Hi. Did a search for crafting thread. There is one but last reply was 2 years ago and no longer active. I hope its allright to start a fresh thread. Just want to contribute to the crafting community. If no, then the taikos here please just let me know.

Final Fantasy A Realm Reborn has a unique crafting system that we seldom see in majority MMO titles we played before. Some of us started off with a random crafter class, with just a simple crafting window with durability and quality number. We never tot what started out as a simple craft, can lead to other more exciting crafting items and mechanism that we can use or sell in the market board. With every patch there are more and more 2, 3 and 4 star items being added. New glamour, new armor, new weapon, accessory, furnitures and so forth. And the recipe will be more complicated when Heavensward is released.

Im not good in writing good opening, but hope can see some positive discussion btw the discipline of hand on the current patch, DOH tips that you want to share, how RNGesus destroy or make you rich (lol..), market experience that you have encountered, or your personal experience in crafting in FF ARR. It would be great to have a place to chit chat those market board and economy experience and give new breath to the crafting world in FF ARR.

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Any active crafters out there? Regardless of 2 or 4 star. Maybe to get the ball rolling, you can share a little details of your crafting experience, regardless of entry crafter or end game crafter. Or how long have you been in the crafting side of ARR. Im seeing more and more new crafters name in MB in my world lately. DOH seems to be popular thing for new players. Market board is like stock market everyday.

This post has been edited by Poodlepaddly: Mar 23 2015, 07:15 PM

I'm new to amorer is there any good advice?

get armorer to lvl 50 first...infact get all doh to lvl 50 before you focus on higher lvl recipe

here a few tips
never be stingy to spend money on better gear since crafting always give more gil

never underestimate the income of culinary and alchemist (as long more than half material you can farm)

to get artisan gear(ilvl70), use culinary since it easiest and cheapest to craft (spicy tomato relish)

use macro.....and name it.....and make sure you remember what that macro for (i make a few mistake)

Ixal daily, remember which item need turn in then craft the hell out of it (especially heavy steel jig need to catch gigant clamp.....people lazy to craft you know)

never sell too much, someone 100% will undercut even you put price same as other player

pls lvl your gsm desyn to save gil and make more gil (dol/doh ilvl 55 got very stable price: 50k~60k since the end of 2.3 and master demi is good side income)

Heres some random 2 gil for armorer. Anyone else have other please do help to add..

Leveling 1 - 50
Do those ingot items that u can buy mats and spam under quick synthesis. Ranging from Iron ingot, steel ingot, etc till cobalt ingot. Lvl 1 - 30 you can try spam quick synthesis for afk lvling. Assuming u already have the cash to buy those relatively cheap mats. Lvl 30 onwards u can try spam leve for quick exp boost. Lvl 30 leve is on costa de sol, lvl 35 is in coerthas highland South, and lvl 40 in coerthas highland, west. Getting to lvl 50 shouldn't be much issue. And you are probably a new lvl 50 armorer already.

Note: Most armorer crafting materials are related to blacksmith. Example 3 star armorer recipe uses wolf ingot (crafted by blacksmith) or 4 star armor recipes using woots ingot (crafted by Blacksmith). So if you want to focus on armorer to craft armors and gears, BSM is the secondary class you should consider.

Once you reach lvl 50, your next goal will be on upgrading your crafter gears and open your door to master crafting. I am not sure what is your current progression on armorer. But if you just reach lvl 50, focusing on getting the gears first (head, body, gloves, belt, legs, feet, offhand etc etc). Either you want to do i55 crafter gears or get straight the i70 artisan gears. Your goal is to reach a minimum 451 craftmanship and 407 control to enter the 4 star crafting arena. All this depends on your gil on hand budget or if you have friends/fc ready to support you etc. Supra and Lucis main hand is something you need to consider, if you plan to focus on a DOH class in the long run..Let me know if you want me to detail out the route to get lucis.

Engaging market board - Armorer
Armorer main source of gil income is as the class says, making armors. atm 2 star armor (i70) are really not in demand as its easier to skip those lvl in our current patch. There is relatively low demand now for i90 wolfframe armors (depends of world), but still a good demand for woots armor. Depending on your curremt DOH gears (minimum 451 craftsmanship and 407 control for 4*) If you have the gears and tools, go straight to 4 star and work on the i110 woots armor now. Armorer opens your door to crafting armors mostly for Dragoon, tanker class. Tank armor usually sells faster (depends on world) I do not have my ps4 to check the name list now, but in general tank helm, chest, gloves, feet etc sells pretty fast in my world. The cost for allagan woot and woots ore should be cheap to buy and convert to finish goods to be sold in MB.

good thread

Thanks Shojikun.. I remember I pm you a year ago on how to start FF ARR. How time flies, one year already. lol. I believe you are in Masamune legacy world since the beginning right? Too bad we are in different world. But am glad we are able to discuss here even though there is a world barrier.

