the person who bought newer xperia phone, please take note on this..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 9 2015, 09:32 AM)
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/07/08/enabl...loader-devices/
for the person who bought newer xperia phone, please take note on this..
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ROM players will find this bothering.
however, i'm partly a ROM player. whistling.gif
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Jz did some hands on on C4 & M4 yesterday~

Both smooth & fluent as expected~
Camera wise both can perform very well, maybe due to the light condition inside Sony Center (it's so bright) ~

But, C4 is too big to operate with 1 hand~ sweat.gif

Personally, i like the M4 design, very comfort holding with 1 hand~
The main drawback of M4 is the 8GB internal storage~
I play a lot of high end graphic games, so i think 8gb is not enuf~

I think will go for C4 then~ blush.gif
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QUOTE(neo0915 @ Jul 9 2015, 09:55 AM)
Jz did some hands on on C4 & M4 yesterday~

Both smooth & fluent as expected~
Camera wise both can perform very well, maybe due to the light condition inside Sony Center (it's so bright) ~

But, C4 is too big to operate with 1 hand~  sweat.gif

Personally, i like the M4 design, very comfort holding with 1 hand~
The main drawback of M4 is the 8GB internal storage~
I play a lot of high end graphic games, so i think 8gb is not enuf~

I think will go for C4 then~  blush.gif
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M4 really not good for high end games.. sinces after my M4 installed all the apps i need and left 1gb.. unable to install high end games for sure..

actually i hands on C4 i feel not much bigger than M4.. M4 quite long.. C4 is wider a bit.. i believe performance part, C4 better.. I bought M4 just feel want to have a waterproof phone only.. saja to show off.. hahaha.. and M4 720p screen.. sure better for battery life..
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jul 9 2015, 09:38 AM)
ROM players will find this bothering.
however, i'm partly a ROM player. whistling.gif
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there are some reports about MTXP soft brick the phone after restarts the phone, even input the correct info also cannot enabling to boot up the phone.. they suspects the updated google play services.. waiting the fix from Sony..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 9 2015, 09:58 AM)
M4 really not good for high end games.. sinces after my M4 installed all the apps i need and left 1gb.. unable to install high end games for sure..

actually i hands on C4 i feel not much bigger than M4.. M4 quite long.. C4 is wider a bit.. i believe performance part, C4 better.. I bought M4 just feel want to have a waterproof phone only.. saja to show off.. hahaha.. and M4 720p screen.. sure better for battery life..
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Totally agree with u~ saja nak show off waterproof~ tongue.gif

I like the waterproof, 720p, better battery life as well~
Wondering y M4 didnt come with 16GB storage~
Im sure a lot of ppl eyeing M4 if it comes with 16GB~ smile.gif
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QUOTE(neo0915 @ Jul 9 2015, 10:29 AM)
Totally agree with u~ saja nak show off waterproof~  tongue.gif

I like the waterproof, 720p, better battery life as well~
Wondering y M4 didnt come with 16GB storage~
Im sure a lot of ppl eyeing M4 if it comes with 16GB~  smile.gif
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QUOTE(neo0915 @ Jul 9 2015, 10:29 AM)
Totally agree with u~ saja nak show off waterproof~  tongue.gif

I like the waterproof, 720p, better battery life as well~
Wondering y M4 didnt come with 16GB storage~
Im sure a lot of ppl eyeing M4 if it comes with 16GB~  smile.gif
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dont know.. i guess feedback from seller want make this upgrade from M2 aqua with pricing less than 1k.. So 8gb model only fulfill the needs..

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Just bought this phone and using it for nearly 2 weeks now

Very² satisfied with it but yeah the drawback was the tiny internal storage..but other than that, all good especially the battery life part

as for the show-off part, quite right lol. At a glance ppl would think u are
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QUOTE(noir7559 @ Jul 9 2015, 04:22 PM)
Just bought this phone and using it for nearly 2 weeks now

Very² satisfied with it but yeah the drawback was the tiny internal storage..but other than that, all good especially the battery life part

as for the show-off part, quite right lol. At a glance ppl would think u are
using Z3 until they took a closer look laugh.gif
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haha then yours are black unit lo.. mine is white unit.. battery life really good.. 4hours screen on time sure no problem..
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Camera performance? output? speed?
Owners share some pics here~
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I would say the battery in Xperia m4 aqua very hard to drop. Ok morning charge in office at around near to 11am full charged. Until now I still got 57% as screenshot shown. Screen on time almost 2 hours. Normally wifi and data most of time. I would say battery life real good.


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QUOTE(imjustakit @ Jul 9 2015, 10:03 PM)
Camera performance? output? speed?
Owners share some pics here~
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File size too big. Can't upload. Let me try to capture smaller resolution picture and reply you back again.
13mp around 4-6mb.

Ok overall camera review, shutter is slow after capture the photo. Burst mode in superior auto also normal speed option. My previous zl can perform high speed burst mode. But we may use timeshift burst.

Quality I would say normal normal. Details a bit over processed. Not sharp on round area except the focus point. But overall white balance, colour output are good.

Front camera is very wide angle. Which can easily fit 6 people with our arm length. Same quality as rear. Do soft skin processing looks like.. Not sharp, but seriously for upload Facebook, instagram. I think won't lose to most handphone. Output looks good unless you like to zoom in and see details. Overall looks good but not sharp enough in details.

Photo samples try to upload back again.

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No camera result here? Post some pics please tongue.gif
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C4 an m4 got led notification?
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No camera result here? Post some pics please tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Elvin7 @ Jul 10 2015, 10:31 PM)
C4 an m4 got led notification?
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got. C4 im not so sure, but M4 notification light on top left..
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C4 an m4 got led notification?
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got. C4 im not so sure, but M4 notification light on top left..
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No camera result here? Post some pics please tongue.gif
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here are few photo samples of rear camera.. M4 aqua dual..

user posted imageDSC_0001[1] by Chuan Hong Cheong, on Flickr

user posted imageDSC_0007[1] by Chuan Hong Cheong, on Flickr

user posted imageDSC_0008[1] by Chuan Hong Cheong, on Flickr

user posted imageDSC_0013[1] by Chuan Hong Cheong, on Flickr

user posted imageDSC_0030[1] by Chuan Hong Cheong, on Flickr

user posted imageDSC_0032[1] by Chuan Hong Cheong, on Flickr

Or else if you want check full resolution may go to my m4 aqua dual album.. i will upload more photos in coming..
https://www.flickr.com/photos/97542405@N05/...157655289754970
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rclxms.gif rclxms.gif not sure can change color for different notifications like what apps, we chat, line, sums n miss all?
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QUOTE(Elvin7 @ Jul 11 2015, 12:02 AM)
rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  not sure can change color for different notifications like what apps, we chat, line, sums n miss all?
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Finally saw n felt the C4 at local Sony center. Went away unimpressed. Firstly the icons are way too big for its display ( even if it is a 6 incher). Why Sony make such a big change this time. The back is so cheap looking n plasticky! Selling for rm1299 w free case n SP. Didn't bother to ask n see those free stuffs
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 11 2015, 07:11 AM)
Finally saw n felt the C4 at local Sony center. Went away unimpressed. Firstly the icons are way too big for its display ( even if it is a 6 incher). Why Sony make such a big change this time. The back is so cheap looking n plasticky! Selling for rm1299 w free case n SP. Didn't bother to ask n see those free stuffs
Anybody knows what is display size of coming Z5 ultra
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up till now, are rumours only.
so far no leaks about Z5 Ultra.

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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 11 2015, 07:11 AM)
Finally saw n felt the C4 at local Sony center. Went away unimpressed. Firstly the icons are way too big for its display ( even if it is a 6 incher). Why Sony make such a big change this time. The back is so cheap looking n plasticky! Selling for rm1299 w free case n SP. Didn't bother to ask n see those free stuffs
Anybody knows what is display size of coming Z5 ultra
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yes c4 felt too plastics.., screen ratio is good but up and bottom feel unequal, dont have the Omnibalance feel like z3 or m4.. C4 just 5.5 inch..
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M4 only 3G right?
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http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_m4_aqu...iew-1249p10.php
review by GSM
Seems like the camera is disaapointing as expected from Sony.v
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QUOTE(Elvin7 @ Jul 11 2015, 11:37 AM)
M4 only 3G right?
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 10 2015, 11:00 PM)
here are few photo samples of rear camera.. M4 aqua dual..

