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Got a J41 job! I'm grateful that I'm to get a gov job offer.

Just got a call from the HR department of Kementerian Kesihatan Malaysia (not JKR  ) : Told me I'd get a posting letter soon, but when I asked the HR officer of the kind of work i would be doing, he said: "bro, kerja u ialah maintenance of elevators and lifts in hospitals.."

I'm not so worried about the salary as I am about the kind of work I'd actually be doing. So I think the HR officer was just giving a textbook answer and not properly explaining to me what I'd be doing.. With my current job in a Consultant firm, I'm actually over-loaded with all kinds of work - from detailed design, to management, to business development- all sorts of stuff- but the downside is that this Consultant does not pay for my PDP (professional development program) training, and really doesn't pay well either.

Factors which will influence my decision to move to Public / stay in Private :
1) Will I actually be doing "maintenance" or would I be able to be involved in actual design engineering, yada yada? (Note: I'm not going to be assigned to JKR but KKM) Personally, I get satisfaction from learning stuffand I heard that in the government you get to go for training- in fact they'd be more than willing to send you places for training. Is this true?

2) Job security- private sector can kick you out anytime, but everyone seems to assume the government will keep you in service.

3) Pension security - sigh. this can be a real FML - How can you even be sure your pension is secure, let alone your KWSP money. We're just presuming that in about 20 plus yrs when we retire, government will faithfully give money to you?

4) I'm a non-bumi, so I'm worried about the whole "you-aint-us-so-you-wont-go-high". Myth or Reality?
I appreciate all helpful comments/advice,
And can someone give a simple breakdown of the salary & benefits scheme of working for the government?

I heard gaji now will be 2360 +
Elaun Perumahan - 250
Elaun Tetap Perkhidmatan Awam - 300
Elaun Kritikal - 750
Elaun COLA (mengikut lokaliti - 300

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Got a J41 job! I'm grateful that I'm to get a gov job offer.

Just got a call from the HR department of Kementerian Kesihatan Malaysia (not JKR  ) : Told me I'd get a posting letter soon, but when I asked the HR officer of the kind of work i would be doing, he said: "bro, kerja u ialah maintenance of elevators and lifts in hospitals.."

I'm not so worried about the salary as I am about the kind of work I'd actually be doing. So I think the HR officer was just giving a textbook answer and not properly explaining to me what I'd be doing.. With my current job in a Consultant firm, I'm actually over-loaded with all kinds of work - from detailed design, to management, to business development- all sorts of stuff- but the downside is that this Consultant does not pay for my PDP (professional development program) training, and really doesn't pay well either.

Factors which will influence my decision to move to Public / stay in Private :
1) Will I actually be doing "maintenance" or would I be able to be involved in actual design engineering, yada yada? (Note: I'm not going to be assigned to JKR but KKM) Personally, I get satisfaction from learning stuffand I heard that in the government you get to go for training- in fact they'd be more than willing to send you places for training. Is this true?

2) Job security- private sector can kick you out anytime, but everyone seems to assume the government will keep you in service.

3) Pension security - sigh. this can be a real FML - How can you even be sure your pension is secure, let alone your KWSP money. We're just presuming that in about 20 plus yrs when we retire, government will faithfully give money to you?

4) I'm a non-bumi, so I'm worried about the whole "you-aint-us-so-you-wont-go-high". Myth or Reality?
I appreciate all helpful comments/advice,
And can someone give a simple breakdown of the salary & benefits scheme of working for the government?

I heard gaji now will be 2360 +
Elaun Perumahan - 250
Elaun Tetap Perkhidmatan Awam - 300
Elaun Kritikal - 750
Elaun COLA (mengikut lokaliti - 300

J41 but still contract bro.

Nowadays gomen job also got contract, 1 year, 2 years.

If the management wants to fire you, they can do so without any valid reasons pun.

Try check balik your agreement.

Other than this, congrats on your new job and good luck!

Selamat menjadi pencacai Jay Ampat Puluh Satu huehuehue

syukur boleh masuk kerja lambat balik awal dan kuih time teh time kuih time teh time kuih time teh time

I'm a Mechanical Eng.
Would appreciate more inputs on the posting location under kementerian kesihatan...

u got offer for permanent or contact post (J41) ?
AFAIK, all those under J scheme is under JKR, 'gunasama' which means later can change agency if not satifsied with MOH.

u got call from MOH,so contract basis is it ?

also J41 do lots of paperwork, presenation, etc. also can make sebutharga/tender when buying stuf/service...

who is ur  ketua perkhidmatan? if MOH is taking you in straight without u going thru SPA, its a contract position.

Ketua not stated, but this letter came through SPA letter head .

