this trade zone is a very good place for connies to con ppl because the forum admin ady said tat they are not responsible for trades conducted here,
therefore would-be connies will be able to device a way to con newbies and unsuspecting ppl and greedy ppl,
because MOST ppl here dun bother to read or do not knoe tat here  exist a form of platform to get educated if sufficient read-up is being done.........
moreover most ppl here do not seems to understand simple english
juz take a look around TZDRC and you will knoe tat  ppl get swindle here........
dun believe, juz take a poll and you would be amazed tat only a few percentage of forumer here know the do and dont's of trading in lyn UNTIL they encountered some sort of trade problem

this is called typical malaysian mentality..........first world infrastructure forth world mentality ( sry already slipped a notch downward)

For those who have been BLACKLISTED.... moderators, kindly put a TAG on their name, thus preventing them from conning other ppl...

Not many ppl will check the blacklist thread, hence if the blacklisted guy/gurl open a thread, ppl immediately can view and take necessary precaution...

The only possible escape way for this is to create another account, which we all know, those with 0 post we dont really deal with...

For those who have been BLACKLISTED.... moderators, kindly put a TAG on their name, thus preventing them from conning other ppl...

Not many ppl will check the blacklist thread, hence if the blacklisted guy/gurl open a thread, ppl immediately can view and take necessary precaution...

The only possible escape way for this is to create another account, which we all know, those with 0 post we dont really deal with...

The main issue is finding the *******. That is not going to be easy. Even if can find IP address, so what? Chances are he was online from an Internet cafe.

And about the pic, of course its not his real face la! Its probably a photo of someone he conned b4 for all you know.

The only other alternative that i can think of is hiring a private investigator. But that will be expensive liao.

And the fact that all the details and his nickname has been publicised so much, it has probably killed the slightest chance of getting him.

I myself personally never deal poslaju or courier or whatever unless i have no choice. And if I have to pay first and wait for stuff to come through the post/courier, i try to limit it RM250.00 in value. I will only go higher if I am dealing with an established reputable company or set up but will still try to check on background first.

Viking, you were already worried about being conned hence you wanted to have a test deal first at a limit of RM500. Why did you break your own rules by paying another RM200? And if you were prepared to lose RM500 knowing full well the risks, why the unusual "upsetness"? It seems to me you are more upset than you should be for a person who knew full well the risks and took it anyway.

One more thing, yes, dealing COD is no doubt the best way. But try to bring a friend along with you. If you can get a few friends to come along, even better. But if there is a group of you, ask your friends to stand or sit a short distance away while you are completing the transaction, otherwise you may end up intimidating a genuine buyer/seller who may be alone. The reason I say to bring along a friend with you is to try to prevent or discourage snatching. If there is snatching, you at least have help to try to catch the fella. At the minimum, you have witness(es) which may be helpful in a police report or identifying the culprit.

Think about the place you are going to meet up too. Meet in a very public place with lotsa pple around. IMHO, find a place where you and the other party can sit down but sit further away from the entrance. That way, not so easy for the culprit to run away if he/she ends up snatching. Be also aware of the possibility that the person may have an accomplice i.e. he/she won't do the snatching him/herself but the accomplice will. Then the other party will just say, "alamak, bad luck for you. But since kena snatch already, no deal." Later, the person and the accomplice will just sell the item snatched and split it among themselves. As a buyer, remember, your money may get snatched too. Always be aware of your surroundings and whats going on around you.

Further, if you are a woman, for goodness sake, never go deal alone for obvious risks. Bring along a guy or some guys.

Lastly, a conman may also be a conWoman. Just because the person is a girl/woman, dun think you won't get cheated. For the guys, dun get distracted if she is really beautiful or sweet looking or sexily dressed. I dun mean to sound sexist here, but its a fact of life. For the girls, just because the other person seems to be such a nice sweet girl, doesn't mean she is not a conwoman.

I noticed this thread is pinned, So I'd like to add my 'Tips & Guidelines for Online Trading' here. Hopefully it could helps to cut down on con case.

