QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 16 2017, 09:05 PM)
Yes just think of it as a big switch. What do you want to turn on/off - then put this switch between that and the power plugSmart Home, Let's discuss
Smart Home, Let's discuss
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Jan 16 2017, 09:08 PM
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Jan 17 2017, 12:47 PM
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im using aeotec and fibaro to switch off items
they shud be fixing it this weekend if they can make it bought a tp link to extend the home wifi, not very stable @ alucard, here is the problem im facing, since the harmony home would be at the living hall, im thinking wat other way can i use it to voice control the tv/appletv in my room as well any ideas? the RF extender need to be wired from the hub another thing i read is the remote that comes to it, can be used to send out IR, not too sure how it works |
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Jan 17 2017, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jan 17 2017, 12:47 PM) im using aeotec and fibaro to switch off items wah bro fibaro should be able to kautim everything, how come you got many controllers they shud be fixing it this weekend if they can make it bought a tp link to extend the home wifi, not very stable @ alucard, here is the problem im facing, since the harmony home would be at the living hall, im thinking wat other way can i use it to voice control the tv/appletv in my room as well any ideas? the RF extender need to be wired from the hub another thing i read is the remote that comes to it, can be used to send out IR, not too sure how it works |
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Jan 17 2017, 01:19 PM
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got a lot controller ar? hahahha
the fibaro is some box to be added behind the main switches as said the house is to be integrate with vera, but now is how to let it fully controlled by alexa hahaha |
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Jan 17 2017, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jan 17 2017, 12:47 PM) im using aeotec and fibaro to switch off items Seems like wireless option would be all the devices listed herethey shud be fixing it this weekend if they can make it bought a tp link to extend the home wifi, not very stable @ alucard, here is the problem im facing, since the harmony home would be at the living hall, im thinking wat other way can i use it to voice control the tv/appletv in my room as well any ideas? the RF extender need to be wired from the hub another thing i read is the remote that comes to it, can be used to send out IR, not too sure how it works https://wiki.ezvid.com/best-ir-remote-exten...CFVcSHwodousEYw Btw, how many devices can you add with your hamony hub? |
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Jan 18 2017, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 17 2017, 11:29 PM) Seems like wireless option would be all the devices listed here rx330 says he stays in small apartment but I wonder what is his definition of "small" is? https://wiki.ezvid.com/best-ir-remote-exten...CFVcSHwodousEYw Btw, how many devices can you add with your hamony hub? 6000sf? |
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Jan 18 2017, 09:58 AM
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Wah, nowadays still got this RF and IR extender. Thought already obsolete.
Using 1 back 15yrs ago. Not stable with useless IR. Throw away. |
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Jan 18 2017, 10:10 AM
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Jan 18 2017, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 18 2017, 10:10 AM) It is not the cloud is not secure. It is our net infrastructure is not secure.I don't no what logic is it if just a program timer, have to go through all this Cloud-> ISP->fiber->wifi router->your wifi bulb. Just to switch ON ? A simple plug socket timer cost below RM100 already can do it and much much more secure. RF/IR have been long liau. Analog thing obsolete liau ma. Why you still need this device ? I remember brought it about RM200+. BTW, can I use my NAS cloud ? I got host cloud in my home. |
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Jan 18 2017, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 18 2017, 10:31 AM) It is not the cloud is not secure. It is our net infrastructure is not secure. If you dont use cloud, you cannot get it to do things where ever you are on this EarthI don't no what logic is it if just a program timer, have to go through all this Cloud-> ISP->fiber->wifi router->your wifi bulb. Just to switch ON ? A simple plug socket timer cost below RM100 already can do it and much much more secure. RF/IR have been long liau. Analog thing obsolete liau ma. Why you still need this device ? I remember brought it about RM200+. BTW, can I use my NAS cloud ? I got host cloud in my home. If using cloud, you can set up IFTTT - https://ifttt.com Your smartphone needs to be connected to the device - if you use bluetooth, its only nearby. If you use wifi, you need the cloud. |
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Jan 18 2017, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 18 2017, 10:35 AM) If you dont use cloud, you cannot get it to do things where ever you are on this Earth Put that prg into the bulb la. The bulb already have the IP and link to your router modem liau. From your hp apps, straight can find the bulb from where you are. Without need the cloud.If using cloud, you can set up IFTTT - https://ifttt.com Your smartphone needs to be connected to the device - if you use bluetooth, its only nearby. If you use wifi, you need the cloud. Why that IFTTT site tell me my browser outdate liau? Ask me to use chrome. I think I m outdate. |
