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post Apr 16 2015, 01:18 PM

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It's a good read. Yang tldr semua tu go fark yourselves pls.
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post Apr 16 2015, 01:19 PM

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Rachel Leow is lecturer at the Faculty of History, Cambridge University.

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post Apr 16 2015, 01:22 PM

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siapa quote first post memang wajar ditangkap dan dihantar ke guantanamo bay.

buduh
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post Apr 16 2015, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(ohman @ Apr 16 2015, 01:15 PM)
so should we celebrate Hari Merdeka or not?
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You mean the police serve only British interests, not involved in maintaining local peace and security?

If Mat Sabu goes free for making the statements, then ISIS will have justification for slaughter. Police/army/civil servants working for unIslamic government. Can kill their families.
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post Apr 16 2015, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(ohman @ Apr 16 2015, 01:19 PM)
Rachel Leow is lecturer at the Faculty of History, Cambridge University.

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http://www.hist.cam.ac.uk/directory/rl341
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post Apr 16 2015, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Apr 16 2015, 01:23 PM)
harvard somemore


Dr Leow joined the Cambridge History Faculty in October 2013. She completed a PhD in History at St Catharine's College, Cambridge in 2011 and a postdoctoral fellowship at Harvard University between 2011-2013. She is presently on research leave (2014-15).
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post Apr 16 2015, 01:26 PM

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A good article to read.
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post Apr 16 2015, 01:44 PM

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post Apr 16 2015, 01:52 PM

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The letter is to f*cking long.

But worth the time spent reading it.

And damn sure I agree with her points.
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post Apr 16 2015, 01:55 PM

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Haii. All also want muka. If colonize mean colonize la. Nothing to be ashame off. It's history.
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post Apr 16 2015, 01:56 PM

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Dinaung or dijajah. I would say both interpretations are accurate depending on ur definition of a colony

Reading the Pangkor Treaty where Raja Abdullah was acknowledged as the legitimate Sultan to replace Sultan Ismail and the Sultan would receive a British Resident whose advice had to be sought in all matters except those pertaining to the religion and customs of the Malays. We were never legally a British colony

But we did agree to listen to what the British said lest they might invade us or stand by as other empires do. That too can be said to be colonization.

It is not clear cut, black and white..

This post has been edited by rolling2014: Apr 16 2015, 02:00 PM
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post Apr 16 2015, 01:58 PM

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In KTM version of HIStory,

Yindians, Sikhs, CINA fighting Japan was serving the Orang Putih

Only certain soldiers can be considered as true Heros fighting against an oppressive conqueror.


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post Apr 16 2015, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(rolling2014 @ Apr 16 2015, 01:56 PM)
Dinaung or dijajah. I would say both interpretations are accurate depending on ur definition of a colony

Reading the Pangkor Treaty where Raja Abdullah was acknowledged as the legitimate Sultan to replace Sultan Ismail and the Sultan would receive a British Resident whose advice had to be sought in all matters except those pertaining to the religion and customs of the Malays. We were never legally a British colony

But we did surrender most of our sovereignty. That too can be said to be colonization.

It is not clear cut, black and white..
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You are right


We should stop celebrating 31 Aug and just celebrate 16 September cos Malaya was never colonislised by Britain.

Also no point being part of Commonwealth.
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post Apr 16 2015, 02:04 PM

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true

that time they worked for British

Khoo Kay Kim is just one boot licker
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post Apr 16 2015, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Apr 16 2015, 02:01 PM)
You are right
We should stop celebrating 31 Aug and just celebrate 16 September cos Malaya was never colonislised by Britain.

Also no point being part of Commonwealth.
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Means 31 Aug Merdeka Day never happen coz never dijajah?


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post Apr 16 2015, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(rolling2014 @ Apr 16 2015, 01:56 PM)
Dinaung or dijajah. I would say both interpretations are accurate depending on ur definition of a colony

Reading the Pangkor Treaty where Raja Abdullah was acknowledged as the legitimate Sultan to replace Sultan Ismail and the Sultan would receive a British Resident whose advice had to be sought in all matters except those pertaining to the religion and customs of the Malays. We were never legally a British colony

But we did agree to listen to what the British said lest they might invade us or stand by as other empires do. That too can be said to be colonization.

It is not clear cut, black and white..
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Maybe before 1948, we can consider us as dinaung and not dijajah. But with the establishment of Federation of Malaya in 1948 to replace Malayan Union, we cannot deny we officially become a British colony.

Like what Rachel is saying, the matter is an academic issue and should be discussed in our classroom instead of courtroom.
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post Apr 16 2015, 02:10 PM

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soon we'll gonna rewrite our history for 1mdb
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post Apr 16 2015, 02:11 PM

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vavi betol lah...yg quote tu tak tahu guna spoiled ka!!!!
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post Apr 16 2015, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ Apr 16 2015, 01:10 PM)
If we never being colonized by the British, then what do we call Dato' Bahaman, Mat Kilau, Tok Janggut etc? Are they heroes who fought against the British colonialization, or are they a traitors who fought against the Sultans.
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If meleis, its hero

If komunis or pendatang, traitors

Jangan persoal yo!
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post Apr 16 2015, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Apr 16 2015, 02:01 PM)
You are right
We should stop celebrating 31 Aug and just celebrate 16 September cos Malaya was never colonislised by Britain.

Also no point being part of Commonwealth.
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Independence need not necessarily be from a colony to an independent state.

It can also be from a protectorate to an full sovereign state.



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