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 Income Tax on Foreign Salary Income?, Work in Home in Malaysia.

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Hoshiyuu
post Nov 9 2021, 03:32 PM

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Ramjade, share your crystal ball with me next time... 🤣

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/tran...vel-from-nov-29

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Ramjade
post Nov 9 2021, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 8 2021, 07:56 AM)
Not for non-political and state reasons. Look at the website for application for non-familial ties.

Edited by adding : Have you tried ? Please do not reply by saying you don't have a need to go to SG now.
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See below. tongue.gif
My assumption was based off a news I saw about a guy travel to China for business stuff and he had to quarantine and swab 4 times if I am not mistaken. So yeah, borders are not exactly close. Just need to quarantine.

QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Nov 9 2021, 03:32 PM)
Ramjade, share your crystal ball with me next time... 🤣

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/tran...vel-from-nov-29
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Never thought that news will be released as I thought sg govt is holding back to prevent Malaysian entry.
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post Nov 9 2021, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Nov 9 2021, 03:32 PM)
Ramjade, share your crystal ball with me next time... 🤣

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/tran...vel-from-nov-29
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Ramjade must be Irish - luck of the Irish and four leaf clover all that laugh.gif
Hoshiyuu
post Nov 9 2021, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 6 2021, 09:51 PM)
... This card lets you spend like a local. Which means if you have USD in your bank account, it will automatically use the USD account first before they use the SGD part. No additional charged. Alternative use Bigpay.
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By the way, I've been wanting to ask in the other thread too - but when you say "use Bigpay" you mean Malaysian Bigpay account, reloaded via SG/Multicurrency Debit card, then with BigPay holding MYR, spend globally? I feel like I am missing something when you have mentioned twice that BigPay is the key to spending foreign income internationally,

Sorry if I terribly misquoted the information.

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post Nov 9 2021, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Nov 9 2021, 04:30 PM)
By the way, I've been wanting to ask in the other thread too - but when you say "use Bigpay" you mean Malaysian Bigpay account, reloaded via SG/Multicurrency Debit card, then with BigPay holding MYR, spend globally? I feel like I am missing something when you have mentioned twice that BigPay is the key to spending foreign income internationally,

Sorry if I terribly misquoted the information.
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Malaysian bigpay reloaded with RM and spend overseas. No way you can get SG bigpay. Another alternative is wait for youtrip and mymy to start operating maybe next year. I hear dit can be used to store foreign currency. But how, not sure yet.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 9 2021, 04:33 PM)
Malaysian bigpay reloaded with RM and spend overseas. No way you can get SG bigpay. Another alternative is wait for youtrip and mymy to start operating maybe next year. I hear dit can be used to store foreign currency. But how, not sure yet.
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Thanks man. And yeah, hoping we can get some BNM approval on fintech that allows storing and spending foreign currency directly.... or foreign fintech that allow direct Malaysian registration biggrin.gif
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post Nov 9 2021, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Nov 8 2021, 02:00 AM)
while waiting for his response,
you can try his recent 6 Nov post
as in post 16
in this thread
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5212522

on this "This extra income, should I make a declaration to Msia tax department or it is exempted as considered foreign source income?"
In the Budget 2022, it has been proposed that income tax be imposed on residents in Malaysia with income derived from foreign sources and received in Malaysia from Jan 1, 2022.
read the link in post 39 page 2
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3524728/+20
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Thanks Bro.

Since this foreign source income new regulation will be revised in 2022.

My question is if I continue to accumulate and it may reach certain amount remain in Singapore acct.
I dont have intention to bring back malaysia since my current income is sufficient to cover my expenses here.

All income coming into my spore account with valid documentation ie commission agreement if bank ask to provide, can I leave it there for my future education plan for my kids.

Thank you.

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QUOTE(leesw2263 @ Nov 9 2021, 05:25 PM)
Thanks Bro.

Since this foreign source income new regulation will be revised in 2022.

My question is if I continue to accumulate and it may reach certain amount remain in Singapore acct.
I dont have intention to bring back malaysia since my current income is sufficient to cover my expenses here.

All income coming into my spore account with valid documentation ie commission agreement if bank ask to provide, can I leave it there for my future education plan for my kids.

Thank you.
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hmm.gif since you will using it over there,...M'sia govt should not have reason to questions you...unless, it you need to bring it back,...then they may question you....

just my guesses only....

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post Nov 9 2021, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(leesw2263 @ Nov 9 2021, 05:25 PM)
Thanks Bro.

Since this foreign source income new regulation will be revised in 2022.

My question is if I continue to accumulate and it may reach certain amount remain in Singapore acct.
I dont have intention to bring back malaysia since my current income is sufficient to cover my expenses here.

All income coming into my spore account with valid documentation ie commission agreement if bank ask to provide, can I leave it there for my future education plan for my kids.

Thank you.
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Wait for bill to pass. No point guessing now.
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post Nov 9 2021, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(leesw2263 @ Nov 9 2021, 05:25 PM)
Thanks Bro.

Since this foreign source income new regulation will be revised in 2022.