Or else if you want check full resolution may go to my m4 aqua dual album.. i will upload more photos in coming..
https://www.flickr.com/photos/97542405@N05/...157655289754970
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thanks. nice pics but somehow i feel like the colors are a bit.. dull? I dunno. probably the objects aren't colorful enough.

QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 11 2015, 07:11 AM)
Finally saw n felt the C4 at local Sony center. Went away unimpressed. Firstly the icons are way too big for its display ( even if it is a 6 incher). Why Sony make such a big change this time. The back is so cheap looking n plasticky! Selling for rm1299 w free case n SP. Didn't bother to ask n see those free stuffs
Anybody knows what is display size of coming Z5 ultra
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yes. such a turn off with the body. but the weight and the size are nice enough to hold in my hands.


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Hi all, just bought myself a m4

The problem is, waze cant display The map properly. Is this common problem to m4 or is it me alone?

I have been doing the hard reset on my phone once and refresh the map, doesnt seem to solve the problem cry.gif
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QUOTE(sickx @ Jul 11 2015, 11:55 PM)
thanks. nice pics but somehow i feel like the colors are a bit.. dull? I dunno. probably the objects aren't colorful enough.
yes. such a turn off with the body. but the weight and the size are nice enough to hold in my hands.
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didnt go anywhere, cant find any good objects and take photo let you see.. colour i would say natural as actual looks except the food and intel objects which under indoor.. All are using superior auto.. the white balance for both not same as actual environment..

QUOTE(zuhairabakar @ Jul 12 2015, 08:09 AM)
Hi all, just bought myself a m4

The problem is, waze cant display The map properly. Is this common problem to m4 or is it me alone?

I have been doing the hard reset on my phone once and refresh the map, doesnt seem to solve the problem  cry.gif
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me too.. i go google play store complaints ady and there are some people from different device also complaint same issue too.. i think waze didnt intergrate well to certain devices.. wait for future update and see.. im using google map and papago there is no problem.. even in waze, gps locate is correct i think, i can see the reports nearby, i can search location, and can see the purple routes, but no map only..
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QUOTE(zuhairabakar @ Jul 12 2015, 08:09 AM)
Hi all, just bought myself a m4

The problem is, waze cant display The map properly. Is this common problem to m4 or is it me alone?

I have been doing the hard reset on my phone once and refresh the map, doesnt seem to solve the problem  cry.gif
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 12 2015, 09:27 AM)
me too.. i go google play store complaints ady and there are some people from different device also complaint same issue too.. i think waze didnt intergrate well to certain devices.. wait for future update and see.. im using google map and papago there is no problem.. even in waze, gps locate is correct i think, i can see the reports nearby, i can search location, and can see the purple routes, but no map only..
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for your info guys, Waze has some issues with lollipop firmware. guess you guys need to wait for an official update from waze.
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for your info guys, Waze has some issues with lollipop firmware. guess you guys need to wait for an official update from waze.
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for your info guys, Waze has some issues with lollipop firmware. guess you guys need to wait for an official update from waze.
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Oic. Hopefully it wouldnt take too long. But im still thinking how should i survive The traffic on this raya sweat.gif
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Oic. Hopefully it wouldnt take too long. But im still thinking how should i survive The traffic on this raya sweat.gif
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hopefully waze faster resolve the issue.. it's not only happen in our m4 aqua, other devices as well in playstore reviews.. some ady resolved with latest update but some not..
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Oic. Hopefully it wouldnt take too long. But im still thinking how should i survive The traffic on this raya sweat.gif
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QUOTE(zuhairabakar @ Jul 12 2015, 08:09 AM)
Hi all, just bought myself a m4

The problem is, waze cant display The map properly. Is this common problem to m4 or is it me alone?

I have been doing the hard reset on my phone once and refresh the map, doesnt seem to solve the problem  cry.gif
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for your info guys, Waze has some issues with lollipop firmware. guess you guys need to wait for an official update from waze.
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r u sure? waze lolipop problem on my mtk6752 lolipop device solved on latest version 3.9.5, date 7 july update..no more graphic bug rclxm9.gif ,try manually update at playstore, but if still persist hmm.gif , try using ur phone horizontally while using waze rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(newmaster @ Jul 12 2015, 12:09 PM)
r u sure? waze lolipop problem on my mtk6752 lolipop device solved on latest version 3.9.5, date 7 july update..no more graphic bug  rclxm9.gif ,try manually update at playstore, but if still persist hmm.gif , try using ur phone horizontally while using waze  rolleyes.gif
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Same.version. But issue not solve in my case.
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May I know if C4 support 4g for both sim? Or sim 1 4G while sim 2 3G.
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May I know if C4 support 4g for both sim? Or sim 1 4G while sim 2 3G.
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May I know if C4 support 4g for both sim? Or sim 1 4G while sim 2 3G.
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Dual 4g But when one in 4g, another will be auto 2g This is what I know. Dual 4g mean both slot support 4g, u can choose any slot to use data
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Jz tried the C4 demo set. Size jz nice to hold 1 hand. Only a little bit longer n wider thn Z2. But the camera quality seem not perfect. Shooting speed a little bit slow. Not sure any notice that?
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QUOTE(Elvin7 @ Jul 12 2015, 08:37 PM)
Jz tried the C4 demo set. Size jz nice to hold 1 hand. Only a little bit longer n wider thn Z2. But the camera quality seem not perfect. Shooting speed a little bit slow. Not sure any notice that?
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camera shooting got delay and need refocus everytime just like usual sony phone.. after press button, seem like phone need 1 second+ to save the picture.. front camera wide angle but not that wide than M4 Aqua.. but it got soft flash for low light situation.. just slightly bigger than m4 aqua a bit.. design for front top bigger and bottom small space only..
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camera shooting got delay and need refocus everytime just like usual sony phone.. after press button, seem like phone need 1 second+ to save the picture.. front camera wide angle but not that wide than M4 Aqua.. but it got soft flash for low light situation.. just slightly bigger than m4 aqua a bit.. design for front top bigger and bottom small space only..
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Your M4 camera also facing shooting delay?
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I heard honor 6+ also having camera shooting delay. Many users complain that.
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Your M4 camera also facing shooting delay?
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Even my z3 got shooting delay. Lol
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ Jul 13 2015, 12:41 AM)
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Will need a very steady hand when taking photos then, else all become blur... too bad
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Will need a very steady hand when taking photos then, else all become blur... too bad
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If your hands not steady,dont use the camera dedicated button,surre become blur. Better use on screen button. For me,the pic tend to get blur when im using the button. biggrin.gif
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Is this normal for Sony phone? I thought camera quality is sony phone trademark? I am looking for dual sim 4g phone. C4 almost meet my requirement but the photos quality seem not so good, shooting delay some more. sad.gif not sure if all high megapixel phone will facing the same issue?
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QUOTE(Elvin7 @ Jul 12 2015, 10:41 PM)
Your M4 camera also facing shooting delay?
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compare with my ZL, i would say M4 do have delay as well.. ZL will perform better than my M4 in overall performance.. daily usage not much different..
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do M4 aqua users here noticed that our battery percentage a bit unusual sometimes.. i would say battery life is great.. just curious sometimes i observed battery from 90% drop to 88%.. straight drop 2% sometimes... but it like take more than 10minutes screen on time to drop that 2%.. just wonder why..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 13 2015, 02:46 PM)
do M4 aqua users here noticed that our battery percentage a bit unusual sometimes.. i would say battery life is great.. just curious sometimes i observed battery from 90% drop to 88%.. straight drop 2% sometimes... but it like take more than 10minutes screen on time to drop that 2%.. just wonder why..
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Try recalibrate battery by draining the battery and charge again?

By the way, I will taking few days off from work after the chaos in lowyat. flex.gif
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jul 13 2015, 03:13 PM)
Try recalibrate battery by draining the battery and charge again?