This post has been edited by Poodlepaddly: Mar 24 2015, 07:54 AM

Finally manage to get all my crafter to 50 and equip them with i70 artisan gear, melded rings, haven't meld bracelet, chocker and earring though. Only CUL have artisan main-hand, haven't get the artisan main-hand for the rest.

For anyone leveling crafter I would suggest that you level all of them at the same pace, due to the cross class skills you will need to make crafting so much easier at higher level.

I did mostly GC turn-ins and Ixal dailies to level my crafting, so it did take quite a while to level them up. It can be speed up by doing Leve turn-ins, there are guide on reddit for it but it's quite costly unless you craft those HQ turn-ins yourself.

When leveling crafters always be prepare to spend gil, quite a lot of it too lol.

Now working on getting demimateria books, and the other master recipe books, leveling desynth. It's seriously harder than end-game raid lol

I have all crafts at 4 star level. Feel free to ask me questions on progression after 2 star tier.

Which master recipe books and master demimateria books are worth getting?

Currently I have the master book 1 for CUL, master demimateria for GSM

For masterbook tier 1, atm not much worth probably since no demand for i90 gear. You will still need to get all of them if you want to progress to tier ii.

If you plan to craft 3 star items, it's prudent to start with ALC due to the dependency on Terminus Putty for a lot of the 3 star and demimateria recipes. After that get whatever you like better.

Im not sure how Tonberry prices are right now, but unlocking all tier 1 masterbooks would cost around 300 to 400k on Masamune for the raw mats.

Master demimateria is actually kinda very niche and only worth getting if you want to make the primal weapons or the augmented armor. If you have GSM desynth at 70+ then just keep desynthing cheap i30-i49 accessories for the demimateria to unlock the books if market price is too high.

Hmm haven't really check the prices for all the raw mats but I think it's not to expensive, I did bought some gold ore to make rose gold nugget to craft accessories

Yeah that's what I notice on the demimateria book, it's mostly primal weapon, GSM one have accessories for crafting so I got that first, but the other doesn't seems as useful. My GSM desynth is at around 69 I think, desynth bunch of accessories for fieldcraft demi I, got like 70+ now haha, now gonna need some battle demi.

This reminded me that LTW also has the new i55 DoL gear so you can get that first and sell the DoL gear to recoup some cost. But check the margins first. On Masamune the cost to make and MB price is the same.... orz

Hmm ok thanks will check that. Yeah I am actually looking for stuff I can craft and sell and since I am still leveling gatherers I have to buy most of the mats from MB. Need to make sure I can at least make some profit.

It's the same on Tonberry for certain things, the margin is pretty low, so I have to check carefully if not might end up losing gil instead.

Haha true. Margin has been a concern since patch 2.5. Undercuting is nothing new to the crafter's world. But it has gone so intense lately that ppl are undercutting to below COGS. Example It cost 600k to make something. After all the undercut it sells for 680k. Minus 5% tax that's 646k only. Lot of work to prepare the premats for crafting those 4 star like Artisan Apron, Ebony bow, Platinum accessory just to earn 30-50k (situation depends on world) I believe its safe to say that market board is like a PVP arena everyday in all server.

The grind for ehcati sealant... that same turn in quest over and over again everyday.. I rather just drop the profit margin and buy straight from daily sellers. Assuming you don't have the spare time to run the 6 Ehcati quest everyday. Damn ehcati, lol.

Hmm maybe crafting HQ stuff for leve turn-ins would have better profit haha

It seems like those high level craft are profitable when they are new, after a while it get less profitable.

I'm still doing ixal dailies because the oakknots can be used as a store of value for the 2-star and 3-star crafting mats. Sealant market is kinda gg now so dont even bother entering really.

4 star market is pretty dead now since its been 6months since it came out and most ppl are i130. You just get ppl who randomly buy for glamour.

Not impossible to find gil but its definitely hard with the current situation of the game. I suppose levelling gear(10 to 50) can sell well, I did randomly make garnet stuff and it sold out in 2 days.