My question is if I continue to accumulate and it may reach certain amount remain in Singapore acct.
I dont have intention to bring back malaysia since my current income is sufficient to cover my expenses here.

All income coming into my spore account with valid documentation ie commission agreement if bank ask to provide, can I leave it there for my future education plan for my kids.

Thank you.
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Your bank dont have your details here ?

Some bank even collect income tax residency details, must declare this.
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post Nov 9 2021, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 9 2021, 04:05 PM)
See below. tongue.gif
My assumption was based off a news I saw about a guy travel to China for business stuff and he had to quarantine and swab 4 times if I am not mistaken. So yeah, borders are not exactly close. Just need to quarantine.
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That guy was to China. I'm talking abt SG here,...

And the things I are debating with you is from pre-VTL for Msia,... don't talk abt post-VTL.
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 9 2021, 08:24 PM)
That guy was to China. I'm talking abt SG here,...

And the things I are debating with you is from pre-VTL for Msia,... don't talk abt post-VTL.
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Sorry. My bet. Went digging up how strict sg quarantine was. Even transit also block off.
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post Nov 11 2021, 06:10 AM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Oct 30 2021, 09:04 AM)
i no such power eh

I'm quite sure capital gain is not considered as foreign income... but dividends & interests should be

but I dunno the threshold when investment becomes trading... selling covered calls every week is probably not investing and if IRB put you in the trading bucket... your capital gains become taxable as foreign income
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Appreciate if you could bring up with IRB if opportunity arise notworthy.gif . Since the local dividend is not taxable income. Then, the law will only consistent that foreign dividend are not taxable also.
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post Nov 11 2021, 06:31 PM

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Frankly, bros,... I think IRB wouldn't really care under what category ur incoming funds would be in. Capital exemption or capital gains or option premiums,...

Your best bet now would be to quickly open a foreign bank account to park your funds in offshore. The plan your funds movement as the development of this new removal of exemption continues to take place.
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post Nov 11 2021, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 11 2021, 06:31 PM)
Frankly, bros,... I think IRB wouldn't really care under what category ur incoming funds would be in. Capital exemption or capital gains or option premiums,...

Your best bet now would be to quickly open a foreign bank account to park your funds in offshore. The plan your funds movement as the development of this new removal of exemption continues to take place.
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Yes boss... this is my problem now... looks like ANY inward remittance from Jan 1 is taxable income... all my savings is offshore, if they don't segregate old money (before Jan 1) vs new... I'm in big trouble
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Nov 11 2021, 10:12 PM)
Yes boss... this is my problem now... looks like ANY inward remittance from Jan 1 is taxable income... all my savings is offshore, if they don't segregate old money (before Jan 1) vs new... I'm in big trouble
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Luckily I have plenty of offshore bank accounts. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(TOS @ Nov 11 2021, 10:36 PM)
Luckily I have plenty of offshore bank accounts. tongue.gif
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you misunderstood... I am remitting $5-10k per month for spending... tongue.gif
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post Nov 12 2021, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Nov 11 2021, 10:12 PM)
Yes boss... this is my problem now... looks like ANY inward remittance from Jan 1 is taxable income... all my savings is offshore, if they don't segregate old money (before Jan 1) vs new... I'm in big trouble
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Nov 12 2021, 12:15 AM)
you misunderstood... I am remitting $5-10k per month for spending...  tongue.gif
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Bro,... just some suggetions,... you can do one of a few things now :-

1) remit back 6 mth to 1 year of funds now to cover yr expenses prior to Jan 1. As time goes by, procedures will be improved,... or this whole fiasco will just fail because it's not feasible to implement this for individuals.

2) start building up a local income-generating entity, eg set-up a business or something so that you won't need to use ur foreign income for expenses.

3) start establishing a residence somewhere else so that you don't need to stay in Msia for 183 days or more per any Financial Year. Then you would be a non-tax resident.
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 12 2021, 02:43 PM)
Bro,... just some suggetions,... you can do one of a few things now :-

1) remit back 6 mth to 1 year of funds now to cover yr expenses prior to Jan 1. As time goes by, procedures will be improved,... or this whole fiasco will just fail because it's not feasible to implement this for individuals.

2) start building up a local income-generating entity, eg set-up a business or something so that you won't need to use ur foreign income for expenses.

3) start establishing a residence somewhere else so that you don't need to stay in Msia for 183 days or more per any Financial Year. Then you would be a non-tax resident.
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thanks for looking out... wink.gif

got a few options I'm exploring... will see how it goes lah...

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post Nov 13 2021, 01:58 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 12 2021, 02:43 PM)
Bro,... just some suggetions,... you can do one of a few things now :-

1) remit back 6 mth to 1 year of funds now to cover yr expenses prior to Jan 1. As time goes by, procedures will be improved,... or this whole fiasco will just fail because it's not feasible to implement this for individuals.

2) start building up a local income-generating entity, eg set-up a business or something so that you won't need to use ur foreign income for expenses.

3) start establishing a residence somewhere else so that you don't need to stay in Msia for 183 days or more per any Financial Year. Then you would be a non-tax resident.
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I really hope your point 1) where this fails and it won't be implemented for individuals really come true

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