By the way, I will taking few days off from work after the chaos in lowyat. flex.gif
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didnt try it.. but just mostly saw this unusual percentage drop.. sometimes it will drop 1% too.. nvm.. as long as battery life. i will try to make it fully drain and recharge again and observe again..
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Hi geng
Already bought xperia c4 , it good price rm1260 for xperia c4 ?

So far my review about c4 is good , but yeay camera quality little bit disspointed
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Congrats bro. Can share your photos taken by c4?
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Hi geng
Already bought xperia c4 , it good price rm1260 for xperia c4 ?

So far my review about c4 is good , but yeay camera quality little bit disspointed
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c4 released liao ? why no news one??
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QUOTE(Elvin7 @ Jul 13 2015, 11:00 PM)
Congrats bro. Can share your photos taken by c4?
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if i get a free time , i will try capture and upload on here , so far got little blur if not stable capture and the picture not too sharp .


QUOTE(delsoo @ Jul 13 2015, 11:53 PM)
c4 released liao  ? why no news one??
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already reles on sony centre on 3/7 if not my mistake ,
now i already brought it .. sony price 1299 .. but i got rm1260 lol
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jul 13 2015, 11:53 PM)
c4 released liao  ? why no news one??
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I have announced it at few pages back. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(hapiz47z @ Jul 14 2015, 12:34 AM)
if i get a free time , i will try capture and upload on here , so far got little blur if not stable capture and the picture not too sharp .
already reles on sony centre on 3/7 if not my mistake ,
now i already brought it .. sony price 1299 .. but i got rm1260 lol
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the reason why sony phone photo not sharp enough due to sony software tune to increase ISO to capture objects.. tuning more on better brightness to capture the objects and overall not sharp enough.. for daylight is ok cause ISO low due to sufficient light enter to sensor..

while indoor and low light, mostly we can see the object in photo but looks overprocess and blur, not details & sharp.. unless u manual use scene or control the camera setting

1260 price normal lo. i prefer you go sony store buy it and may get free 16gb Sony class 10 microSD card.. or else buy from directd.. rm1179

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jul 14 2015, 12:34 AM)
I have announced it at few pages back. whistling.gif
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I wonder why there's was no official news announcement on newspaper . hmm.gif I was told that C4 will be released in mid of July
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 14 2015, 12:57 AM)
the reason why sony phone photo not sharp enough due to sony software tune to increase ISO to capture objects.. tuning more on better brightness to capture the objects and overall not sharp enough.. for daylight is ok cause ISO low due to sufficient light enter to sensor..

while indoor and low light, mostly we can see the object in photo but looks overprocess and blur, not details & sharp.. unless u manual use scene or control the camera setting

1260 price normal lo. i prefer you go sony store buy it and may get free 16gb Sony class 10 microSD card.. or else buy from directd.. rm1179
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Really wonder why Sony cant make their camera looks good, their RnD sleeping? Should send them to apple and ask apple engineer teach sony engineer how to make full use of their own sony camera sensor
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QUOTE(silentsunami @ Jul 14 2015, 10:51 AM)
Really wonder why Sony cant make their camera looks good, their RnD sleeping? Should send them to apple and ask apple engineer teach sony engineer how to make full use of their own sony camera sensor
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they dont need apple engineer. all they need is send a guy from their imaging department to there and job is done.
apple's camera engineer still cant work on details.
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jul 14 2015, 08:46 AM)
I wonder why there's was no official news announcement on newspaper .  hmm.gif I was told that C4 will be released in mid of July
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Official news in facebook.. and online store and everywhere is selling.. now you go buy it still hurry.. dont worry.. wont run out of the stocks like m4 aqua at initial stage..


QUOTE(silentsunami @ Jul 14 2015, 10:51 AM)
Really wonder why Sony cant make their camera looks good, their RnD sleeping? Should send them to apple and ask apple engineer teach sony engineer how to make full use of their own sony camera sensor
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i guess is their preference to make such photo.. might be mobile camera and real camera development team are different.. so different result from their imaging department and mobile camera.. mostly people use phone camera and capture photo daily and share into social media.. no one really focus on details and go print it out.. so probably they dont care.. as long as output, overall contrast, colour production are good.
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 14 2015, 12:41 PM)
Official news in facebook.. and online store and everywhere is selling.. now you go buy it still hurry.. dont worry.. wont run out of the stocks like m4 aqua at initial stage..
i guess is their preference to make such photo.. might be mobile camera and real camera development team are different.. so different result from their imaging department and mobile camera.. mostly people use phone camera and capture photo daily and share into social media.. no one really focus on details and go print it out.. so probably they dont care.. as long as output, overall contrast, colour production are good.
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wah , m4 aqua so good at this price range ? biggrin.gif shocking.gif
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jul 14 2015, 01:57 PM)
wah , m4 aqua so good at this price range ?  biggrin.gif  shocking.gif
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no good.. xiaomi mi4i rm749 with the nearly same specs.. but stand middle of s615 phone.. A7 rm1599 but with 16gb.. m4 aqua is just people want get a waterproof phone but in budget price.. haha.. me is one of it.. dual sim+waterproof.. rm969.. why not.. although many issue complaints in worldwide.. but dont care.. at least so far im using no special issue except waze shown no map.. but that is apps problem.. can solved in future.. heat issue not really applicable to me coz i didnt play games ady.. but why i said m4 aqua is good sales, cause in few outlets of my area is run out stock very fast.. the store i purchased i saw many m4 aqua sold in their record book..

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 14 2015, 02:29 PM)
no good.. xiaomi mi4i rm749 with the nearly same specs.. but stand middle of s615 phone.. A7 rm1599 but with 16gb.. m4 aqua is just people want get a waterproof phone but in budget price.. haha.. me is one of it.. dual sim+waterproof.. rm969.. why not.. although many issue complaints in worldwide.. but dont care.. at least so far im using no special issue except waze shown no map.. but that is apps problem.. can solved in future.. heat issue not really applicable to me coz i didnt play games ady.. but why i said m4 aqua is good sales, cause in few outlets of my area is run out stock very fast.. the store i purchased i saw many m4 aqua sold in their record book..
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I heard xiaomi phone gt many problem(doesn't last long). But it's worth to get a full hd phone below rm800 .... I support m4 aqua becoz sony make great quality product.....
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Seem like M4 more famous than C4.
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jul 14 2015, 03:20 PM)
I heard xiaomi phone gt many problem(doesn't last long). But it's worth to get a full hd phone below rm800 .... I support m4 aqua becoz sony make great quality product.....
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Don't know that. I just used to Sony UI then just continue it. Battery life great. Today meeting a lot and seldom use my phone. Now still got 75%.. Discharged from yesterday 11pm. Until now sot 33 minutes. For me I feel good.
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Finally my case and screen protector arrived . Previously simply use my old stock screen protector cut and paste only. Finally.

Nillkin white, come with one front screen protector. Another 10 sets of front and back screen protector.


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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 14 2015, 07:03 PM)
Finally my case and screen protector arrived . Previously simply use my old stock screen protector cut and paste only. Finally.

Nillkin white, come with one front screen protector. Another 10 sets of front and back screen protector.
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Dat white frosted case sweat.gif In few days will become yellowish and cath stains easily whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ Jul 14 2015, 07:05 PM)
Dat white frosted case  sweat.gif In few days will become yellowish and cath stains easily  whistling.gif
Bought white once and never buy white again. All my nillkin frosted case are blacks
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 14 2015, 06:59 PM)
Don't know that. I just used to Sony UI then just continue it. Battery life great. Today meeting a lot and seldom use my phone. Now still got 75%.. Discharged from yesterday 11pm. Until now sot 33 minutes. For me I feel good.
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jul 14 2015, 09:58 PM)
Zl broken ady? Why change new phone?
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jul 14 2015, 09:58 PM)
Zl broken ady? Why change new phone?
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ZL still very strong.. haha but its my xperia NEO.. previously used by mymum.. at this moment, internal storage of xperia NEO is totally not enough to survive.. even facebook also cant install.. so i decided to buy a new phone for myself and pass the ZL to mymum.. then that xperia NEO will forever plug onto my home TV as youtube player.. since xperia neo support HDMI with 720p..

