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Armesh
post Apr 15 2015, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(speedylnw @ Apr 14 2015, 11:33 AM)
Hi guys.

Been wanting to start to get in shape. So I came across this calisthenic street workout kind of training and feel like want to try it.
Anyone here do calisthenic workout? Can share your experience here? How is it in terms of effectiveness in getting in shape?

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post Apr 15 2015, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(kuance @ Apr 15 2015, 05:18 PM)
Hi degraw1993, not to be rude calling people noon here but before you understand anything well, don't jump into conclusion that what you know is the best option yet. Basically if you are telling me push up don't build mass in the chest and things are gotten into the endurance side of the story, then youre wrong and you so not have enough knowledge in this.

Calisthenics is somewhat basic from the surface but did you look into advance calisthenics? If you are talking about mass, calisthenics can give you mass depend on how you train it. Don't jump into your own theory saying that calisthenics = rep maniac. We do rep and set but at the same times we do skill works and body balance. Which is a whole body control kinda workout.

Maybe I should ask you a question, do you have any idea what is with the word "muscle"? How do you define muscle? So what you mean is Dwayne Johnson have muscle while Bruce Lee have no muscle? For your information, Bruce Lee don't lift weights and he perform only body weight training. His quote " be water" is not asking you to be water. Is asking you to adapt on whatever environment we put you in. So both Dwayne Johnson and bruce Lee have muscle but diff category. Yet if we back to the Rome era. The Greek. Do you think they have weight to make them get ripped like that?

So next time if you giving your 20 cent here, try to understand and read more before giving people your "final" answer.
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Lel so much noob again. Do you even read what he's asking? Do you know what i'm talking about? If not then stfu maybe you don't even lift and don't have any "muscle"
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QUOTE(degraw1993 @ Apr 15 2015, 07:57 PM)
Wow and yet another noob and perhaps who don't even lift. Btw it's not weight lifting it's called BODYBUILDING. Next time do you research first. Maybe your diet fucked up and you routine sucks and you don't even make any gains

Who says you want to bigger you need move bigger weights? Lel so much bro science and i bet you heard those brothers at those ghetto gym who'd look fat as fuck
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post Apr 15 2015, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(-ccy- @ Apr 15 2015, 09:47 PM)
Next time you want to post something, learn your manners first. If you just feel like insulting others, you might as well don't post. kthxbye.
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post Apr 15 2015, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(speedylnw @ Apr 15 2015, 05:13 PM)
Wao really good explanation into the concept of body weight training. Thanks so much. Also thanks for @degraw1993 input.
Mr. @dharmabums, I have a question. For example me currently hardly even do one pull up. Im really down because of this.
Can you help suggest how to slowly train to be able to do pull up? Thanks very much
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I would say that one of the hardest thing when it comes to doing a pull up for the first time is tha ability to just keep your body hanging up one the bar. As this is a body weight exercise which that need a person to support their entire body, over weight people may find it hard to hold on for long periods. There are a few steps that you may need to build on before progressing towards a proper pull up.

First of would be for you to build up strength in your biceps and shoulders. Google australian pull ups, its also known as horizontal pull ups. It will also help to do some dead hangs, as you need to get used to hold your weight on a bar. How long till you're able to do a pull up will depend on your fitness level. Everyone is different, remember that. Some people take a longer time to master the pull up, some incredibly fast. So don't worry about if your progression is slow.

There is a philosophy in calisthenics where trainees should be doing their progressions slowly this is because they're not just build strenght and muscles but also doing 'strength conditioning'. It's not just muscle fibres that are important but also your tendons and ligament. (Tendons connect your muscle to your bone, while ligaments conect bone to bone) these unfortunately don't heal as easily as muscle fibres. A lot ofcalisthenics moves usually start with static holds which build up your initial endurance as a prepatory step before leading to harder moves. Trust me, you do not want to tear off a tendon.

Another good way to to prepare yourself for a pull up is to do negatives. Jump up on the bar until your chin is above the bar, then let your self down slowly. The slower you go the harder it get.
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QUOTE(degraw1993 @ Apr 15 2015, 07:57 PM)
Wow and yet another noob and perhaps who don't even lift. Btw it's not weight lifting it's called BODYBUILDING. Next time do you research first. Maybe your diet fucked up and you routine sucks and you don't even make any gains

Who says you want to bigger you need move bigger weights? Lel so much bro science and i bet you heard those brothers at those ghetto gym who'd look fat as fuck
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Wow. You're so good man. In your earlier post you said you need weights to build muscle. Now u say don't need weights to get bigger. thumbup.gif
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post Apr 16 2015, 10:50 AM

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degraw1993 If you are going to give advise give it correctly without insulting people, shouting down from the top of the mountain with your throne doesn't help.

If I see you insulting people again or report, ill be sending you to a nice vacation.
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post Apr 16 2015, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(Armesh @ Apr 15 2015, 07:39 PM)

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Hahaha.. before u post that video, why don't you look at the like and dislike vote for that video? see how majority disagree? LOL
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post Apr 16 2015, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(IccyAsd @ Apr 16 2015, 10:50 AM)
degraw1993 If you are going to give advise give it correctly without insulting people, shouting down from the top of the mountain with your throne doesn't help.

If I see you insulting people again or report, ill be sending you to a nice vacation.
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Thanks MOD for that warning. I like to see that how he try to defend his own theory but at the same time breaking it.

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post Apr 16 2015, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(kuance @ Apr 16 2015, 12:58 PM)
Hahaha.. before u post that video, why don't you look at the like and dislike vote for that video? see how majority disagree? LOL
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1. Dude really knows his stuff, tracks his macros, eats in a surplus, gets his protein and all. He does things 99% right compared to the average eat clean bro split gym noob.