Yeah crafting always kinda go dead at end of patch cycle lol, ah well I just wanted to level them all and get gears, got a few more months before expansion so should be able to gear them all up.

I do Ixal dailies also and keeping all the oakknots that I get, use to exchange for sealants and sell but the market tank, it's less than half the price it use to sell now.

Yeah still can make gil maybe not as big and quick as before, just need to research and see what sell quick with good margins.

Haha. Guess we are encountering the same crafter situation. Its been 6 months since 2.5 is release, and another 3 months till heavensward is launched. At the moment artisan forager, i110 armor/weapon, acc, even down to furnitures's profit are not so attractive anymore. Worst when RNGesus fails you with 8 failed hasty touch, and all your ehcati or Battelcraft Demimateria becomes a NQ item.

I did most of the DOH except culinary. IDK, just not my calling. lol. Maybe time to tutup kedai and go open a restaurant selling raid food... Looking at the trend many ppl trying to tackle end game raid more nowadays. Maybe can capitalize on that trend.

Anyway, did you guys realize in Heavensward, all DOH class get their own crafter gears? This means artisan's lifespan is only till end of 2.51 perhaps. I predict the demand for artisan/forager will drop further as we come closer to Heavensward. This will also affect the ehcati's market. What do you think?

Since FCOB going to be on DF maybe food/pots will see decent sales as more people go into FCOB.

That's the reason I got all the i70 Artisan gear now, except all the main-hand, so that when 3.0 comes my crafters are decently gear for 3.0 crafting

As for the crafted Artisan yeah definitely will drop price, ehcati market already drop a lot.

Maybe a good time to go sapu all the cheap mats like cashmere, sauron, scheelite, raziqsand or petrified log. During launch it was like 150k each. now 20g, 18g for petrified log and 800 for cashmere..

Gamble. who know one day suddenly cashmere naik demand naik harge sell 80k. If cannot... then 800g x 100 = 80k gil use go make cashmere cloth donate to orphans in ARR.

i request this topic to be pinned ;D

Oh wow. Its pinned. Thanks shojikun. And the fellow mod who did it

Can already see some active crafters here who are willing to share ideas and dilemma what to craft nowadays. lol. Nasib baik ARR tarak GST... Already so low margin. If not existing 5% + 6%.... how to survive

Anyway my culinary is the only up to 3 star only. Used to do Button in a blanket and devilegg but stopped there to focus on other 4* DOH. Any reco for good and fast moving 4 star culinary food please? I assume Tank class food sell faster than DPS maybe? Any top chef here please share some insight.

Are you kidding me.... ARR always had permanent 5% GST since launch.

Just a joke brah. Although maybe the right way of saying it should be



Anyway lets not go there further. Got lots of angry mobs on this issue lately. lol

Tips for new crafter when buying DOH materials in MB: When buying from market board, check the city of the retainer. If you buy the item in the same city state, you wont get 5% tax. Only the seller. Example if the item seller's retainer is in Limsa, port to Limsa and buy it from there. This is crucial especially if you want to buy a crafting material which is 100k-200k ea in bulk to craft something etc.

This post has been edited by Poodlepaddly: Mar 24 2015, 07:11 PM

Should remember, anything sold by retainer has 5% tax regardless of city or buyer. Thats the Eorzea GST

If the mat price is that cheap go and see if you can flip the crafted mat for a good profit. Never underestimate the laziness of people.

Anyone have a good rotation to craft turn-ins for masterbook 1 and turn-ins for artisan gears?

This is the gear i have http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/6039017/

Only CUL have artisan main-hand.

Hi Valho,

Lunch hours, but I will see what I can do for you. lol.

First of all, I don't plan to reinvent the wheel coz someone else already has written a fairly detail guide for this. Might as well just redirect you to his/her blog. (with proper crediting of course)

2nd, there is no one absolutely best way to achieve this. Coz regardless how perfect one thing his/her routations is, there are bound to be ppl coming out to say theirs is better. So the better approach is that we can just get the rough idea or approach what other players are doing, experiment yourself and see which method fits you.