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so far my xperia C4 was so good , about storage is also good , when 1st got it , still 11gb left
about battery life , very good for medium usage for me .. but i weird , full charge 100% , and then i use for whatsapp , twitter , wechat in 30 min , drop 1% . it is bug or what ? 3.00 am discharge i can use until 1.00 am .

i think it ok smartphone for me , just use medium only .. about game graphic , was good , bcoz screen fullhd maybe..
when play game , just got little warmer from back , not too much heat , maybe i play game around 15~20 min ..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 14 2015, 10:20 PM)
ZL still very strong.. haha but its my xperia NEO.. previously used by mymum.. at this moment, internal storage of xperia NEO is totally not enough to survive.. even facebook also cant install.. so i decided to buy a new phone for myself and pass the ZL to mymum.. then that xperia NEO will forever plug onto my home TV as youtube player.. since xperia neo support HDMI with 720p..
LOL.. waterproof phone.. can bring into bathroom.  brows.gif  brows.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jul 15 2015, 03:34 PM)
I bathed with my Z Ultra once a week during it's glorious years. brows.gif
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jul 15 2015, 03:34 PM)
I bathed with my Z Ultra once a week during it's glorious years. brows.gif
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now im bring the phone into bathroom almost every 2 days.. just to test.. its good.. no water leak in.

QUOTE(silentsunami @ Jul 15 2015, 03:46 PM)
LOL...bath with Ultra? watching ahem?
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QUOTE(silentsunami @ Jul 15 2015, 03:46 PM)
LOL...bath with Ultra? watching ahem?
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Just put aside and splash water only.
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Not interested with ahem. laugh.gif

Just put aside and splash water only.
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LOL...just splash water only? got put shampoo? tongue.gif
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Did once, then no longer do that. It's not soap proof.
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 15 2015, 05:00 PM)
how about seawater?? even for a while like 10 minutes in seawater and take out and wash with clean water??
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Risky. Apparently, salt can degrade the seals faster.
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By the way, this m4 aqua with light usage can lays for nearly 1.5 days. 2 days battery life need to very light usage.. This is my latest battery life From Monday 11pm discharges until now. Nearly 1.75 days or 44 hours with screen on time 2 hours and 40 minutes. Which I feel this is part of improvement from my ZL. Sony really do great in this part.. Great battery life.


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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 15 2015, 07:21 PM)
By the way, this m4 aqua with light usage can lays for nearly 1.5 days. 2 days battery life need to very light usage.. This is my latest battery life  From Monday 11pm discharges until now. Nearly 1.75 days or 44 hours with screen on time 2 hours and 40 minutes. Which I feel this is part of improvement from my ZL. Sony really do great in this part.. Great battery life.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jul 16 2015, 12:15 PM)
This is mine, with Z2.
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 16 2015, 01:23 PM)
cool.. but need to see more into the graph.. how is the actual awake, wifi, screen on statistics.. but great.. probably me here dual sim idle and 2400mah only.. are you turn on airplane mode during sleep time?
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I turned it on to save battery. I left about 5% during that time.
i have the cell standby, that's the duration recorded that my phone stay charged.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jul 16 2015, 01:46 PM)
I turned it on to save battery. I left about 5% during that time.
i have the cell standby, that's the duration recorded that my phone stay charged.
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Got 3 photos here.. All of these are 5mp front camera..

M4 aqua, Samsung A7, and Xiaomi Redmi Note LTE. please rate which photo is the best to worst..

first photo (with top,bottom edge white colour) - Samsung A7
second photo - Sony M4 aqua
Third - Redmi note

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 17 2015, 10:22 AM)
Got 3 photos here.. All of these are 5mp front camera..

M4 aqua, Samsung A7, and Xiaomi Redmi Note LTE. please rate which photo is the best to worst..
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i would say 1st, and my guess that will be M4 Aqua.
second picture, may be A7.

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jul 17 2015, 10:35 AM)
i would say 1st, and my guess that will be M4 Aqua.
second picture, may be A7.
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sorry you are wrong.. the clearer photo is M4 Aqua.. While samsung A7 is the top one.. White balance yellowish a bit.. while redmi note is the blurr one..

proof can check from first photo.. my white phone is on my bag.. tested fewphotos, result are almost the same..

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 17 2015, 10:56 AM)
sorry you are wrong.. the clearer photo is M4 Aqua.. While samsung A7 is the top one.. White balance yellowish a bit.. while redmi note is the blurr one..

proof can check from first photo.. my white phone is on my bag.. tested fewphotos, result are almost the same..
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that means, A7 is over exposed.
M4 Aqua has a more balanced and natural colour. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jul 17 2015, 11:02 AM)
that means, A7 is over exposed.
M4 Aqua has a more balanced and natural colour. hmm.gif
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we tested and found A7 look clear in camera preview screen but output not that satisfy.. Both of us use auto mode, seems their front camera no stabilisation, need further improve in software.. while sony also using superior auto, looks dull in camera preview, but output seem sony processed it and make it look brighter.. colour i would say Sony much near to natural, but a bit cool colour. A7 a bit warm and yellowish.. Redmi totally not satisfy over there..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 17 2015, 11:06 AM)
we tested and found A7 look clear in camera preview screen but output not that satisfy.. Both of us use auto mode, seems their front camera no stabilisation, need further improve in software.. while sony also using superior auto, looks dull in camera preview, but output seem sony processed it and make it look brighter.. colour i would say Sony much near to natural, but a bit cool colour. A7 a bit warm and yellowish.. Redmi totally not satisfy over there..
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Have you tried snap again with the redmi? Because redmi seems like out of focus.
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yes.. this is the best and we also feel happy with redmi.. first and second were totally blur and out of focus.. this is 3rd one and better one.. the reason why we keep laugh in redmi due to the camera only recognize the owner.. LOL, other than that all faces are blur except the owner.. im not sure his hand shaking or not.. but all phone camera capture by him..
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jul 17 2015, 11:34 AM)
Have you tried snap again with the redmi? Because redmi seems like out of focus.
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I have a redmi too. Front cam is still ok not that bad. But not worst like Mr.chuanhong said.
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ Jul 17 2015, 11:45 AM)
I have a redmi too. Front cam is still ok not that bad. But not worst like Mr.chuanhong said.
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yaya.. this is not the judgement.. just incident.. just in my case on yesterday night.. actually we are laughing during redmi front camera shooting.. just recognize the owner and not blur.. the others all are blur..

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 17 2015, 11:45 AM)
yes.. this is the best and we also feel happy with redmi.. first and second were totally blur and out of focus.. this is 3rd one and better one.. the reason why we keep laugh in redmi due to the camera only recognize the owner.. LOL, other than that all faces are blur except the owner.. im not sure his hand shaking or not.. but all phone camera capture by him..
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This is a software glitch then.
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 17 2015, 10:22 AM)
Got 3 photos here.. All of these are 5mp front camera..

M4 aqua, Samsung A7, and Xiaomi Redmi Note LTE. please rate which photo is the best to worst..

first photo (with top,bottom edge white colour) - Samsung A7
second photo - Sony M4 aqua
Third - Redmi note
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wow, pretty good job from m4 aqua front camera... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

my A5 has d same problem with ur A7 too, look yellowish during nite shoot, but d photo is still okay, need steady hand to capture otherwise ll get blur easily. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Flying knight @ Jul 17 2015, 09:13 PM)
wow, pretty good job from m4 aqua front camera... rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

my A5 has d same problem with ur A7 too, look yellowish during nite shoot, but d photo is still okay, need steady hand to capture otherwise ll get blur easily. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Flying knight @ Jul 17 2015, 09:13 PM)
wow, pretty good job from m4 aqua front camera... rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

my A5 has d same problem with ur A7 too, look yellowish during nite shoot, but d photo is still okay, need steady hand to capture otherwise ll get blur easily. tongue.gif
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26.1.A.2.99 firmware rolling out. Get your phone ready!

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hi,

was planning to buy c4 or m4. i have found a lot of issues from the net, hope users of both handset here can clarify this :-)

1. Battery doesn't last as long for normal usage
2. Heating issues while using camera apps, apparently it's worse on the m4
3. Camera quality is average with slow capture rate (2-3 secs after pressing capture button)

If for recommendations, Samsung A5, Xperia C4 or M4 will you recommend me for my selfie sister? :-)

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QUOTE(shoduken @ Jul 19 2015, 09:08 PM)
hi,

was planning to buy c4 or m4. i have found a lot of issues from the net, hope users of both handset here can clarify this :-)

1. Battery doesn't last as long for normal usage
2. Heating issues while using camera apps, apparently it's worse on the m4
3. Camera quality is average with slow capture rate (2-3 secs after pressing capture button)

If for recommendations, Samsung A5, Xperia C4 or M4 will you recommend me for my selfie sister? :-)

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im M4 aqua user.. i can answer few of your question based on my user experience.

