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Open letter to Khoo Kay Kim – Rachel Leow, Long - TLDR types, please go away News
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oucheev
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Apr 16 2015, 02:09 PM
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QUOTE(rolling2014 @ Apr 16 2015, 01:56 PM) Dinaung or dijajah. I would say both interpretations are accurate depending on ur definition of a colony Reading the Pangkor Treaty where Raja Abdullah was acknowledged as the legitimate Sultan to replace Sultan Ismail and the Sultan would receive a British Resident whose advice had to be sought in all matters except those pertaining to the religion and customs of the Malays. We were never legally a British colony But we did agree to listen to what the British said lest they might invade us or stand by as other empires do. That too can be said to be colonization. It is not clear cut, black and white.. Maybe before 1948, we can consider us as dinaung and not dijajah. But with the establishment of Federation of Malaya in 1948 to replace Malayan Union, we cannot deny we officially become a British colony. Like what Rachel is saying, the matter is an academic issue and should be discussed in our classroom instead of courtroom.
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oucheev
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Apr 16 2015, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE(rolling2014 @ Apr 16 2015, 02:27 PM) That is also debatable. Federation of Malaya is still legally a protectorate. And one can say British is losing influence as the people are asserting our desire for full sovereignty (eg move for independence) Actually the court have Khoo Kay Kim to share his expert view on a matter that is not as black and white as rachel put it. It is not like he filed a suit against Mat Sabu Yes, it's debatable but if you say Malaya was never a colony, why do we need to get Britain's approval for our independence?
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oucheev
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Apr 16 2015, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE(rolling2014 @ Apr 16 2015, 04:04 PM) but thats not his fault the law punish ppl for belittling brutally murdered cops as lackeys He was simply asked to give an expert opinion in court on history... and tats what he did.. his view we were not a colony but a protectorate. Tats not perversion of history IMO because as I wrote both views are accurate depending on ur definitions of colony.. Well what Mat Sabu say is technically not wrong too. If you consider the communist as freedom fighter, what they are doing is not wrong. Remember it's 1950 and we are still under British rule. Communist were just a bunch of people who fought based on what they think was right at that time. Their tactics might be wrong and method brutal but we should discuss this matter with an open mind. It's already part of our country history and we must acknowledge their contribution too.
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oucheev
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Apr 17 2015, 08:23 AM
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QUOTE(rolling2014 @ Apr 16 2015, 05:41 PM) Not legally a colony =/= full sovereignty as a protectorate,we listened to what big brother say but we regained our full sovereignty from the brits at independence. some might argue tat already means we r colony.. but as I said both opinions are accurate depending on ur definition of colony. They may be freedom fighters but they killed civilians and police personnel who was just keeping the peace (ie not fighting communists). So hard to see them as national heros in the same way as tunku abd rahman.. tats how i see it.. Well most freedom fighters were terrorist when they started except for Ghandi. I am not asking us to make them heroes of the country but we should at least acknowledge their contribution our country's history. The problem today with our sejarah books are they don't tell the other side story. Why did they started the rebellion? Why did they join communist? Are they all purely evil man like what is being taught?
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