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ozak
post Dec 11 2018, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Dec 11 2018, 10:13 AM)
Japan has automation but right now, if you look at Google home and Alexa, they probably have overtaken in terms of adoption/features/connectivity/choices/voice connectivity. In another words , they don't have an ecosystem.

In the early 2000s, I could still remember Japanese phones being the forefront in technology.
Once iPhone came out , they never could compete anymore.
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Their automation culture is different. It is a close tech. Or said only in japan and not user friendly for beginner. Language and advance of the Japanese is the barrier.

That is why they can’t dominate the world. They try to export the Japanese way of automation out. But failed to know that majority of the rest of the world are not that advance thinking.

So they only able to dominate industrial level.
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post Dec 11 2018, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(y4ng @ Dec 10 2018, 10:22 AM)
LED bulb roughly smart rm35-75, stupid rm15+
2gang live wired about rm120+ smart, stupid rm10

E.g. 12units
I need 3 switches, 12 lights.
So if smart light stupid switch rm450-rm930
Vice versa, rm 540

Difference is...one can change mood colour, another one kenot
Gonna get married as well....so.....stil thinking hard

But question is which lightbulb better for investment?
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Concentrate on this 1st.

Light bulb later. biggrin.gif
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post Dec 11 2018, 02:12 PM

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Hmm guys...between google mini and echo dot 3... Whats your pick and why ?
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post Dec 11 2018, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(zzzhhhzzz @ Dec 11 2018, 02:12 PM)
Hmm guys...between google mini and echo dot 3... Whats your pick and why ?
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I have yet to receive my Dot 3rd Gen but comparing the loudness of Dot 2nd Gen & Google mini, the mini wins but sound quality seems the Dot more refine.
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post Dec 11 2018, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Dec 11 2018, 11:07 AM)
Concentrate on this 1st.

Light bulb later. biggrin.gif
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both goes hand-in-hand
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post Dec 11 2018, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Dec 11 2018, 10:20 AM)
Get the switch. You have to consider:

If you off the light switch and turn it on again , how long do you think it takes for 12 bulbs to get connected to your wifi again.
You have to maintain 12 smart lights vs maintaining 3 smart switches.
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good argument actually. The switch there would be perma on, just in case if wifi down still can turn on.

i go make an excel spreadsheet and think how to do my electrical, maybe smart bulb for hall nia. personally i like the yeelight ceiling, but potential wifey say not industrial enough wor.

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post Dec 11 2018, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Dec 11 2018, 10:07 AM)
Just finish linking alexa and homeassistant. The steps are harder than I thought.

Now I just need to wait for my echo dot so that I can create routines.
Anyway anyone knows whether Alexa is able to collect sensor status and brief you on the summary?

I would like to be able to do something like this.

Alexa, review the home security status

A:-
Gate is closed.
Front grille door is closed.
Wooden Door is locked.
Back Door is closed.
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thumbup.gif Congrats! Now the haaska setup is much easier without running make.

You can do that by using your Echo devices as a media player.
Echo Devices as Media Player

QUOTE(zzzhhhzzz @ Dec 11 2018, 02:12 PM)
Hmm guys...between google mini and echo dot 3... Whats your pick and why ?
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Depends on what is your preferences.
I choose Echo Dot 3 because I can use Google Assistant from it.



Quite impressed with Alexa English voice which suits the India subcontinent laugh.gif
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post Dec 11 2018, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(zzzhhhzzz @ Dec 11 2018, 02:12 PM)
Hmm guys...between google mini and echo dot 3... Whats your pick and why ?
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I find google Home better in answering general questions. I also like the voice better. To me the echo dot 2nd gen is a bit robotic. 3rd gen dot on the way so can’t test yet.

I hate saying hey google or ok google. I prefer saying Alexa or you can set it to Computer (like Star Trek)

Adding devices is a lot easier using Alexa cause all done automatically, just add the skill. Google Home app is a farking mess even the latest version.

If you got Chromecast you gonna want Google Home to on/off your TV or control YouTube videos.
If you get the 3rd gen dots it uses a US plug type power so that could be a problem. Need to get an adapter

Anyway bottom line both got pros and cons so buy both 😁

This post has been edited by idoblu: Dec 12 2018, 05:22 AM
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post Dec 11 2018, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Dec 11 2018, 07:59 PM)
I hate saying hey google or ok google. I prefer saying Alexa or you can set it to Computer (like Star Trek)
I thought you like call your mistress name ? tongue.gif
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post Dec 11 2018, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Dec 11 2018, 08:16 PM)
I thought you like call your mistress name ?  tongue.gif
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What mistress name? 😇
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post Dec 11 2018, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Dec 11 2018, 08:17 PM)
What mistress name? 😇
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hei bro.. i recall you mention that there is update version of xiaomi switch wireless version one and also the body sensor.. do you have the model name of the updated version ? so many version in shopee dunno which is the correct one... thx
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post Dec 11 2018, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(zzzhhhzzz @ Dec 11 2018, 11:30 PM)
hei bro.. i recall you mention that there is update version of xiaomi switch wireless version one and also the body sensor.. do you have the model name of the updated version ? so many version in shopee dunno which is the correct one... thx
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https://shopee.com.my/(Update-version)Xiaom...0616.1528226132
https://shopee.com.my/Updated-Xiaomi-Aqara-...0616.1528249700
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post Dec 12 2018, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Dec 11 2018, 11:51 PM)
Model number the same ? Cuz a lot of seller selling the same model number
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post Dec 12 2018, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(zzzhhhzzz @ Dec 12 2018, 12:38 AM)
Model number the same ? Cuz a lot of seller selling the same model number
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New and old uses the same number
You buy from the link I gave guaranteed correct one la. I bought mine from there too
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post Dec 12 2018, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Dec 12 2018, 12:40 AM)
New and old uses the same number
You buy from the link I gave guaranteed correct one la. I bought mine from there too
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the new wireless switch support double click, long press, and short press right ?

What is new in the motion sensor ?
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post Dec 12 2018, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Dec 12 2018, 12:40 AM)
New and old uses the same number
You buy from the link I gave guaranteed correct one la. I bought mine from there too
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what is the difference between new and old models?

for wall switch got new and old oso ar?

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post Dec 12 2018, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(y4ng @ Dec 12 2018, 10:12 AM)
what is the difference between new and old models?

for wall switch got new and old oso ar?

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new and old wireless switch got extra functions (refer to pic)
old one only single press function

I think wired wall switch got new version that has extra long press function but i dunno where to buy or any other info
All new versions have a color picture instead of an all white box (see pic)
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btw your single gang wireless part number is wrong - should be WXKG03LM

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post Dec 12 2018, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Dec 12 2018, 11:00 AM)
Attached Image
new and old wireless switch got extra functions (refer to pic)
old one only single press function

I think wired wall switch got new version that has extra long press function but i dunno where to buy or any other info
All new versions have a color picture instead of an all white box (see pic)
Attached Image

btw your single gang wireless part number is wrong - should be WXKG03LM
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thank you for the correction for WXKG03LM

i didn't know the old one cannot do the single press, double click and long hold one....must be extra careful now
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post Dec 12 2018, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(y4ng @ Dec 12 2018, 11:33 AM)
thank you for the correction for WXKG03LM

i didn't know the old one cannot do the single press, double click and long hold one....must be extra careful now
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even the mini wireless button (square) got new version but that one has a new part number which helps - WXKG12LM
Dunno why Lumi likes to confuse us.
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Dec 12 2018, 11:36 AM)
even the mini wireless button (square) got new version but that one has a new part number which helps - WXKG12LM
Dunno why Lumi likes to confuse us.
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