1. Battery normally i can use 1.5 days with 4hours screen on time.. for heavy usage, 5hours+ screen on time from 7am till 12pm.. (not sure where you listen from about the battery doesn't last long)

2. currently im using camera capture and video for few minutes, i dont feel uncomfort heat.. but i feel warm on cameralens area.. But i will more significant warm when i use AR effect apps.. if normal superior auto and manual mode i will feel ok..

3. i do post few samples previously.. u can check the quality.. slow capture, yes..just like normal sony camera lens..

A5, C4, M4 all pricing different.. depend on your budget..
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Added 3 photos from Xperia M4 Aqua for public reference.. To see original or to zoom in see the detail may click the link and check.

All captured under superior auto mode

user posted imageHaving Starbucks... by Chuan Hong Cheong, on Flickr

user posted imageBlack Ball in Sunway Carnival... Nice to eat during hot weather in Malaysia by Chuan Hong Cheong, on Flickr

user posted imageXperia M4 Aqua case by Chuan Hong Cheong, on Flickr

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 20 2015, 06:04 PM)
Added 3 photos from Xperia M4 Aqua for public reference.. To see original or to zoom in see the detail may click the link and check.

All captured under superior auto mode

user posted imageHaving Starbucks... by Chuan Hong Cheong, on Flickr

user posted imageBlack Ball in Sunway Carnival... Nice to eat during hot weather in Malaysia by Chuan Hong Cheong, on Flickr

user posted imageXperia M4 Aqua case by Chuan Hong Cheong, on Flickr
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It looks awesome~ thumbup.gif
Color looks natural~
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QUOTE(neo0915 @ Jul 20 2015, 06:16 PM)
It looks awesome~  thumbup.gif
Color looks natural~
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I'm reading from some review from different source, some comment good but some bad. Especially China Taiwan forum critics until no value. But so far from my unit I feel ok. Yeah color is natural and same as actual environment. Starbucks that photo is night time, lighting condition same as what photo was shown. I would say photo average good. Not that bad.

But overall photo can prove to people. Let people judge.

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Nice photos, C4 using the same lens right?
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QUOTE(Elvin7 @ Jul 20 2015, 09:25 PM)
Nice photos, C4 using the same lens right?
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Rear camera lens are the same.. but C4 and M4 front is different.. C4 using Exmor R 25mm lens which got 80 degree wide of view.. While in M4 front is 22mm which got 88 degree wide angle.. Sony Mobile didnt state M4 use Exmor R.. but in some india mobile review do mentioned M4 use Exmor R lens too.. but not too sure it legit or not..

So basically rear lens are the same.. front should be C4 perform better in lowlight.. additional C4 do have front soft flashlight..

for front camera photo, in lowlight situation i will recommend people use manual mode turn on HDR and set timer 0.5 sec for selfie or wefie.. if hand very shaky then set to 2secs to ready stabiliser our own hand.. HDR can improve the photo lighting

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 20 2015, 11:27 PM)
Rear camera lens are the same.. but C4 and M4 front is different.. C4 using Exmor R 25mm lens which got 80 degree wide of view.. While in M4 front is 22mm which got 88 degree wide angle.. Sony Mobile didnt state M4 use Exmor R.. but in some india mobile review do mentioned M4 use Exmor R lens too.. but not too sure it legit or not..

So basically rear lens are the same.. front should be C4 perform better in lowlight.. additional C4 do have front soft flashlight..

for front camera photo, in lowlight situation i will recommend people use manual mode turn on HDR and set timer 0.5 sec for selfie or wefie.. if hand very shaky then set to 2secs to ready stabiliser our own hand.. HDR can improve the photo lighting
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can you do some front selfie picture?
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can you do some front selfie picture?
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Here are some photo samples for Xperia M4 aqua Front camera. Some are few days/week ago, one is recent.. Check EXIF of photo to see.. should be all in Superior Auto.

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user posted imageFriends gathering at Starbuck.. by Chuan Hong Cheong, on Flickr

user posted imageWork from home, but actually in Aeon Starbucks by Chuan Hong Cheong, on Flickr

user posted imageNew phone, Xperia M4 Aqua.. Test selfie by Chuan Hong Cheong, on Flickr

user posted imageOne year anniversary for my Preve by Chuan Hong Cheong, on Flickr
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 21 2015, 12:32 PM)
Here are some photo samples for Xperia M4 aqua Front camera. Some are few days/week ago, one is recent.. Check EXIF of photo to see.. should be all in Superior Auto.

user posted imageCoffee in Intel cafeteria. Test selfie by Chuan Hong Cheong, on Flickr

user posted imageFriends gathering at Starbuck.. by Chuan Hong Cheong, on Flickr

user posted imageWork from home, but actually in Aeon Starbucks by Chuan Hong Cheong, on Flickr

user posted imageNew phone, Xperia M4 Aqua.. Test selfie by Chuan Hong Cheong, on Flickr

user posted imageOne year anniversary for my Preve by Chuan Hong Cheong, on Flickr
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Nice pic. It is very clear. I wonder if compare to C4 front which one is better since C4 sacrifice waterproof it should have invested into the camera right? And I see some images there is a bit curvy/dent effect. Is this filter settings?
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Here are some photo samples for Xperia M4 aqua Front camera. Some are few days/week ago, one is recent.. Check EXIF of photo to see.. should be all in Superior Auto.

user posted imageCoffee in Intel cafeteria. Test selfie by Chuan Hong Cheong, on Flickr

user posted imageFriends gathering at Starbuck.. by Chuan Hong Cheong, on Flickr

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Better than flagship z3. Sadding
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QUOTE(shoduken @ Jul 21 2015, 06:23 PM)
Nice pic. It is very clear. I wonder if compare to C4 front which one is better since C4 sacrifice waterproof it should have invested into the camera right? And I see some images there is a bit curvy/dent effect. Is this filter settings?
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Sure dont have any filter.. All original. For the work from home and New phone (orange shirt), i think these 2 might be captured under Portrait Retouch.. not so sure.. the rest are in Superior Auto.. If indoor tube light or outdoor backlight, use manual mode with HDR on will get better photo output.. Not so sure about the curvy/dent effect?? which photo?? maybe the camera wide angle.. 88degree, so you feel some curvy/dent effect?!


QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ Jul 21 2015, 06:29 PM)
Better than flagship z3. Sadding
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The image produced by Z3 front camera is better than my ZL.. but lose to M4 i think.. dont sad.. haha.. different year of design and manufacturing.. now its 5mp front camera era.. M4 is focus for daily users, while Z3 offer overall best experience to users.
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Nice selfie n overall photos. I believe your hand very steady...
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QUOTE(Elvin7 @ Jul 21 2015, 08:50 PM)
Nice selfie n overall photos. I believe your hand very steady...
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Thanks.. Haha probably.. Just an overall impression for people about the capability of rear and front camera of Xperia M4.. I believe C4 likely the same.
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U bring back my confident on C4 camera. Will include to my shopping list. Will see what price for mi note launching tmr. Just noticed Meizu mx5 also good.
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QUOTE(Elvin7 @ Jul 21 2015, 10:28 PM)
U bring back my confident on C4 camera. Will include to my shopping list. Will see what price for mi note launching tmr. Just noticed Meizu mx5 also good.
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I cant help much except giving my personal opinion on mydevice.. all device are smart and good enough already.. most importantly, what you prefer.. i need dual sim phone with average performance will do.. now focus on work, no gaming ady, so M4 serve me well ady except the internal storage.. Need dual sim badly if not i will go for high end phone for long term future usage.. Dual sim is easier for me to talk with my gf.. i got 1 postpaid sim is no minimum commitment and call free with my gf.. so i surely want to keep this sim and my primary line is another sim.. previously just use Nokia phone to call free.. but i need smartphone then i can connect bluetooth to talk with my gf.. easier than holding the nokia phone near to my ears for long time.. very pain..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 21 2015, 10:51 PM)
I cant help much except giving my personal opinion on mydevice.. all device are smart and good enough already.. most importantly, what you prefer.. i need dual sim phone with average performance will do.. now focus on work, no gaming ady, so M4 serve me well ady except the internal storage.. Need dual sim badly if not i will go for high end phone for long term future usage.. Dual sim is easier for me to talk with my gf.. i got 1 postpaid sim is no minimum commitment and call free with my gf.. so i surely want to keep this sim and my primary line is another sim.. previously just use Nokia phone to call free.. but i need smartphone then i can connect bluetooth to talk with my gf.. easier than holding the nokia phone near to my ears for long time.. very pain..
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Yup, I prefer dual sim as well. 1 for call 1 for data. U should have maxis corporate postpaid which is pay per use. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Elvin7 @ Jul 21 2015, 11:29 PM)
Yup, I prefer dual sim as well. 1 for call 1 for data. U should have maxis corporate postpaid which is pay per use. tongue.gif
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I received email from Sony that we will get Z3+ dual instead of single SIM.