2. He did calisthenics for 2 years probably with very good nutrition due to point 1.

3. If you made a video saying Lazar Angelov takes steroids, Lazar Angelov training won't ever give you his body, and show people true genetic max and how much insane hard work (cooking, calorie tracking, programming) it takes....... how much dislikes the video will get?
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QUOTE(Armesh @ Apr 16 2015, 01:04 PM)
1. Dude really knows his stuff, tracks his macros, eats in a surplus, gets his protein and all. He does things 99% right compared to the average eat clean bro split gym noob.

2. He did calisthenics for 2 years probably with very good nutrition due to point 1.

3. If you made a video saying Lazar Angelov takes steroids, Lazar Angelov training won't ever give you his body, and show people true genetic max and how much insane hard work (cooking, calorie tracking, programming) it takes....... how much dislikes the video will get?
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+1000000 .SPOT. ON rclxms.gif

Btw, "Likes" and "dislikes" doesn't conclude that the information delivered by the Youtuber is incorrect. It's just ignorant people who dislike facts that contradicts with their believes.

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QUOTE(dharmabums @ Apr 15 2015, 10:18 PM)
I would say that one of the hardest thing when it comes to doing a pull up for the first time is tha ability to just keep your body hanging up one the bar. As this is a body weight exercise which that need a person to support their entire body, over weight people may find it hard to hold on for long periods. There are a few steps that you may need to build on before progressing towards a proper pull up.

First of would be for you to build up strength in your biceps and shoulders. Google australian pull ups, its also known as horizontal pull ups. It will also help to do some dead hangs, as you need to get used to hold your weight on a bar. How long till you're able to do a pull up will depend on your fitness level. Everyone is different, remember that. Some people take a longer time to master the pull up, some incredibly fast. So don't worry about if your progression is slow.

There is a philosophy in calisthenics where trainees should be doing their progressions slowly this is because they're not just build strenght and muscles but also doing 'strength conditioning'. It's not just muscle fibres that are important but also your tendons and ligament. (Tendons connect your muscle to your bone, while ligaments conect bone to bone) these unfortunately don't heal as easily as muscle fibres. A lot ofcalisthenics moves usually start with static holds which build up your initial endurance as a prepatory step before leading to harder moves. Trust me, you do not want to tear off a tendon.

Another good way to to prepare yourself for a pull up is to do negatives. Jump up on the bar until your chin is above the bar, then let your self down slowly. The slower you go the harder it get.
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QUOTE(Armesh @ Apr 15 2015, 07:39 PM)

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Haha, his calisthenics body is bigger than most guys lifting weights in gym that I've seen laugh.gif

QUOTE(kuance @ Apr 16 2015, 12:58 PM)
Hahaha.. before u post that video, why don't you look at the like and dislike vote for that video? see how majority disagree? LOL
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Number of dislikes doesn't mean he's wrong though. He's a very experienced and skilled in calisthenics so.. I believe his words hold some water.

But that doesn't mean Calisthenics is bad. It's not bad in any way. It's great and I really respect those who do it very well. Their bodies are great in my opinion, lean. He's just saying that to build big muscles then weight lifting is the better option.

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post Oct 5 2015, 12:25 PM

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Do you know where I can get myself trained?
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Unfortunately most guys DIY. Try google progressive calisthenics and learn about it. Protip: don't randomly pick a workout routine from the internet without understanding what you'll get from it and how it'll effect your goals.
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post Oct 7 2015, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(zeus2005 @ Oct 6 2015, 03:49 PM)
TS,

I practice and learn calisthenic for almost 10 months and yes of course you can see the results.

Basically calisthenic does not really build big muscle like those pro bodybuilder but it does helps you in getting shape or lean they called it but if you did control/monitor your diet then your muscle will look toned. You can google 'Frank Medrano' and you will what I meant. Another thing is you can look for a book called Convict Conditioning by Paul Wade.

I choose calisthenic due to it is almost free and not much money/equipment involved plus you can do it anywhere,anytime.
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I am losing weight faster doing calisthenics. I wonder whether I am losing muscle mass. I am eating more but my stomach cannot take much more than usual.


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post Oct 7 2015, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(dharmabums @ Oct 5 2015, 12:25 PM)
Unfortunately most guys DIY. Try google progressive calisthenics and learn about it. Protip: don't randomly pick a workout routine from the internet without understanding what you'll get from it and how it'll effect your goals.
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My workouts to press up, pull up, chin up, inverted rows, hanging leg raise, dragonfly, full bridge, dips, squats and pole climbs.

My target is to do a muscle up.

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post Oct 7 2015, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(New Klang @ Oct 7 2015, 09:07 PM)
My workouts to press up, pull up, chin up, inverted rows, hanging leg raise, dragonfly, full bridge, dips, squats and pole climbs.

My target is to do a muscle up.
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It'll be hard for anyone to judge what workout is right for you because we don't know what your fitness level. For each exercise that you listed down there are so many easier / harder variations, some working different sets of muscle too.

If you want to be able to perform a muscle up, Which method are you aiming for? explosive muscle ups (mostly seen in crossfit where they kip) or slow strict muscle ups?
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post Oct 19 2015, 09:52 PM

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Managed to improve but progress not as expected. Lots of balancing and stabilising of the body. Skills need time to master. Enjoying the moments now.
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post Oct 20 2015, 07:06 AM

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Honestly you guys if don't wanna go gym, just buy a pull-ups/dip station, dipping belt, and 60kg worth of weights.

Do weighted pull-ups and dips for 3 years and you'll be jacked as fuck.

Fck all this bodyweight calisthenics crap.

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