Here are the link by a player: Shana's routation guide suggestion

Suggestion:
All these depends on your gears. As your craftsmanship will affect how many Careful Synthesis II that you need to complete the progress. (maybe not so much in a 40 durability items) But the overall idea for 40 durability items are Steady hand II > Hasty touch X 3 times. And refresh the durability back to 40 with master mend 1. Use TOTT when good condition appear as often as u can and you might land your self an extra 30 durability with master mend again, assuming you have at least 56 CP left by the end of 20 durability to do Great Strides > Blessing Breygot. (Or some might argue 74 CP to go Great strides > Innovation > BB etc etc) The only thing I do not use in compare to the above link is manipulation. As mentioned, end of the day, its your own preference. I have seen forums with ppl arguing up to 60 pages just because one disagree with another crafter's routation. Possitive at start, but by page 50 all the remarks became defensive and out of topic. Take the guide as just a guide, and explore your way to your own DOH journey.

Food Recommendation: bouillabaisse (CP + 34)
Others: Reco you meld your current militia offhand. Or get an artisan offhand if you can. The artisan offhand's stat boost (with or without meld) will help you greatly. Either buy it off MB or craft it yourself if you just want your own shirt/gear label. lol

Thanks, yeah I use it as a guide as I know players will always says their is better, so it's best to understand how it work and use it as a guideline. I will check it out after work.

I will try to meld my off-hand, I been slacking on the meld after I melded both my rings haha.

Don't bother melding militia offhand, you'll cry later because the Artisan offhand is a massive upgrade.

Highly suggest to get Artisan offhand (no need meld) if you can afford, your gears are quite decent enough already.

For Masterbook 1, those are pretty easy to make now. You can just use the 338 CP macro with some HQ mats and it should be fine.

Aim for Artisan main hands after you get the masterbooks.

Basically the general advice is to just move to current end game artisan if possible. But if gil is a constrain (often for those who just started doh), use what you have and slowly unlock the crafter recipe. Depends on server, some crafting material has drop down to 4k per craftsmanship III material. Skip if can, if not just make use of whatever is available onhand, and get the funding for end game artisan.

The launch of artisan has allow new crafter to skip through many tier of grind. Some can even create a second alternate character and boost lvl 1 to 50 then straight to 4 star in 1 day. But all these depends on how many kaching $$ you have in your pocket. Do it at your prefer pace Valho

Yup, but still don't bother melding on a militia gear... the artisan offhand is a must, might as well save ur gil and spend on the artisan instead.

ok thanks for the advice, will work on getting masterbook 1 for those artisan off-hand, I been saving bunch of oakknots

Can bang on blacksmith masterbook if you wanna craft your own artisan off hand. Blacksmith can craft most artisan offhand in game followed by carpenter. Used to be a money making class during 2.5 release.

Out of curiosity, how many gils did you guys manage to farm from DOH?

That's one way too. Just make sure to have artisan main hand at least to craft the offhand.

As for my total gil amount... i only started serious crafting in 2.4. Estimate about 30mil-ish earned.

Nice. Enough to buy yourself a large house already Kurogane. Can enjoy your own garden own bed room

Cant remember when I started. Maybe 2.3. When started the time poor as hell. Want buy crystal also no money. lol. Have to sell own body gear and any unused weapon to npc just to fund that lvling 1-50. No one on my fc was crafting also last time. We are bunch of poor buggers. lol

Ehh Mansions are impractical. I spent 7mil buying a cottage in The Goblet that has MB right in front of it. Much more worth since it's practically a teleport to Market Board.

My FC has two 4-star crafters, me and another officer luckily. Now just saving up for 3.0 airship stuff. Don't want to go thru the 70mil fund raising treasure hunt marathon I did for my FC back in 2.1 to buy a mansion again.

Lucky you got kaki crafter.

My side here solo crafter in a small fc. Some of the fellow crafter I tried to train all gave up coz of the grind. Guess DOH really needs a lot of patience and some economy insight.

I only did it because the two hardcore crafters quit before 2.4. I was just doing for fun before that.

Well, it's pretty fun after 3-star level, just the grind is pretty painful if you're not dedicated enough.

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This post has been edited by Poodlepaddly: Apr 18 2015, 09:13 AM

I am still a poor lala, trying to make gil crafting some accessories but undercutter everwhere lol. Luckily it was made from left over that I had so I am still making a profit from it

My FC have 2 high level crafter but they don't login often nowadays, usually I get them to craft stuff for me hehe, but since they don't play as often, I have to start crafting it myself.