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jul 22 2015, 12:55 PM)
I received email from Sony that we will get Z3+ dual instead of single SIM.

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LOL.. Shit... Yeah i saw that SIRIM database leak before.. arghhhhhh doh.gif

32gb, 20.7mp, 5mp front.. gold colour aluminium case.. rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

nvm, i focus back in M4 enough le. If i upgrade sure let GF KO me..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 22 2015, 01:23 PM)
LOL.. Shit... Yeah i saw that SIRIM database leak before.. arghhhhhh  doh.gif

32gb, 20.7mp, 5mp front..  gold colour aluminium case..  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif 

nvm, i focus back in M4 enough le. If i upgrade sure let GF KO me..
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jul 22 2015, 03:41 PM)
in before, arguing with women = reading license and software agreement, ignore, then click accept and next. laugh.gif

Prepare for marriage ka? brows.gif
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boys surely will ignore and wait things get emotion down and continue.. but girls will keep whatever things and boom out one day.. very dahsyat.. pls dont.. LOL.. or they will said us keep avoiding the problem.. but the problem is no problem in our mind ma.. Boy maybe like to buy gadget, car, drinks, girls more to clothes, comestic, beauty stuff.. different categories.. but never say to our girl.. surely KO d..

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Z3 alr more thn 2k. This z3+ sure lagi expensive some more heating issues.
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QUOTE(Elvin7 @ Jul 22 2015, 09:31 PM)
Z3 alr more thn 2k. This z3+ sure lagi expensive some more heating issues.
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Should be follow the flagship price. 2599 I guess.
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Went to check out sony m4 aqua dual yesterday. Ended up utterly disappointed since they only sell the 8gb version here. No more 8gb phones for me, unless i can fully utilize the memory card slot for app installation.
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QUOTE(abu.shofwan @ Jul 23 2015, 10:05 AM)
Went to check out sony m4 aqua dual yesterday. Ended up utterly disappointed  since they only sell the 8gb version here. No more 8gb phones for me, unless i can fully utilize the memory card slot for app installation.
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cant fully utilize memory card for app installation.. unless root then can make it.. yeah yeah this 8gb really dissappoint a lot of people..
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had feedback about 16GB variant. no news till now.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jul 23 2015, 11:07 AM)
had feedback about 16GB variant. no news till now.
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i dont think they will launch 16gb m4 in future.. M4 aqua might be the testing unit in malaysia market.. if sales good, then probably they will launch better spec of future mid range phone in malaysia market.. i think most probably they launched this 8gb variants M4 aqua is just want to keep the price at below rm1000.. follow back the M2 aqua trend in previous.. if take in 16gb dual sim with LTE, surely sell exceed rm1000, maybe 1199/1299.. for those not very urgent, maybe can wait for the 2nd half of 2015.. surely most best phone of 2015 will come out..

m4 aqua really aim for normal user which want to handling daily tasks with 2 sim.. gaming person will suggest go for C4..
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jul 22 2015, 12:55 PM)
I received email from Sony that we will get Z3+ dual instead of single SIM.

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as expected.. RM2599.. hmm a bit too fast to buy m4 aqua..

http://www.lowyat.net/2015/07/sony-xperia-...sia-for-rm2599/
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 24 2015, 12:34 PM)
as expected.. RM2599.. hmm a bit too fast to buy m4 aqua..

http://www.lowyat.net/2015/07/sony-xperia-...sia-for-rm2599/
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well, i'm not getting it anyway. my aim is phablet. smile.gif

BTW, review for C4 Dual is out on GSMarena.
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_c4_dual-review-1276.php

i think Sony did quite good for the camera of the C4. the amount of noise, average but the details aren't hurt.

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jul 25 2015, 09:14 AM)
well, i'm not getting it anyway. my aim is phablet. smile.gif

BTW, review for C4 Dual is out on GSMarena.
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_c4_dual-review-1276.php

i think Sony did quite good for the camera of the C4. the amount of noise, average but the details aren't hurt.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jul 25 2015, 09:14 AM)
well, i'm not getting it anyway. my aim is phablet. smile.gif

BTW, review for C4 Dual is out on GSMarena.
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_c4_dual-review-1276.php

i think Sony did quite good for the camera of the C4. the amount of noise, average but the details aren't hurt.
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C4 overall is good performance from the mediatek SOC.. but not battery saving as expected.. Qualcomm lower power horse than mediatek but offer better battery savings.. mediatek have to put more efforts on battery savings instead of keep focusing the performance output.. but mediateks really done good than qualcomm.. hopefully future update may improve the battery life of C4.. C4 really above midrange specs..

RM1299.. Samsung A7 RM1599 with S615 offer better battery life.. but different features enjoy from both.. mediatek SOC definitely much more powerful (can see most review of MTK6752 in gaming)

QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ Jul 25 2015, 10:34 AM)
woah c4 superior auto mode can snap 13mp picx while flagship only limited to 8mp. Kudos Sony  sweat.gif
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M4, ZL, C4 i think all 13mp able to do so in superior auto mode by set the aspect ratio to 4:3.. 4:3 (13mp), 16:9 (8/9mp)..


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The Sony Xperia C4 comes in single and dual SIM flavors. Both the versions offer quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE/HSDPA support. Cat.4 LTE support is also present, though only one of the SIM is graced with it in the C4 Dual model.

Does this mean only 1 sim support 4G?
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QUOTE(Elvin7 @ Jul 25 2015, 02:48 PM)
The Sony Xperia C4 comes in single and dual SIM flavors. Both the versions offer quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE/HSDPA support. Cat.4 LTE support is also present, though only one of the SIM is graced with it in the C4 Dual model.

Does this mean only 1 sim support 4G?
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Dual SIM supports LTE too.
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Xperia Lavender is known as C5 Ultra and it sports bezel free display.

http://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_c5_ultra...-news-13251.php
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jul 27 2015, 01:34 PM)
Xperia Lavender is known as C5 Ultra and it sports bezel free display.

http://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_c5_ultra...-news-13251.php
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Sony very fast now...and the naming confusion continue...haha
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QUOTE(silentsunami @ Jul 27 2015, 04:30 PM)
Sony very fast now...and the naming confusion continue...haha
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Doesn't really care about naming. laugh.gif
most important is it delivers good impression. And imo, bezel free display resorts to fragility of the display. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jul 27 2015, 04:47 PM)
Doesn't really care about naming. laugh.gif
most important is it delivers good impression. And imo, bezel free display resorts to fragility of the display. sweat.gif
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Too fast. C4 jz launch locally now introduce C5?
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QUOTE(Elvin7 @ Jul 27 2015, 09:01 PM)
Too fast. C4 jz launch locally now introduce C5?
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Technology stuffs we are hardly to keep updated. Unless we do have a lot of spare money. If normal working person with 3/4k salary. How to follow the trend. Make sure you need it and get it. Get whatever you really will use it.
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Any C4 users can sharing using experience?
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C5 Ultra prototype leaked.

http://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_c5_ultra...-news-13294.php
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jul 29 2015, 07:29 PM)
Holy shit.. This c5 must be very expensive. Technology difference already. In future mid end become current high end.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jul 29 2015, 07:29 PM)
Looks impressive~ thumbup.gif
Wondering if it will be available by end of this year~ if yes, i think i will wait for it~ tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 29 2015, 11:02 PM)
Holy shit.. This c5 must be very expensive. Technology difference already. In future mid end become current high end.
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well, lets not talk about the price but majority don't appreciate what Sony did. when Sony tried to make something new, they will bash it, just like this bezel-free C5 Ultra.

