errmmm.....because it is business?

In case you don't know, Cyber is a support location. For any supporting function, the strategy to pursue is low cost process efficiency. That has always been the case.

If there is another location that is cheaper, then it doesn't make sense to pay more for supporting functions.

What you have said so far is just a whole lot of baloney........you say orang putih racist but can only support that by pointing out why they don't value the cyber folks. Yet at the same time, you demonstrated a deficient understanding of business operation. So please stop with this nonsense.

What;s the problem with this? Don't see the connection here. How does closing down cyber and proceeding with this merger got to do with racist orang putih?

There isn't a problem about this merger....it's about creating value. As a listed company, the board of directors and the C-suite are driven to deliver returns to shareholders. The execs believe that through this, value can be created. You may disagree but it is their heads that are on the table if they can't deliver the returns.

Guess what? you can extract value if you purchase stocks of Shell. How is this racist?

All the same, you still can't demonstrate what's so wrong about this. Show where you have been treated like pigs? Show where you have been treated like a dog?

On what basis are you saying what you have said in your first post? If you are just spouting this nonsense because they are closing it down, then sorry, you don't understand how business works. Period. Shell like any other company is not a charity, they are not here to feed you in case you didn't know. They are here to delivery value to their shareholders.

With this, are you admitting that you are one of the impacted employees?

Well, I'm sorry this is going to happen to you.

I can tell you this, I will still say this same 'rubbish' because I am not under no false illusion that Shell owes me a job.

Many people fail to realise that we live in a capitalist society. The objective of the corporation is to create wealth for the shareholders. You tak suka, you boleh pergi Cuba. You get the same wage no matter what you do. The moment you think that the company owes you something, that they are indebted to you, how bloody wrong you are.

Everybody is dispensable.

How do you avoid this then? Make yourself indispensable. When was the last time you acquired a new skill? When was the last time you acquired some new knowledge?

It is only prudent to constantly monitor what exit opportunities at any one time, it is also smart to monitor where your employing company is heading, you should be able to tell if your ship is sinking and if you have not made plans to jump, then you have yourself to blame.

Don't ever think that the company will be there for you forever, there is no such nonsense. You get paid for the work you do, they are not obligated to pay you for a work that they can get someone else to do or if they no longer require your service because of new technology or whatever. It's not a charity.

So take this as a lesson. Go find a new job, go acquire a new skill at the same time. Don't ever invest your feelings in the company unless it is your own.

Yes this is so true, in western countries especially european (west) they have such tight labor laws so their employees are paid higher, if they outsource to Malaysia they save so much, India even more..

So Shell Cyberjaya closing down now?

Luckily i din't accept Shell Cyberjaya offer last time.

No wonder 100 graduate employer always never include Shell

what company they bought?

i highly suspect u are shell staff. u should be grateful u got to work with the best employer in msia.

I'm kinda agreed with supersound comments in this thread. Its true.

u must be working in shell b4

The world is fair.

Imagine 15 years ago, those Shell IT staff in Singapore, Thailand, Philippines, China, Hong Kong, Australia, UK, Netherlands, Germany, US and etc lost their jobs to Malaysians.

Shell Cyberjaya created many opportunities for many Malaysians - especially those SAP contractors. Many became multi-millionaires. Even today, many Project Managers are earning good monies from Shell Cyberjaya.

If there is anything to blame, I blame the government for:

- Not producing enough qualified graduates who are well versed in English.
- Never offer good opportunities for Shell. If Shell has enough upstream projects, the saving for shifting to India is negligible.
- Lack of focus to develop Cyberjaya - more interested in property development than any other things.

Nevertheless, many of us should thank Shell for the past 20 years (from the days SSI was formed).

Feel so lucky never join them even tough i have their offer.

true true. Its not about the government policies, its all about business. Reducing the cost..

Dont get cheated by big company name.

You know Jack, you made a smart move. This is expected in big MNCs nowadays. Everyone wants to cut costs and maximize profits. So, it is better that we don't depend on these big goons so much and start making money through our own business.

well, the things u mention are totally irrelevant.
do u know whenever we see any resume from shell we will just KIV? reason because shell people are too focus on 1 single repetitive task. for example the finance person that i interviewed from shell only know accounts receivable ! she dont know heck about P&L or BS. And yet they are demanding high salary? I could easily hire at cheaper (or i would be more willing to pay higher pay) to those from chinaman company because this finance girl i hired knows almost everything in finance ! since then i never have prejudice towards small company anymore. mind u i am in a german MNC.

don't believe what i said? go ask other MNC whether they would hire shell staff or not. try those companies near you in cyberjaya (not T-system or HP). My excolleague from here who went to AIG practise the same idea as well.

so scary then...
then where do shell people supposed to go?

i agree with u with regards to their incompetency.
but i still do not agree about the racism practised by shell or any MNC.

they do have competency to talk cock and play politics, these competencies are the keys towards "successful" career.

the most wise words from this thread - you apparently have seen this done that