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post Oct 21 2006, 06:13 AM

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QUOTE(digilife @ Oct 20 2006, 10:56 AM)
wat i done to my old thread is because you guys are not contributing but juz bashing me, so i am juz being human , even a cat will run away if being chased by an anjing


they ARE contributions.

contributions come in many way, in our posts we highlighted the many CONS of various issues..

bashing? first of all you can't even defend your points from our "bashes", heck the good posts were from Infinity and Empire23. smile.gif

can't take the heat? don't start the fire.

QUOTE(e88mickey @ Oct 19 2006, 02:08 PM)
this trade zone is a very good place for connies to con ppl because the forum admin ady said tat they are not responsible for trades conducted here........balblablablal...
yeah right. and do you think cons would be reduced if we took responsibility? not a chance, not as long as there are idiots (and irresponsible people) doing buying / selling.


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post Oct 22 2006, 03:44 PM

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The main purpose of this thread is for you guys to voice out your opinions about our Trade Zone

Kindly list down your valuable ideas, feedbacks and suggestions


Guys, Do read and understand the title properly before posting..

This thread is for you guys to voice out your opinions about our Trade Zone, means everything about Trade Zone, We not just focusing on New Secure Trading System. Let me emphasize again, Trade Zone is NOT all about how to PREVENT CONS.

We are asking for ideas on how to improve our Trade Zone, example like what one of em suggested >>here<<

Also, please don't repost the ideas that we've already discussed before. It's just like "frying old vegetable" and at the end it's just a pointless debate.

We hope that you guys can come out with new and fresh ideas to improve our TZ smile.gif

P/S: Post in a mature manner, leave your personal problems with others outside.

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here are a few minor suggestions from me

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Comments and Critiques are welcomed smile.gif

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post Oct 22 2006, 06:27 PM

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if nobody wants to take the responsibility

CLOSE THE TRADING ZONE!!!

let lelong & ebay do the trading...

there's no reason to put up notice "LYN not be held responsible if anything wrong happen"...

just close the whole zone and direct it to some other channel...
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post Oct 22 2006, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(iZuDeeN @ Oct 22 2006, 06:27 PM)
if nobody wants to take the responsibility

CLOSE THE TRADING ZONE!!!

let lelong & ebay do the trading...

there's no reason to put up notice "LYN not be held responsible if anything wrong happen"...

just close the whole zone and direct it to some other channel...
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Frankly, you guys should be thankful that lyn is providing a FREE medium for you peeps out there to sell your personal stuff and some are selling their stuff for living, instead of being grateful, some of you guys just being too demanding. You expect this and that without thinking the consequences and just blurt out your personal dissatisfactions. You are using a FREE medium to sell stuff, and you expect the skies when you paid nothing for it?
Worse still, you expect the FREE medium to be held responsible for the sales you conducted here. Grow up peeps.

Looking forward to see more suggestion on improving TZ features rather then discussing about PREVENTING CON
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post Oct 22 2006, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(iZuDeeN @ Oct 22 2006, 08:27 PM)
if nobody wants to take the responsibility

CLOSE THE TRADING ZONE!!!
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Arguably, we provide a useful trading noticeboard service to the community. With this service:
  • we provide proactive enforcement (through TEs and general moderating staff)
  • we provide a simple method (Report Button) to report infringements. which we are receptive to.
  • we provide a channel for resolving trade disputes (Dispute Corner forum)
  • we provide a pseudo-feedback channel (the Succesful Trades List topic)
  • we provide guides to trading safely (among others) on the forum (Resource Center forum)
  • and we've always opened the floor up to people for constructive feedback (Feedback & Helpdesk forum). Although it is sometimes misunderstood that "staff don't want to listen", when it is really the feedback which isn't sound.
So, I believe we've fulfilled our role in social responsibility - hence closing this trading section on your basis is out of the question.

We cannot make the right choices for the members. This applies to every real-time Internet site too (where posting is instantaneous). A fool can get cheated on Lelong or Ebay just as easily as he can here, because if you notice, those sites allow unverified traders too.

Finally, I would like to ask you to examine http://craigslist.org and compare their modus operandi to ours.
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QUOTE(iZuDeeN @ Oct 22 2006, 06:27 PM)
if nobody wants to take the responsibility

CLOSE THE TRADING ZONE!!!

let lelong & ebay do the trading...

there's no reason to put up notice "LYN not be held responsible if anything wrong happen"...

just close the whole zone and direct it to some other channel...
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Now this has to be even stupider than the other suggestions...
Should parking lots with the "Management will not bear responsibility for loss from theft" sign be closed down too since they're not responsible for theft and stuff like that?