QUOTE(neo0915 @ Jul 30 2015, 09:42 AM)
Looks impressive~  thumbup.gif
Wondering if it will be available by end of this year~ if yes, i think i will wait for it~  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jul 30 2015, 10:19 AM)
side note to you, it's mid-high end device.
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If the price is not too exp, i dun mind top up few hundred~
I love the "bezel free display" design~ looks awesome~ drool.gif
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Not sure if i'm a bit slow to share it or not~

Focus closely now, a new way to capture split-second photos is coming. 03.08.15 #Xperia drool.gif drool.gif
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QUOTE(neo0915 @ Jul 31 2015, 02:49 PM)
Knew it but considering you are the first one to share.

Just hope it brings better picture quality like Z3+
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jul 31 2015, 03:31 PM)
Knew it but considering you are the first one to share.

Just hope it brings better picture quality like Z3+
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Ahhh. Forget to ask. How's the picture quality between z3 and + version. ? Big diff?
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ Jul 31 2015, 03:48 PM)
Ahhh. Forget to ask. How's the picture quality between z3 and + version. ? Big diff?
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Yes. Noise is still prominent but the details captured are sharp.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jul 31 2015, 03:55 PM)
Yes. Noise is still prominent but the details captured are sharp.
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Waa. What I need is the detailssssss.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jul 31 2015, 03:31 PM)
Knew it but considering you are the first one to share.

Just hope it brings better picture quality like Z3+
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Ya, hopefully it brings much better image quality jz like Z3+...
From the teaser, it seems like it will hav a faster focusing~
And also, at least 16GB internal storage please~ blush.gif
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ Jul 31 2015, 04:00 PM)
Waa. What I need is the detailssssss.
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QUOTE(neo0915 @ Jul 31 2015, 04:16 PM)
Ya, hopefully it brings much better image quality jz like Z3+...
From the teaser, it seems like it will hav a faster focusing~
And also, at least 16GB internal storage please~  blush.gif
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BTW, the shutter speed on Z3+ is slower than my Z2. blink.gif
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Was considering C4 & M4 (perhaps galaxy A5?) previously, until C4 poor battery result as GSMA reports lately.

M4 is a real deal for daily use and replacing my olddd galaxy S2 without burning the pocket. Anyone can share overheat issue on M4?
I tried demo unit at shopping mall with video recording for about 2 mins, yes it does warm up but not until the level of uncomfortable hot.

So, what about heating level on web browsing, GPS navigating, gaming and etc...owners pls share?
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QUOTE(imjustakit @ Jul 31 2015, 08:42 PM)
Was considering C4 & M4 (perhaps galaxy A5?) previously, until C4 poor battery result as GSMA reports lately.

M4 is a real deal for daily use and replacing my olddd galaxy S2 without burning the pocket. Anyone can share overheat issue on M4?
I tried demo unit at shopping mall with video recording for about 2 mins, yes it does warm up but not until the level of uncomfortable hot.

So, what about heating level on web browsing, GPS navigating, gaming and etc...owners pls share?
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Cann consider new moto g also. spec better than m4
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QUOTE(imjustakit @ Jul 31 2015, 08:42 PM)
Was considering C4 & M4 (perhaps galaxy A5?) previously, until C4 poor battery result as GSMA reports lately.

M4 is a real deal for daily use and replacing my olddd galaxy S2 without burning the pocket. Anyone can share overheat issue on M4?
I tried demo unit at shopping mall with video recording for about 2 mins, yes it does warm up but not until the level of uncomfortable hot.

So, what about heating level on web browsing, GPS navigating, gaming and etc...owners pls share?
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im M4 user.. u can feel warm on camera lens area during heavy usage or some apps like Chrome, GPS (by mobile data).. last week i did play a lot of AR effect apps with my nieces.. same feel warm/heat but not until not comfort to touch.. because warm area only located on camera spot there, i believe motherboard and CPU located there as well.. the body of phone is good to hold so wont affect normal usage..

8gb internal storage is the big concern for everyone including me.. but i know the purpose and how i use a smartphone for now.. so i think its still sufficient to me currently, but not in future (unless got root)..

battery life (wifi on, use FB, chrome, youtube, whatsapp, line, messenger can go up to 6 hours Screen on time for 1 day frm morning till night) (mobile data can be 3.5~4 hours screen on time depend on coverage and signal)

battery life normally nt a much issue for M4.. me charge my phone every 2 days currently with 2 hours screen on time per day with wifi on at home and office (smart connect setting for everyday auto wifi on off).. so 2 days usage, screen on time 4 hours.. i would say battery life is great for M4..

camera is good.. even in lowlight, the output is good.. not that blur.. focus area always good one, out of focus area is blur.. can check some of samples in previous page in this thread.

performance, i dont know how its perform in gaming part since i just use for daily usage.. Uber, FB, LINE, whatsapp, chrome, youtube, etc... no problem or lag found (except enter to setting>storage>a bit laggy feel in storage or apps page.. due to system trying to compute the size of apps) but i think can be further improve in future, cause no lag found in my ZL..

GPS is good.. cause everyday im using it.. Uber app, google, papago.. but waze cannot use.. Even waze also announced that they are finding solution for Xperia M4 aqua.. up to the latest apps, there are no map showing in waze yet.. so this might be some concern for users.. temporary im using google map to check traffic info..

web browsing (with wifi connected, there are minimal warm you can feel, but with data on, my home celcom connection not so stable, so will feel the warm after a couple minutes)
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directd selling official set for Rm1089, so fast drop price d?

DirectD Sony C4
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Is the so call C5 ultra dual sim?
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QUOTE(Elvin7 @ Jul 31 2015, 11:54 PM)
Is the so call C5 ultra dual sim?
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not confirmed yet.

EDIT : the C5 Ultra will be 6" and a new model Xperia M5 leaked as well.

http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/07/31/sony-...medium=facebook

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Aug 1 2015, 09:36 AM)
not confirmed yet.

EDIT : the C5 Ultra will be 6" and a new model Xperia M5 leaked as well.

http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/07/31/sony-...medium=facebook
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Haha after saw that then I would say I'm get Fuck up to get M4. M5 is much step further than M4. Wow. Just half year cycle. GG
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Aug 1 2015, 10:15 AM)
Haha after saw that then I would say I'm get Fuck up to get M4. M5 is much step further than M4. Wow. Just half year cycle. GG
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Haha...sony really screw up it's customer... This M5 spec really very good with IMX230 sensor which Z3+ pun tak da
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It will sell like hot cake if below 1.5k
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QUOTE(Elvin7 @ Aug 1 2015, 11:07 AM)
It will sell like hot cake if below 1.5k
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so let me assume pricing for C5 Ultra and M5.
C5 Ultra will be RM1599, M5 will be RM1699.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Aug 1 2015, 09:36 AM)
not confirmed yet.

EDIT : the C5 Ultra will be 6" and a new model Xperia M5 leaked as well.

http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/07/31/sony-...medium=facebook
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Dam, both C5 n M5 are tempting~ drool.gif drool.gif
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But I think Malaysia market won't get so fast even launching next Monday right? Time is very important.
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QUOTE(Elvin7 @ Aug 1 2015, 11:21 AM)
But I think Malaysia market won't get so fast even launching next Monday right? Time is very important.
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3 August is just announcement date, not release date. So I assume ETA for stocks to enter Malaysia is October.
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WOW now sony got my attention back, hey hey xperia L user here.. Gd job sony with upcoming c5 ultra & m5, mediatek duo....hope both camera dont dissapoint..