Hi Valho,

Its okay to start off poor. Most of us did, in fact all of us started the game with our first 120gil quest reward. (Actually I dont think you are poor. From the character profile you showed us, you have almost lvl 50 all DOW/DOM. That shows richness in determination) But whether you are a newly started or experience crafter, its always great to have a place where you can share your DOH queries with others.

New crafter will have entry questions which experience crafter can show a little tips and skip those unnecessary road block. Of course not to the extend of putting everything on a silver plate. Its better we give you a fishing rod than a lominsa anchovy.

Old and experience crafter might have questions and theories to share as well. Its good to have a good network with crafters with similar interest (starting or end game). Sometime I learn new things from crafters from different FC, Sometime they pm me, sometime I pm them, even though we are sworn undercutter enemies in mb. Such situation comes rarely. But when you have 2-3 strong crafters in the server who aren't reluctant to share information, update prediction (forecast) and sometime joke about the undercutting we do everyday, overtime you will notice you will progress further than the solo crafter do-not-disturb approach.

Most of the MMO I played I do not engage the end game much. (I used to chase, till I notice the short life cycle on end game progression by every patch) It is the economy that im interested in. Its a good training ground to learn about market place. But its good to meet people like you, Kurogane and the rest.

Note: No idea what to craft nowadays. Hope to see some input.

here a tips when selling item on market board

most/many/some item got their own price if sell to npc at the description of the item......which is funny that someone selling item worth 1k gil for 800~900 gil in market board

I'm selling fish right now.... somehow ppl r buying a lot on Masamune.

Good lead Kurogane. Not sure about fishing, used to be able to desynthesis for waterproof cotton for coeurl bikini under LTW crafting. But there many ppl buying different kind of 3-4 star fish in mb. Maybe this is something we can do before heavensward is released.

Juts finished a Friday night casual crafting and market board price pvp. The market in most world is really saturated nowadays, Reco we try to spread out the items we craft not in just one but multiple category, like artisan DOH gears, forager DOL gears, armors, accessories, furnitures. Nowadays I find the platinum accessory are a fast moving trend. Especially the Platinum fending and healer accessories. Something to consider I guess.

This post has been edited by Poodlepaddly: Apr 4 2015, 03:29 PM

Any leads on the specialty system for DOH in 3.0? No one will have exact info as SE will keep it secret till launch day. But from what 1.0 predicted, it would be something like all class to lvl 60, but only 1 or 2 class can specialize and go beyond that lvl?

I think it was mention you can only specialized in 3 but no mention if that means stuff are easier to craft at high level or u get locked out of high level recipes on DOH that you are not specializing in.

Yeah SE never release all this info until it's very close to launch

Based on their live letter, what i get from it is that, specialization in 3.0 will give you new skills to use for that specialization, no recipe lockout and you can get all to 60.
i think their purpose is to ease up crafting as yoshi said it takes too much to do to make any worthwhile crafting as it is.

and my tips on anyone wanted to get all 4star craft cheapest way that i found is to max meld accessory and go for control build for the apron. And forgo the melding for the artisan offhand, or if you want to, just slap in CP 3 in all of the offhand. I personally put in control IV and CP 3 in all of my offhand.

accessory>artisan left side> artisan mainhand > artisan offhand > while crafting for turn in supra always aim to get 3 hq, reclaim if u have to! so u can use it for the masterbook II i did this for most of my class >supra mainhand > lucis tool> masterbook II (if somehow u fail to hq it in previous attempts).

And level up desynth on LTW for FC3 or BSM(best) / GSM for MCD

Yeap. As usual Se will not reveal much about the patch updates till patch day. But from what i predict, the specialization and the skill gain will only allow you to craft the unique item in that class itself. Example BSM for its high tier ingot. You might still need a specialization in Arm to craft out the end product. But without BSM specialization, you wont have the mats. In a way they want us to create a interactive community btw players to network on business. Nothing is confirm atm. So these are just speculation and guessing. But from what i heard, this should be somethign similair to the crafting in 1.0.

Good feed. This also really depends whether your main hand is a supra or lucis. Just to share, the progress checkpoint i noticed in 4 star progress is 520 progress. As long your synthesis can hit 520 on the last 2 Careful Synthesis steps, you do not need any more craftmanship. If your last 2 progress steps hits > 520, example 532/5xx progress, then your craftmanship is over melded.