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Jan 18 2017, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 18 2017, 11:20 AM) Put that prg into the bulb la. The bulb already have the IP and link to your router modem liau. From your hp apps, straight can find the bulb from where you are. Without need the cloud. You are obsolete Liao Why that IFTTT site tell me my browser outdate liau? Ask me to use chrome. I think I m outdate. If the device connects to your router, how your smartphone gonna connect to your device? Your smartphone can only make one connection at a time - either to the Internet or to the device. |
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Jan 18 2017, 11:36 AM
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the hub can connect till 8, unless if u buy the elite, then can go till 15 how does the IR repeater work? i connect one unit to the hub, and the other just put in another room? they will connect wirelessly? each of these IR unit needs to have a power source right? @idoblu my current house 1.2k sqf nia, not those 6k sqf penthouse Tried IFTTT, couldnt really get it to work wat i need need to experiment more the speed of it quite fast, i send a trigger from alexa to ifttt from there to philips hue, about 1 second or so |
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Jan 18 2017, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 18 2017, 11:32 AM) You are obsolete Liao I mean why you put the brain at the cloud and not the device. If the device connects to your router, how your smartphone gonna connect to your device? Your smartphone can only make one connection at a time - either to the Internet or to the device. If you outside HP apps--> modem router--> device. But now your bulb is not talk direct with you ? |
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Jan 18 2017, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 18 2017, 11:43 AM) I mean why you put the brain at the cloud and not the device. The brain is at the device but to run the brain you need software. Software is at the cloudIf you outside HP apps--> modem router--> device. But now your bulb is not talk direct with you ? Or maybe I'm wrong - software on your smartphone (app) and the cloud is like a gateway |
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Jan 18 2017, 08:40 PM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 18 2017, 11:32 AM) You are obsolete Liao Not true, why the smartphone can't connect to the device? it is also connect to router, both are able to connect to each other as they connect to the local router.If the device connects to your router, how your smartphone gonna connect to your device? Your smartphone can only make one connection at a time - either to the Internet or to the device. smartphone can make few hundred connections at a time, it can connect to smart devices and internet at the same time Why some products require cloud? it is because it is easier to maintain the software, upgrade, patching are automatically done, cloud enables product to have more control of your smart home devices. |
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Jan 18 2017, 09:07 PM
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jan 18 2017, 08:40 PM) Not true, why the smartphone can't connect to the device? it is also connect to router, both are able to connect to each other as they connect to the local router. Got any examples or not?smartphone can make few hundred connections at a time, it can connect to smart devices and internet at the same time Why some products require cloud? it is because it is easier to maintain the software, upgrade, patching are automatically done, cloud enables product to have more control of your smart home devices. |
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Jan 19 2017, 12:43 AM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 18 2017, 09:07 PM) There are many smart home devices are running locally without connecting to cloud, and managed by smart phone, especially china brand wifi smart devices like tp-link, home automation solutions like wemo, openhab, home assitant, control4, vera all can work without cloud. |
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Jan 19 2017, 04:02 AM
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jan 19 2017, 12:43 AM) There are many smart home devices are running locally without connecting to cloud, and managed by smart phone, especially china brand wifi smart devices like tp-link, home automation solutions like wemo, openhab, home assitant, control4, vera all can work without cloud. ozak there you go....no need cloud service for the aboveI think if you look at anything that uses z-wave or zigbee, then there is no need for cloud service. It's basically using RF TP-Link and Wemo still using cloud service though. This post has been edited by idoblu: Jan 19 2017, 04:03 AM |
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Jan 19 2017, 09:06 AM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 19 2017, 04:02 AM) ozak there you go....no need cloud service for the above Let say your bulb company close shop can't sustain. Cloud service sure no more since it need to pay to maintain. I think if you look at anything that uses z-wave or zigbee, then there is no need for cloud service. It's basically using RF TP-Link and Wemo still using cloud service though. What happen to your bulb and device? Will it stop functioning ? |
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