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QUOTE(newmaster @ Aug 1 2015, 12:47 PM)
WOW now sony got my attention back, hey hey xperia L user here.. Gd job sony with upcoming c5 ultra & m5, mediatek duo....hope both camera dont dissapoint..
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Go for M5 for the IMX230 sensor. brows.gif
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C5 ultra look very sexy
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 31 2015, 10:21 PM)
im M4 user.. u can feel warm on camera lens area during heavy usage or some apps like Chrome, GPS (by mobile data).. last week i did play a lot of AR effect apps with my nieces.. same feel warm/heat but not until not comfort to touch.. because warm area only located on camera spot there, i believe motherboard and CPU located there as well.. the body of phone is good to hold so wont affect normal usage..

8gb internal storage is the big concern for everyone including me.. but i know the purpose and how i use a smartphone for now.. so i think its still sufficient to me currently, but not in future (unless got root)..

battery life (wifi on, use FB, chrome, youtube, whatsapp, line, messenger can go up to 6 hours Screen on time for 1 day frm morning till night) (mobile data can be 3.5~4 hours screen on time depend on coverage and signal)

battery life normally nt a much issue for M4.. me charge my phone every 2 days currently with 2 hours screen on time per day with wifi on at home and office (smart connect setting for everyday auto wifi on off).. so 2 days usage, screen on time 4 hours.. i would say battery life is great for M4..

camera is good.. even in lowlight, the output is good.. not that blur.. focus area always good one, out of focus area is blur.. can check some of samples in previous page in this thread.

performance, i dont know how its perform in gaming part since i just use for daily usage.. Uber, FB, LINE, whatsapp, chrome, youtube, etc... no problem or lag found (except enter to setting>storage>a bit laggy feel in storage or apps page.. due to system trying to compute the size of apps) but i think can be further improve in future, cause no lag found in my ZL..

GPS is good.. cause everyday im using it.. Uber app, google, papago.. but waze cannot use.. Even waze also announced that they are finding solution for Xperia M4 aqua.. up to the latest apps, there are no map showing in waze yet.. so this might be some concern for users.. temporary im using google map to check traffic info..

web browsing (with wifi connected, there are minimal warm you can feel, but with data on, my home celcom connection not so stable, so will feel the warm after a couple minutes)
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Thanks ChuanHong!
Didnt expect for a so detailed advice.

Wow~ the upcoming C5 & M5 are soo tempting..espcialy the C5 will be the great threat for the newly release A8 rclxms.gif

BTW, what abt the xperia T line up..dropped already? IMO, it's good that Sony keeps their product line up tightening.
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QUOTE(imjustakit @ Aug 1 2015, 07:32 PM)
Thanks ChuanHong!
Didnt expect for a so detailed advice.

Wow~ the upcoming C5 & M5 are soo tempting..espcialy the C5 will be the great threat for the newly release A8 rclxms.gif

BTW, what abt the xperia T line up..dropped already? IMO, it's good that Sony keeps their product line up tightening.
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haha after saw the leak for C5 and M5, can direct skip all the current sony smartphone even Z3+..
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Just want to know, how many are annoyed by bezels of a phone?
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Aug 1 2015, 08:50 PM)
Just want to know, how many are annoyed by bezels of a phone?
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im ok with bezel.. i just want good battery life phone with stable software.. thats all.. haha
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X-M5 powered by Hello X10 MTK, 3gb ram and same Motoxstyle 21mp camera

Killer spec for a midranger
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QUOTE(JonSpark @ Aug 1 2015, 10:23 PM)
X-M5 powered by Hello X10 MTK, 3gb ram and same Motoxstyle 21mp camera

Killer spec for a midranger
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I think it's close to high end.
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I want buy another phone, M5..

LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vIEK2tb8c8

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Aug 3 2015, 12:35 PM)
I want buy another phone, M5..

LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vIEK2tb8c8

official M5 video
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And sell your M4 Aqua? brows.gif
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Aug 3 2015, 12:35 PM)
I want buy another phone, M5..

LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vIEK2tb8c8

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Dam~ way better than Z3+~
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Aug 1 2015, 09:36 AM)
not confirmed yet.

EDIT : the C5 Ultra will be 6" and a new model Xperia M5 leaked as well.

http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/07/31/sony-...medium=facebook
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Gosh, was close to getting the C4 but after seeing the posts here for the past few days, I think I'll wait few months for the C5 Ultra instead!

I do hope your estimation of 1,599 is correct, although I have a feeling Sony might up it to 1,899 at launch... Fingers crossed!

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Sony M5 and C5 Ultra officially announced.

M5

C5
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QUOTE(silentsunami @ Aug 3 2015, 02:02 PM)
Sony M5 and C5 Ultra officially announced.

M5

C5
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Even C5 Ultra, they claimed to hav 2 days battery life~
I luv the C5 ultra bezel free display but the M5 spec is way better~ hmm.gif
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QUOTE(attw @ Aug 3 2015, 01:24 PM)
Gosh, was close to getting the C4 but after seeing the posts here for the past few days, I think I'll wait few months for the C5 Ultra instead!

I do hope your estimation of 1,599 is correct, although I have a feeling Sony might up it to 1,899 at launch... Fingers crossed!
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If you read the article, they estimated the price range for it.
I chose the highest price range and increased according to our gomen standard. flex.gif
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QUOTE(neo0915 @ Aug 3 2015, 02:43 PM)
Even C5 Ultra, they claimed to hav 2 days battery life~
I luv the C5 ultra bezel free display but the M5 spec is way better~  hmm.gif
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yalo...sony stated 2 days battery life as well. hopefully this M5's IMX230 can help sony regain back it's glory
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QUOTE(silentsunami @ Aug 3 2015, 02:53 PM)
yalo...sony stated 2 days battery life as well. hopefully this M5's IMX230 can help sony regain back it's glory
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C5 ultra is not using IMX230 right ?
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Aug 3 2015, 02:49 PM)
If you read the article, they estimated the price range for it.
I chose the highest price range and increased according to our gomen standard. flex.gif
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Ya, our gomen standard + 6%... Sigh...

Anyway both new phones look good... now to wait 3 months or more before it gets here....
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QUOTE(neo0915 @ Aug 3 2015, 03:01 PM)
C5 ultra is not using IMX230 right ?
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No No. Only M5 using IMX230
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QUOTE(silentsunami @ Aug 3 2015, 03:08 PM)
No No. Only M5 using IMX230
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doh.gif Sigh~
Y not use in C5 ultra as well~

Anyhow, M5 is like a huge jump from M4~
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Aug 3 2015, 12:44 PM)
And sell your M4 Aqua? brows.gif
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give to my dad or gf.. LOL

QUOTE(neo0915 @ Aug 3 2015, 01:15 PM)
Dam~ way better than Z3+~
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haha feel way better than Z3.. now it's 2nd half of 2015..
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Wow from the promo vid M5 really have fast shutter too, no typical sony loading circle style.. If it bahave like in the vid, i might consider it..
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if the Xperia M5 is as impressive as the ad, then i will consider getting it after my Z2 dies. laugh.gif
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yes it indeed quite impressive if really work as the video.
with lower entry price but near flagship spec, it will sure capture more users!!
right move Sony!
It is good to dump low end models and focus on flagship and flagship striped down model only. the top priority is solve the camera performance and bring back the Sony phone camera on top again!!
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Split seconds, 0.25 second. That's faster than S6's 0.6 second. thumbup.gif
Just hope this sensor bring Sony's camera performance up! thumbup.gif
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@ChuanHong ,how much you buy your m4 aqua dual?is it from sony malaysia?

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" I can take perfect shot even things moving very fast" <---- that's the cue rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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any idea when can we get our hand on these M5 beauty... if soon enough may skip M4
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QUOTE(colt45 @ Aug 4 2015, 11:31 AM)
any idea when can we get our hand on these M5 beauty... if soon enough may skip M4
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judging from Z3's launch at IFA 2014, i assume we can get it on October.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Aug 4 2015, 11:44 AM)
judging from Z3's launch at IFA 2014, i assume we can get it on October.
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If Oct, may as well wait for Z5~ Lolx~
Anyway, im definitely wait for M5 & C5 then only decide which 1 to go~ bye bye C4~
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just wait lorr ,it's worth the wait... cant afford with price for z5(side power button finger print sensor), M5 enough made me want it so much...hnngghhh

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