Assuming body gear and acc are max meld (these are the univesal item that we always max meld because can be used by all doh classes), the really optional thing to consider is only the offhand. During Supra time, i have an offhand with craftmanship IV, Craftmanship IV, Craftmanship IV, Craftmanship IV, CP + 3. with company buff i could actually earn a free steps in 4 star. But now with majority using Lucis, we dont need that much craftmanship anymore on offhand. Throwing a few control IV or III would be helpful. CP+3 on offhand is utter crucial. One do not want to come to breygot blessing stage with 23cp..

You are not gonna believe it, but i already have 14 screenshots or more saved in my folder showing 92-95% and gotten NQ. 14 freaking NQ artisan parts @ > 95% quality. Dont you wish your offhand was hot with some extra control sometimes, for the multiplier. : /

This post has been edited by Poodlepaddly: Apr 30 2015, 12:39 AM

happen to me two times at 96% most often it was the artisan stuff.
and i have hqed masterbook II turn in at 4%, after gotten my hand on 3 hq and was just doing progress synthesis for supra turn in.

This post has been edited by signum: Apr 30 2015, 12:07 PM

5/8 on artisan main-hand, what I hate most is the turn-in for artisan main-hand are so hard to craft even if you have fully melded accessories and artisan gear, but once you get your artisan main-hand it becomes so easy to craft them. I seriously find crafting end game is so much harder than raiding lol

hi all, how are you al prepping for the start of heavensward. its going to come in 2-3 weeks time

hoarding mats and levelling desynth, planning to do all that but kinda busy playing witcher 3, this game is so long.

Haha true. However this expansion is going to be harder to predict. Unlike before where we roughly know a few items like potash etc would be useful.

Heavensward seems like going to be a total new expansion. Am expecting new gathering nods, new dungen materials replashing the tomes item, new IV materia, etc. I have to say im sceptical to horde items now compare to when 2.55 was launched.

kinda disappointing with 3.0 crafting. Ridiculously easy to level with leve and daily company turns in. and masterbook 3 has nothing worthwhile to craft except gear for dol/doh. hoping they will add more stuff after alexander comes out.

Fully agree with you mate.I was so excited that I took a day off work to do it. Then I keep exploring and then I see what is going on then I see what it can do then I... went playing the last of us.

Btw, specialization my arse. at least in this patch

Off topic. After engaging in the economy for some time, Sometime I feel like this is the war economy. The more reason people have to start a war or to fight something, the more profit we crafters or the so called "club house" gets when the demand for weapons and military equipment increases. Im happy they released alexander and bismark ex fight. We crafters can start supplying axe and spear to soldiers and send them to war. We will make the weapon they use, the potion they drink, the food they consume, and the land plot for the tombstone and grave of those fallen soldier crushed by bismark. lol.

Joke aside, hows everyone doing on DOH for heavensward? Didn't had the chance to play lately due to work. Sure miss working out the economy of Heavensward again. She is always a fascinating puzzle to solve. My little contribution to the gang:

- Gordian furniture
- Bismark barding
- Hive barding
- Thavnarian sets (Popularity rank: Chest, Tights, head piece, gloves)
- i150 crafter set - low margin, but fast moving.
- Recently all the i112-i145 gears are having higher selling price now as old quest reward stocks has depleted and more ppl are progressing through MSQ.

And brace for impact when Ishgard houses are launched. Based on forecast, Glazenut demand will surge soon as ppl will need the furnitures for crafters (culinary, weaving etc). Stock up some if you can.

There seems to be a lot of ppl complaining in the official forum that the new craft are hard, almost impossible to get, takes a long time, too expensive, and they will probably add a few more notes after they gather everything and gotten NQ and rage.

I just want to say the difficulty is excellent. Finally there is a challenging craft that is worthy of our time. Rather than just mindless macros and flood mb with mass production of cheap product. Bring it on SE. Show us what you got. We don't run from a good fight.

Problem with the new redscript is the amount of time spent on gathering favors for the new 2 star crafting. Up to 11hr + per week of gathering just to be able to do 11 craft per week is, meh.

New 2 star craft for dow/dom is only ilvl 180. And since the materials required to craft them is gated behind the red script. its gonna cost an absurd amount of gil to make 20mil+. why would anyone bother making it since u can just easily get tome gear.

Im just hanging in till they released ilvl 180 accessory - this would probably be BiS in some dow/dom.

3.0 crafting just felt like the devs is kicking crafters to the balls. so much content gated. crafters are left with nothing to craft except food and pots nowadays.

It just feels like yoshi is butthurt because raiders clear t13 in a week with crafted gear. So this time around to halt progression and prolonging content they are gating crafters.