Since its an online based, of cos there are real and there are fake. There are many ppl trying to make money in unethical way. I've seen many fake buyers/sellers especially from China and Nigeria (and some other countries).

To be safe, be very aware when you try to shop online. A few guidelines here:

1. When the deal is too good to be true, beware. I saw some ppl (normally from CHINA) post new laptops for less than RM100, even a kid knows its a scam! I even saw someone post up the pics of laptop which was taken by ME! (Its my mistake that I did not add on copyright words in my pic, the conman takes this opportunity to download my pics and trying to make buyer believes that they have the item on hand!) Scam reported to Ebay and the seller was deregistered. However, he could simply register a new nick and keep trying to con ppl out there.

2. Purchase only from those who is trustable, with long selling records. Check out the date of feedback left by buyers. If all left in a short term, somethg is fishy.

3. If the online auction/selling portal have I/C verification system (for eg. lelong.com), thats more reliable. IC verified members are normally genuine traders.

4. For expensive items, request for Cash On Delivery which is the safest way to conduct a business, especially on the first time dealing with a stranger. Those who are not sincere or not honest wont dare to meet up with you for the deal.

5. I've been an online seller for quite some time. From my personal experience, 99% of deals from overseas are FAKE. So, its better if you stick to deal with Malaysians or any other nationalities who is IN MALAYSIA. However, I also have successful trades with Singaporean from Singapore. But still have to be very careful.

I would be glad if anyone here could share your online trading experience with me. smile.gif

How about letting members into the trade zone only after they have reached a certain post count or they have been a member for a certain amount of time?

For example, the only members allowed in the Trade Zone are
1. those who have reached 50 posts, or

2. those that have joined up for more that 2 weeks

They still can register multiple accounts and wait for 2 weeks before conning again

The main purpose of this thread is for you guys to voice out your opinions about our Trade Zone

finally my feedback, yes all those guildlines are there, but it seems tat they are there for record purpose only to protect  LYN but not being shown to the unsuspecting forumer "point blank"


Kindly list down your valuable ideas, feedbacks and suggestions

abt ideas.........no nid la , cause nobody will ever listen, mods and admin will only giv negative response.....sien ady la................... once you get conned, they will say "dei lei sie" why dun read "this and tat" that was spread over here and there      

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haha this is called constructive criticism

to mods and admin , be MAN enough to take this

Just as u were woman enough to close your own thread and edit your initial post?

We'll have tonnes of newbies spamming around
They still can register multiple accounts and wait for 2 weeks before conning again

SonyEricsson W810i full package..

Price you offer me !

Please call xxx-xxx xxxx ..

Item(s): ONE

Package includes: TWO

Price: THREE

Warranty:

Dealing method: FOUR

Location of seller: FIVE

Contact method/details: SIX

Age of item:

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Item(s) conditions: SEVEN

Picture:

Reason for sale:

if you cant see my avatar is a woman, then i think tat you should be like your own avatar.....

wat i done to my old thread is because you guys are not contributing but juz bashing me, so i am juz being human , even a cat will run away if being chased by an anjing

wat i post in here is juz to bare the weakness of LYN...........bro this is called constructive criticsm......."check the imbalances here dude"

Are u stupid or just a dumbass?
I didn't say that you're a woman cause of your avatar
If you've got personal problems with me come PM me privately and we'll settle it
If you're ready to grow up and have a brain stop posting stupid stuff like a sissy and running away from the problem

So you've closed it cause we werent contributing?
And what's the reason you editted your first post with the "Great" main suggestion?
Show me which of your posts there that u were contributing?
Show me any of them u defended your suggestions properly everytime someone gives u reasons they're not accepted
All u do is post useless suggestions and when ppl tell u it wont work u say ppl arent being helpful, mods not listening
And notice how many TEs, mods and admins were replying in that thread
So far i've never seen that amount, so i'd say u were taken seriously and given quite a bit of face there
Oh and i dont recall everyone else in there supporting you and your suggestions, most ppl have enough logic to understand the reasons why certain things will not be implemented

bark like mad
wat's wrong wif your brain?