Can I know the price for Butterfly Hinoki 5 layer one? I heart lanatir said it's good ^^
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 Oct 26 2008, 12:32 PM
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Oct 26 2008, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE(chrisling @ Oct 26 2008, 12:32 PM) Can I know the price for Butterfly Hinoki 5 layer one? I heart lanatir said it's good ^^ RM147, but it is handshake type. not penhold. so.... u handshake?? |
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Oct 26 2008, 03:31 PM
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full, do you have butterfly Takifire C (Soft)?
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Oct 28 2008, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE(chrisling @ Oct 26 2008, 12:32 PM) Can I know the price for Butterfly Hinoki 5 layer one? I heart lanatir said it's good ^^ there's 2 versions of this one.one is Bty Kiso Hinoki V and the other is All Hinoki 5 the latter is the newer version to replace the former (iirc) |
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Oct 28 2008, 08:22 PM
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QUOTE(keyser soze @ Oct 24 2008, 12:58 AM) Just checked my bat. I think the blade is still ok (at least it is still in one piece). About the rubber, can't really tell until I use it. If really start playing again, I think need to change. Thinking about Tackifire C Soft Rubber. Anyone have experience about it? But first really need to find a place and someone to play with. Chrisling can join you or not? QUOTE(full @ Oct 24 2008, 09:27 AM) hello... i used tackifire C (soft) before, but it does not really soft. in fact in is quite hard. i means the sponge. harder than tackifire special (soft). but tackifire special (soft)'s hardness is still acceptable, at least foe me. erm... tackifire c is really very very tacky, and its control is very good. it can produce lower and shorter balls when you returning the balls. well said. you good at spins as well? by the way, its super tacky surface allows you to make better spinning for the balls!!  you will have feeling like china rubber as mos of them are tacky one.  i think that sponge is not high tension sponge, so that you need to use your own strength. and required your wrist and waist's strength at the same time.. if you used to hard sponge rubber, this is surely an excellent rubber for you. |
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 Oct 28 2008, 10:39 PM
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i like spin, but not really good. play fro fun only
 i try to spin the balls, and at the same time "bring forward" the balls together to make it faster... but fail... only know the way to make it, but i couldn't make it... paiseh paiseh.... so, anyone pls teach me, how to speed up the balls?? **when i spin the ball, it usually goes spiny, but slow and a bit high.... how to make it faster??  |
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Oct 29 2008, 02:30 AM
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hey full even if some one answer/teach you here still wont do.
go join people play. ask them to show you how. wow this thread really alive. i believe you guys played few times already rite? just read on page 44, so did you guys play at "prima setapak"? really want to join you guys. maybe in December (hope you guys still play) *btw i'm beginner only. always on/off can never improve... huhu |
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Oct 29 2008, 08:53 AM
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I play at Prima Setapak Condo quite often. But because of bad bat I usually play badminton and swimming only nowadays.
As what I had mentioned before, if you guys have interest, I can book the court and have fun together  |
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Oct 29 2008, 09:26 AM
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QUOTE(chrisling @ Oct 29 2008, 08:53 AM) I play at Prima Setapak Condo quite often. But because of bad bat I usually play badminton and swimming only nowadays. wah why u keep blaming your bat leh... that's why i tell u to go buy a bat suited for u then u can stop complaining abt the bat and start playing! As what I had mentioned before, if you guys have interest, I can book the court and have fun together  |
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Oct 29 2008, 10:19 AM
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Haha, this month and next month I'll be short of money...Bought something...
I still remember, last time I bought a RM 10+ bat, even better than this!! And bought Champion branded bat, cost not more than RM5 last time, BETTER than this man. That's why, I want blame this stupid bat, omg cost me RM50+, it's sucks!!! |
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Oct 29 2008, 10:55 AM
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heh?? but those bat, normally cant gv you what u want i think.... consider to invest in a better n suit for your style one... although cost around RM100-150, worth the money man. these kind of bat can tahan very long... no "accident", can tahan many many years de leh... hehehe
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Oct 29 2008, 12:22 PM
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Ya, there is HUGE different with those sucks bat and good bat...I used my uncle's branded bat, high spin etc can make pretty smoothly. I know the theory as well, but I can't do much with my financial condition now...So I need to borrow someone's else bat, hehehee...
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Oct 29 2008, 03:47 PM
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r u penhold? coz u din reply mel ast time.. so, i donno lo. i hv an extra penhold blade, if you r penhold then ngam lo.... i can lend it to you play first, can return me when u find a new one... it is a carbon blade, i'm not suit, so din use at all.... (it is my father's blade actually) heheh
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Oct 29 2008, 04:10 PM
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I'm handshake user
 So sad. By the way, I don't like carbon blade also. I love spin, rather than fast attack with less power ball. I love to see people block my high spin ball and the ball reflects to other way instead of they stunned there because of high speed ball. Hehehe... |
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Oct 29 2008, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE(full @ Oct 28 2008, 10:39 PM) i like spin, but not really good. play fro fun only adding more spin into it with faster slice? i try to spin the balls, and at the same time "bring forward" the balls together to make it faster... but fail... only know the way to make it, but i couldn't make it... paiseh paiseh.... so, anyone pls teach me, how to speed up the balls?? **when i spin the ball, it usually goes spiny, but slow and a bit high.... how to make it faster?? |
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Oct 29 2008, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Oct 29 2008, 05:02 PM) adding more spin into it with faster slice? speed is normally achieved via a few factors. not only the choice of rubber and blade is important, it is also technique. it is important to not only employ the correct arm swing but also put your waist into it with the correct stance especially crucial with topspin balls during drives and loops. |
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Oct 29 2008, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE(lanatir @ Oct 29 2008, 05:10 PM) speed is normally achieved via a few factors. not only the choice of rubber and blade is important, it is also technique. it is important to not only employ the correct arm swing but also put your waist into it with the correct stance especially crucial with topspin balls during drives and loops. blade not for smashes only ah?Added on October 29, 2008, 5:16 pm QUOTE(lanatir @ Oct 29 2008, 05:10 PM) speed is normally achieved via a few factors. not only the choice of rubber and blade is important, it is also technique. it is important to not only employ the correct arm swing but also put your waist into it with the correct stance especially crucial with topspin balls during drives and loops. blade not for smashes only ah?This post has been edited by Darkmage12: Oct 29 2008, 05:16 PM |
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Oct 29 2008, 06:05 PM
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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Oct 29 2008, 05:16 PM) blade not for smashes only ah? are u asking if the choice of blade only affects smashes? if that's the case then the answer is no. the choice of blade decides on rebound and dwell time as we have discussed earlier. this also contributes to the speed of the ball. also the point of contact will help with speed especially on the sweet spot of any blade.Added on October 29, 2008, 5:16 pm blade not for smashes only ah? |
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Oct 29 2008, 06:16 PM
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one more thing, the composition of the blade is only taken into account in strokes where the ball presses against the sponge enough for it to 'hit' the blade. if your stroke only grazes the ball at a certain angle and the sponge is hard enough to prevent the ball from hitting the blade, then the composition of the blade is not much of a factor
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Oct 29 2008, 07:30 PM
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oh...... nice ncie
erm... i hit the ball during the highest point (normally), and usually hit the sweetspot. erm.... my problem is my arm... too stiff!!! haih.... play like a robot, that's always air ball... hehe.... erm.... I'm pendholder, using Cypress S with tackifire special (soft). the blade is powerful, fast speed, soft feeling and good control... i tried Donic F1 b4, balls become spiny and fast!!! but less in control.. now tackifire special (soft), good control, spiny, but very slow........... advice pls..  |
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