Even the new 2* doh/dol craft is not necessary to craft the new 2 star recipe or to gather from the legendary node.

New 2 star difficulties is easier than doing 2nd mastercraft book and lucis. About the same as 4 star difficulty items. Problems is the absurd cost of the materials that makes ur palm sweat when u craft those.

tldr- the best time to join in for the crafting fun is at the end of a patch lifecycle where the content is fully fleshed out and all the grind has been 'fine tuned' . If u a wanna be a pioneer than better grit ur teeth through the grind.

I didn't start with crafting this time around, I went for gathering instead. Got my Botanist to 60 and started to get collectables for blue and red scrips. It's nice to have a FC leader that can craft my gathering gear, so I got all crafted gear when I hit 60.

The gathering is kind a ok this patch it seems though I haven't touch those favor stuff yet. But I really hear quite a lot of complain on crafting and how it is gated by so much stuff till that I not even sure I wanted to level crafter.

Oh gathering makes decent Gils too, some of those materials sell for quite a bit

Yeah agree with you on the first 2 points. I tried following gatherer mining nods and this is not something that working class ppl like us can follow. 4+ nods per hour and the favour is rng driven (2-6 per favour) I did gathered some minor mats enough to make 3 piece new 2 star gear. took a long time to sell.

New i180 DOM/DOW will cost a bomb and yes, its easily replaceable with Alex or EOS gears. Plus the look are exactly the same as i160. There doesn't seem to be incentive or reward to drop a bomb of time and effort to obtain. Nor a potential market to sell it in these times.

I can see most ppl are disliking 3.0 crafter system. Its too hard and time consuming, and worst of you NQ the final product. But in a way, I kinda like it. Reason being its finally is something difficult that ppl cant macro like machine and flood the mb with 5 piece per person for all item all range. This is something ppl need to plan carefully, and there is risk involved. I like the difficulty and gates implemented. although I know 90% of the community will not agree with this.

The new crafter gear looks cool btw. Very fashion forward.

Well grinded 4950 blue scrips for folklore only to find that it's a waste of time, the folklore mats are cheap on MB, even gathering them for red scrip turns in they just give a little more than the none legendary node turn in. Not to mention you need high gathering and perception to even gather from legendary node.

I will just use my red scrip to get my main hand for either btn or min, and use remainder for favor. At least favor sells for a decent price if you get the rarer items to exchange for HQ mats.

yep the nq is quite cheap but if u can get hq they can sell for decent 10k-20k each. quite a bit waste of time, i actually got all the folklore nodes and i dont even gather from it. u will need around 650 gathering to oneshot the node and 660 perception to hq and gather red script from it. best case scenario would get u 60 extra redscript per hour.

if u are planning to sell the favor mats, better do it fast. ooids are dropping to 50k ea. it used to sell for up to 200kea.
The rarer mats is quite hard to get roughly i got 1red gemstone for 10 ooids. u can change with red script for the mats for bigger profit.

I can already cap red scrip in a day without folklore so making it even more useless, not to mention the high requirement needed to gather from it, I don't have that kind of stats at the moment.
I sold 3 bitter foxglove for 570k total, sold some foxglove as well, but these items move slow though but then not much people are selling it at the moment. I mostly sell the more common mats that are needed for crafting like adamantide ore.

Don't really want to waste my red scrip to get those mats now, I will get my main hand first and see how.

Hi guys.

I took a short break from FF for about 8 months due to work and others. Now did a came back and i found myself in a sea of new items. Don't know where to start.

Any tips for returning players? I bought some i200 crafter gears and doing the pentameld now for max stats. what are the good items to make and thinks to grind pls? I see there are some book IV recipes to buy using blue scripts.

Anything else i missed out? Master crafter importance in 3.3?

Hello fellow warrior of fetchques... no no I mean warrior of lights.

I have retired for more than 1 1/2 years and now coming back as a returning player. I did not follow the patch and I have a important question that I hope some existing player can help me with..

What is the...

craft or mogstation

Nice avatar : 3

haha mog station is kinda all the old seasonal even items.

For crafter side, im not sure if my recipe is up to date, but I don't find anything that is worth hunting rare mats for. Thanavarian dress is dirt cheap in mb now. Damn I still have lots of mats before price went down and I quit game! xD

Still looking for that rare glamor that crafter can make. Anyone exiting player who has any idea, please share. thx.