Is it stucky because of the spring not enough force to push it back up? From what I know, the springs have to be a certain weight, can't remember what's the weight . Otherwise the mx clear will have problem rebouncing.

Oh, then maybe get some spare housing to swap with the problematic housings?

Anyway, is Varmilo brand same company with leopold? I know that varmilo do have keyboards with gateron switch but i can only find them on massdrop, can't find the varmilo with gateron switch on taobao. There's only varmilo with cherry switch. Good thing about this varmilo i guess is that they use pbt keycaps, thats why it cost about rm350-400.

Wow, thanks alot. I've tried searching in taobao, but guess i don't know the keywords to find what i want.

May I know what is 阳极板套装? and the rm223 is it including leds?
Also, the seller said that it is up to us whether to use a plate or not. Does that mean I can actually use the switch on the PCB straight away? then it's considered as pcb mount?
What's the main difference between pcb mount and plate mount again?I'm assuming that there is a difference in the plate mount being more sturdy compared to pcb mount.

ok, after some googling, i found out that's the case. Solder the switch without plate= pcb mount. Main difference being plate mount is more sturdy.

So is it recommended to go with plate or without plate? Considering that I don't actually bottom out that often.



This post has been edited by ck.chunkeat: Apr 27 2015, 06:47 PM

I actually think it includes led.

Yea, I notice that the seller mention that he prefer to use cherry mx red with pcb mount as the combination will give a very unique soft feel. An even better setup that he uses for gaming is mx black with mx red as left shift and ctrl pcb mounted.

Ok, So i've just googled and looked at the seller's information.
Correct me if I'm wrong, PCB, stabilizer, gateron switches ,led and the plate =RM223.
PCB,stabilizer ,led and gateron switch, RM160.
PCB+stabilizer, it is RM109.
PCB only, RM102.
Plate only is Rm68

Clone poker 2 case is Rm23, ori poker 2 plastic case is rm45, aluminium case is Rm200.
That is a very interesting price.


If I were to get without plate, I might be able to get it for less than Rm 200 including case.

Not sure whether it comes with diodes tho, as I don't know what is diode in chinese.

OH! now that you mention, I just noticed that he used surface mount resistors and diodes. No wonder I can't see them, they were so small.

Thanks for the link.

Yes but I can't really find and don't know how to find cheap stock keyboards with gateron switches.
Yea, the poker 2 that cloud posted will only cost less than rm200. And yes, I have a spare set of keycaps laying around.

pok3r is interesting but it is out of my budget for now as I just want a simple to use mech keyboard which is portable and I can bring it with me when I go elsewhere. I come back home every weekend and it's tiring to keep bringing my keyboard to and fro every week. Not to mention when I want to camp uni whole day to do my coursework, I wouldn't want to bring my tkl there.

Besides, I have the choice to lube/sticker in the future if gateron is really my cup of tea.

This post has been edited by ck.chunkeat: Apr 27 2015, 10:08 PM

Hmm, a few good points you bring up there, sifu.
Custom layout is definitely welcomed, and poker 2 kinda defeats my purpose of trying out gaterons too.

Leds aren't for me. I can live without it.

If i really want to get a alu case, I can always buy it and change it since the plastic case is only rm20+.

Btw, what's your comment about linear switches on pcb mounting? Are there any special feel from it?

Hmm, .
Guess I would have to try that out for myself. I don't know how does a metal plate resonance sound sounds like.

Or maybe there is a difference between acrylic plate and metal plate. Anyway, I don't even know whether my current keyboard uses a metal plate or a plastic plate.

Good example, I will try it out when I get the chance. Then I guess my current keyboard might be the same as the ducky shine as it's also a ducky and the sound is more puff than pak to me.

yea, I think it is up to individual in the end. Everyone have their preference.
I just searched a few threads on GH and those who like PCB mount generally prefers the not so solid or natural feel. They can't really explain it but after testing the same switches on a poker 2 and a filco. The ones who like pcb mount can't go back to filco, so they say. The flex makes it a very nice experience for them. But I worry about the solder joints though. As solder joints generally don't like flex.

Guess I'll most probably be saving up funds and get the parts without the plate first. If I happen to not like the pcb moutn feel and decide to have the plate for stability later on, I will just have to resolder the switches and buy the plate.

Is it retarded to desolder switches? That's new to me. I thought to change a switch or open the housing from a normal plate mounted switch, you have to desolder the switch? or am I missing something here or misunderstood your sentence?

Anyway, I know hard pounding on the key will lead to more flexing therefore the keyboard will probably will not be suitable for gaming, but I have no intention of gaming with it yet. For now the purpose is for normal typing and portability as well as a cheap investment to test out gateron switches.

This post has been edited by ck.chunkeat: Apr 28 2015, 02:18 AM

Thanks for your opinion, appreciate it, will think about whether i want to go with plate or plateless.


Thanks for helping to search, will check out the nano 75 gaterons. and I will probably not get a alu case first. If I decide at a later time that I wanted to go for alu case, then I'll get it at a later date.


I already have a linear switch board, thats why I wanted to try out a gateron linear.


Good that, thanks for clarifying what he meant. Advice noted on the led too.

I personally also feel like using plate, but then since some of the people mentioned that linear switches with pcb mount is good. Ivan from GH seems to like it alot. There are a few others who even wanted to look for pcb mount board to replace their filco. That piqued my interest in it. But then it's very hard to get a pcb mount board nowadays.

To be honest, no offense was taken when you use the word retarded on me. I was curious more than anything.Hence, my reply asking to clarify more. So if I sound offended, please don't think that I am offended cause I am not.
I purely wanted to learn and know more about mech keyboard.

Yea, the plate should be around rm50. Will think about it deeply before pulling the trigger.

From my understanding, the G轴 means gateron switch.

Thanks for the advice, will take note.
Still havent decide whether to go with pcb mount or plate mount yet. pcb mount cause wana try it out, plate mount cause want that extra stability and prevent flex since I will probably be bringing this in and out.

What's the case that you showed in the spoiler? It looks like an aluminium case to me.

And what is your opinion on pcb mount? Any comment on it compared to plate mount?

I know all along that the recommended lube for the switch is krytox, but I just came across this.

http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboard...d_lubes/ceefaxh

Elitekeyboard says that krytox isn't that good for switches. Is he wrong about this?

Any comments?

They said the future sets will be cheaper.

I didn't meant gmk stuff, I meant the new JT keycap. The vendor said future sets will be cheaper.

That led case effect.

What high viscosity lube that you recommend other than those expensive krytox that can be bought locally at the hardware shop?