And u think that lelong.com and ebay.com.my are any different?
Go ask the ppl who were conned there, ask them what the final outcome was
Just cause this is a forum where you can let ppl know when you're conned doesnt mean that it's any worst
It only seems better at other trading sites cause you dont see it when ppl get conned

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Ebay and lelong also got many con case ... Both website suggest seller not to deal outside of ebay/lelong but how many follows that?
Lowyat.net already giving free trade zone for traders / sellers & admin/mod/trade enforcer to control trading zone ... Even police also cannot solve some case... Nothing is perfect guyz.. Grow up.. Don't expect so much.. Want to be buyer? Be smart... No one can help you from not being con.. I wonder if there's any program to test ur common sense.. If you fail then don't do trading.. Go shop and buy..
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post Oct 26 2006, 02:53 PM

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I suggest that all [WTS] threads to be put into another subforum altogether and all [WTB] threads to be in another. Neater and comparatively easier navigation.

Just a suggestion.
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post Oct 26 2006, 03:17 PM

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and have subforums for each?
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post Oct 27 2006, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 26 2006, 03:17 PM)
and have subforums for each?
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Like for example Handphone & Accessories forum, to have another 2 subforums, one for [WTS] threads and another for [WTB] threads.

Applies to every Garage Sales forum.
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post Oct 27 2006, 12:56 AM

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Making separate WTB/WTS forums involves doubling the forums in TZ. Due to the way the forum is written, this adds a lot of overhead.

A solution was proposed in the main Feedback, where post icons are used to signify selling/buying. I think that's a better idea.
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post Oct 27 2006, 03:26 AM

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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Oct 27 2006, 12:56 AM)
Making separate WTB/WTS forums involves doubling the forums in TZ. Due to the way the forum is written, this adds a lot of overhead.

A solution was proposed in the main Feedback, where post icons are used to signify selling/buying. I think that's a better idea.
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I agree. But putting WTS and WTB threads altogether seems a little messed up and cluttered. Or probably can take into consideration keeping it as it is but just to add a subforum for WTB items, meaning the main forum is for selling whereas a subforum for WTB threads.

I think it's beneficial as we don't need to go through so many pages at one particular Garage Sales forum because ALL the threads all situated together. When dedicated subforums are made available, definitely the page count will decrease and the persistant problem of people not including their tags will be rectified (as we don't need the tags anymore).

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From experience, too many subforums tend to put people off. There aren't many WTB threads anyway, so I don't quite see it as a problem. In fact, once we make that icon thing, it would be easy to spot your WTB threads with just a quick glance through the index.

Having a general WTB subforum is perhaps an option (which we have been considering for some time) - all the WTB threads could go in there. I'm reluctant to have a WTB subforum in each Garage Sales subforum. Thank you for your suggestion, anyway, its nice to read something constructive and well put together.
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Having a general WTB subforum may not be a good solution, because there are actually more WTB topics than you think (the WTS:WTB ratio is about 4:1) smile.gif
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instead of putting WTB or WTS logo, how bout putting
BUY logo
SELL logo ?

It's easier to distinguish between (BUY and SELL) compared to (WTB and WTS)

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post Oct 27 2006, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(vikingw2k @ Oct 27 2006, 10:43 AM)
instead of putting WTB or WTS logo, how bout putting
BUY logo
SELL logo ?

It's easier to distinguish between (BUY and SELL) compared to (WTB and WTS)
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i think you are confusing between logo and tags.. what is being discussed it to replace the WTS/WTB tags with icons for buying or selling..i think that's a good idea..don't forget we'll also need an icon for WTT.. since we're on the topic.. maybe we need an icon for bidding?.. or maybe it should be declared on the title?.. its not a big issue though.. the way it is now is just fine..
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QUOTE(zx12 @ Oct 27 2006, 03:10 PM)
i think you are confusing between logo and tags.. what is being discussed it to replace the WTS/WTB tags with icons for buying or selling..i think that's a good idea..don't forget we'll also need an icon for WTT.. since we're on the topic.. maybe we need an icon for bidding?.. or maybe it should be declared on the title?.. its not a big issue though.. the way it is now is just fine..
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I guess you are confused

What i meant was instead of putting WTS inside the logo like this

user posted image

why not put SELL, or BUY instead?
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Haha true.. didn't really think of that since it's been the culture here to say "WTB" or "WTS".
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QUOTE(blinky @ Oct 27 2006, 03:26 AM)
I agree. But putting WTS and WTB threads altogether seems a little messed up and cluttered. Or probably can take into consideration keeping it as it is but just to add a subforum for WTB items, meaning the main forum is for selling whereas a subforum for WTB threads.

I think it's beneficial as we don't need to go through so many pages at one particular Garage Sales forum because ALL the threads all situated together. When dedicated subforums are made available, definitely the page count will decrease and the persistant problem of people not including their tags will be rectified (as we don't need the tags anymore).

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An easier way would probably be to make the Buy/Sell tags filterable
That way when someone's looking for WTS threads, just filter and all the WTB threads will be gone
The only difference from having a special subforum would be for those ppl who are simply browsing threads without really looking for anything, then it wouldnt be much of a problem in the first place

BUY/SELL does seem more obvious than WTB/WTS, but i dont think there was ever much of a problem with anyone recognizing the tag
Well some ppl do every now and then, but i bet that's because they didnt look properly, so it'll be the same no matter how we make it obvious tongue.gif
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Bravo to all members, the user posted image tag is sweet.

How about one for Minor Offender, one more for Blacklist?

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