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Factors which will influence my decision to move to Public / stay in Private :
1) Will I actually be doing "maintenance" or would I be able to be involved in actual design engineering, yada yada? (Note: I'm not going to be assigned to JKR but KKM) Personally, I get satisfaction from learning stuffand I heard that in the government you get to go for training- in fact they'd be more than willing to send you places for training. Is this true?

2) Job security- private sector can kick you out anytime, but everyone seems to assume the government will keep you in service.

3) Pension security - sigh. this can be a real FML - How can you even be sure your pension is secure, let alone your KWSP money. We're just presuming that in about 20 plus yrs when we retire, government will faithfully give money to you?

4) I'm a non-bumi, so I'm worried about the whole "you-aint-us-so-you-wont-go-high". Myth or Reality?
I appreciate all helpful comments/advice,
And can someone give a simple breakdown of the salary & benefits scheme of working for the government?

I heard gaji now will be 2360 +
Elaun Perumahan - 250
Elaun Tetap Perkhidmatan Awam - 300
Elaun Kritikal - 750
Elaun COLA (mengikut lokaliti - 300

hi four_add,

what's AFAIK?

On changing agencies, I suppose that would be totally subject to position availability - I'm from KL so i'd do my best to get a job in KL la. Maybe the office in Putrajaya, don't know yet.
Also, on what basis do you say J41 is for paperwork, tender evaluation, as compared to the rest? Everyone here has not been giving basis to their claims that J41 is like that, especially since this comes under MoH purview.

Ketua not stated, but this letter came through SPA letter head .

Ala.

Karipap lagi.

Hospital??
Gud luck have fun

take this as a learning experience, learning the ropes and building contacts to owning/partnering your own contractor business later. actually, that's where the real money is - when you branch off on your own.

Welcome aboard, I also Medical officer in KKM. But why jurutera got Elaun Kritikal RM750?

1. Pegawai Kawalan Trafik Udara
2. Pembantu Perubatan
3. Pembantu Teknik Kapal Terbang
4. Penerbit Rancangan
5. Penolong Pegawai Kawalan Trafik Udara
6. Arkitek
7. Arkitek Laut
8. Jururawat
9. Jurutera
10. Jurutera Laut
11. Juruterbang/ Pemeriksaan Juruterbang
12. Juruukur Bahan
13. Malim
14. Pegawai Ehwal Ekonomi (di MIDA)
15. Pegawai Farmasi
Pegawai Laut
17. Pegawai Penyelidikan
18. Pegawai Pergigian
19. Pegawai Perikanan (kejuruteraan)
20. Pegawai Perkhidmatan Pendidikan Lepasan Diploma
(kejuruteraan)
21. Pegawai Perkhidmatan Pendidikan Siswazah
(Kejuruteraan)
22. Pegawai Pertanian (kejuruteraan)
23. Pegawai Pertanian (Kejuruteraan)
24. Pegawai Perubatan
25. Pegawai Undang-undang
26. Pembantu Pegawai Latihan Vokasional
27. Penolong Pegawai Latihan Vokasional/ Pegawai Latihan
Vokasional
28. Pemeriksa Kapal Terbang
29. Pemeriksa Kilang Dan Jentera
30. Pengajar (kejururawatan)
31. Penjaga Jentera Elektrik
32. Penolong Jurutera Laut
33. Penolong Pegawai Laut
34. Penolong Pemeriksaan Kilang Dan Jentera
35. Pensyarah Perubatan
36. Pensyarah Pergigian
37. Pensyarah UiTM (kejuruteraan, perundangan,
kejururawatan, ukur bahan, seni bina dan farmasi
38. Pensyarah Universiti (kejuruteraan, perundangangan

I went for the interview but colan simpanan onli. But the salary is lower than what i earn nao so.... It's depressing

I went for the interview but colan simpanan onli. But the salary is lower than what i earn nao so.... It's depressing

J41 will be penolong pengarah level. You will be doing a lot of management work. Do a lot of working papers and attend meetings.

You won't be doing much of technical hands on works. It will be done by the Technician.

Your job also to design and manage project.

2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Its a mixture of reality and myth.

It's a permanent position according to the offer letter

I heard gaji now will be 2360 +
Elaun Perumahan - 250
Elaun Tetap Perkhidmatan Awam - 300
Elaun Kritikal - 750
Elaun COLA (mengikut lokaliti - 300
Hiding Elaun given by contactor - unknown

since years ago KKM aldy not use JKR service, KKM do their own maintenance and design and build for all hospital, now JKR only monitor the building of hospital project but mostly still under KKM decision

Whether maintenance of construction work, I'll take them all. I don't want to be too comfortable with doing the same old same old.

Gaji lower, far away from my home in KL,  have to pay rent, doing work which I don't know if I will enjoy as much,  it all  doesn't make sense. Still I'm going to try anyway. Never ventured never known.