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 Calisthenic Body Weight Workout, Anybody here do calisthenic training?

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kuance
post Apr 15 2015, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(degraw1993 @ Apr 15 2015, 04:38 PM)
LOL i just make it simple. Can you build chest with just push ups? Yes you can but you're building more endurance it means eventually your body will adapt to it.
So in order to build muscle or hypertrophy you need to load up the weights that's when you stimulate the muscle.
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Hi degraw1993, not to be rude calling people noon here but before you understand anything well, don't jump into conclusion that what you know is the best option yet. Basically if you are telling me push up don't build mass in the chest and things are gotten into the endurance side of the story, then youre wrong and you so not have enough knowledge in this.

Calisthenics is somewhat basic from the surface but did you look into advance calisthenics? If you are talking about mass, calisthenics can give you mass depend on how you train it. Don't jump into your own theory saying that calisthenics = rep maniac. We do rep and set but at the same times we do skill works and body balance. Which is a whole body control kinda workout.

Maybe I should ask you a question, do you have any idea what is with the word "muscle"? How do you define muscle? So what you mean is Dwayne Johnson have muscle while Bruce Lee have no muscle? For your information, Bruce Lee don't lift weights and he perform only body weight training. His quote " be water" is not asking you to be water. Is asking you to adapt on whatever environment we put you in. So both Dwayne Johnson and bruce Lee have muscle but diff category. Yet if we back to the Rome era. The Greek. Do you think they have weight to make them get ripped like that?

So next time if you giving your 20 cent here, try to understand and read more before giving people your "final" answer.
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post Apr 15 2015, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(dharmabums @ Apr 15 2015, 05:06 PM)
Terima kasih for your explanation though simple one, i can finally understand why you say that. From your statement you assume that by doing push up you won't get progressive overload a because as you say your body will adapt to it. The principle of strength of course that to be stronger you need to apply more resistance which is what you implied, which is true. Before i take things further lets explore the concepts of  strength:

Strength can be defined as the ability to create force to counter act/overwhelm an opposing force or resistance. Simple. So to have more strength you would need to increase either; Intesity, volume or frequency. That's the basic concept of it... so lets try an experiment:

Hold out your fist straight out in front of you at shoulder height and hold it there (the concept of equilibrium) . Not to hard is it, so let's apply the principle of Intensity, volume & frequency. Grab a light dumbell say 4kgs... nothing to hard and hold it back out in front of you. Obviously it'll harder to hold then before. This shows that by adding volume this gets harder, as you say progressive overload.

Let's try something else; with the same dumbell take out the weights of one side  and put attach it to one end. So the dumbell will have both 2kg plates on one side of the dumb bell then hold the dumb bell by the empty side and lift it up shoulder length again, you'll notice that the intensity has changed even though you're still holding the same 4kg weights. What has happened is that the leverage for the dumb bell has changed making it harder hence more strength is needed.

Now because of the nature of body weight training, where the weight of the trainee remain fixed the only way to increase intensity is to... LEVERAGE ON YOUR BODY! So obviously working the same move will not provide an increase of strength, as you said. So how does one make things harder? By leveraging your body to make things harder hence a progression. (Also, did you know there are harder variations of the push up? For example; diamond push ups, uneven push ups... smile.gif )

I would love to explain more but i'm running late... hope it helps.
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Hi there, thanks for explaining things in such a detail write up. I like your explanation and I 100% agree on what you say. In conventional gym, people apply progressive overload vastly, if not overwhelmingly. So they don't get the idea of LEVERAGE OF BODYWEIGHT.

Maybe another example is by taking a skill works in calisthenics. Let's just take planche as an example. When we performing planche, we basically use up all our muscle and joint on our body. The progression is at first, we do the TUCK PLANCHE. Then after that we improve progression by leveraging the angle of the force of our joint and the gravity, we next move into STRADDLE PLANCHE, and finally we have the complete FULL PLANCHE. all this progression is what we refer to LEVERAGING OF BODY.

Just in case if someone else so not understand the theory. Search it out before flaming into bad conclusion. smile.gif have a nice day and get fit dude!
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post Apr 16 2015, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(Armesh @ Apr 15 2015, 07:39 PM)

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Hahaha.. before u post that video, why don't you look at the like and dislike vote for that video? see how majority disagree? LOL
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post Apr 16 2015, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(IccyAsd @ Apr 16 2015, 10:50 AM)
degraw1993 If you are going to give advise give it correctly without insulting people, shouting down from the top of the mountain with your throne doesn't help.

If I see you insulting people again or report, ill be sending you to a nice vacation.
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Thanks MOD for that warning. I like to see that how he try to defend his own theory but at the same time breaking it.

Cheers.

 

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