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post Nov 16 2006, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(tkwfriend @ Oct 12 2006, 12:35 AM)
haha...las time i monitor genting day by day. wow today 26 plus oh well i see some of the stock about 80% of them all gain.

but now good stock already sky high no worth to buy. average stock you buy you die
low price stock you buy wait till dun know when.

if you know this story before if true MAS last time sell to govement at RM20 per share and today price is like what RM2 plus i guess.

stock market in Malaysia is control by politic.

well just a clue if you want to buy and sell share. you your feeling,study all background and graf only buy it.
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It depends how you compared, if you compared with price at 1997, then I bet 80% of the share price is still off more than 30-50% below. The stock market has only partially recovered from the 98's financial crisis. Apart some heavyweight and quality stock (MISC, Genting, PBB, Guiness etc) which has fully recovered and perform very well, others still struggling with poor financial result and debt.

Don't need to look at those chapalang penny stock which has no fundamental issue and having poor financial situation for investment intention unless for speculation purposes then different story but remember hit and run, don't stay for too long, since 'goreng' season won't last vey long. When syndicate successful earn from the 'goreng' then they will 'cabut' let you have the rotten egg.

Before MAS being is privatised, gov sold at RM8 (market price at that time about RM7.xx) to former MAS CEO Tajuddin. When Tajuddin left (MAS in trouble), gov bought back from him at RM8 also (but market price is RM2.xx at that time)

Can't disagree with that KLSE is influenced by politics since more than half of the company is GLC linked.


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post Nov 16 2006, 08:26 PM

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when the stock market will slump?

i can see around 2007 it will slump. After general election it will go down to the max.
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QUOTE(vexus @ Nov 16 2006, 08:26 PM)
when the stock market will slump?

i can see around 2007 it will slump. After general election it will go down to the max.
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I am interested to know how you come to this conclusion? Research? Source?

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QUOTE(Geminist @ Nov 16 2006, 08:46 PM)
I am interested to know how you come to this conclusion? Research? Source?
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this is based of property development cycle. There is always up and down in the market cycle.

just do your research on property development cycle.


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post Nov 17 2006, 12:29 AM

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well guy now is time to invest in cepalang stock.
reason as below

cheap stock but of course need to know the back ground
is lost not muchas the rest
gain depend let say it let u earn RM0.10 each and your cost is RM0.30 if you buy 100ltos how much you gain
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there r many type of share u can invest
if those KLSE is call future share
if u play those like genting, tenaga etc r call equities
there r a lot of share market around

if the company got good news, the share will rise

u must know when to hold & when to let go

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dont be GREEDY biggrin.gif
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post Nov 17 2006, 09:27 AM

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I just feel that KLSE wil drop from 1k to 800...mayb..coz this is end of DEC..many company will do false audit...tats why la..
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if you are investing in construction shares such as UEM u will gain lots of $$$$
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post Nov 17 2006, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(feralee @ Nov 17 2006, 09:21 AM)
there r many type of share u can invest
if those KLSE is call future share
if u play those like genting, tenaga etc r call equities
there r a lot of share market around

if the company got good news, the share will rise

u must know when to hold & when to let go

one thing
dont be GREEDY  biggrin.gif
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Just wanna be more precise, biggrin.gif
The market where shares/stocks are traded is called equities market, whilst the other market which trades base on certain underlying (i.e. you do now claim ownership to the company or so, eg commodity, index, interest rates, shares) is called derivatives marke. wink.gif
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QUOTE(Canopies @ Nov 17 2006, 09:27 AM)
I just feel that KLSE wil drop from 1k to 800...mayb..coz this is end of DEC..many company will do false audit...tats why la..
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No no, it will the other way round.
Normally towards year end when companies are preparing their annual report, their shares prices will be lifted so that it looks nicer in the financial statement. Some call it "window dressing" if not mistaken wink.gif
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post Nov 17 2006, 10:58 AM

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'Window dressing' is mainly driven by funds which make their report card looks good eg. EPF board, PNB, and UT funds that hold significant portion of the shares. If the year end price looks good then their portfolio also gain a lot and bonuses normally are based on their performance, that's why occassionally you see some window dressing happening at year end.
Bare in mind, this only can be done if the market relatively not that active, if something bad news which is not favour the market, window dressing won't have any effect and share might as well plunging. All depend on market situation, nothing is ascertain.


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post Nov 17 2006, 11:35 AM

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also be wary of analyst reccomedation,cos somke times these guys are a wee bit whacked
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QUOTE(vexus @ Nov 17 2006, 10:03 AM)
if you are investing in construction shares such as UEM u will gain lots of $$$$
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Vexus,

I guess you have NOT learn from what happen to UEM during 97/98. I did.

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Nov 17 2006, 11:36 AM)
Vexus,

I guess you have NOT learn from what happen to UEM during 97/98.  I did.

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i mean now, i didn't mean 1997. UEM get alot of govt project currently.
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post Nov 17 2006, 12:53 PM

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hey...wil there be another 1997 market down fall again?..2007 next year
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QUOTE(Canopies @ Nov 17 2006, 12:53 PM)
hey...wil there be another 1997 market down fall again?..2007 next year
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if got ppl Speculate, sure will down
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there will another downfall, but don't know when. Expected 4Q 2007 - early 1Q 2009
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QUOTE(Canopies @ Nov 17 2006, 09:27 AM)
I just feel that KLSE wil drop from 1k to 800...mayb..coz this is end of DEC..many company will do false audit...tats why la..

if me not mistaken,... the one you mentioned just up and down... up and down since year 96. After 97, drop like can't really see the bottom. Can't really see its trend at all... sweat.gif I dare not try this share at 1.4 something.
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post Nov 17 2006, 01:11 PM

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lol...lucky i din buy any share...

erm..i play forex..but traditional ways..

i bought many ren min bi and keep at home..lol..few K la...

then when rise i sell off...earn few hundred bucks la..

nowadays china market very strong..and its independant ler...
so i just buy it and store at home..hopefully no bulgars wil lcome in my room ...
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I would like to contribute a little opinion.

Generally, when buying into a stock, I will do my research on the particular stock's strength. I consider myself the fundamental player as compared to the other group of player (speculative).

What do I look for in a stock to buy ?

First, profitability of the company

Second, past year result (no point buying a 1 HIT WONDER company)

Third, independence of the audit committee (no point if the CEO/Chairman/MD sits in the audit committee. the audit committee should be independent whenever possible.

Fourth and I place most emphasis, look for shares which have their stock price lower than their Net-Tangile- Asset (NTA) example: stock price RM1.80 and NTA RM2.50 means each stock valued at RM1.80 is BACKED by RM2.50 worth of ASSETS

Fifth, Price-Earning Ratio (PE Ratio)

Nevertheless the market is bigger than our control so these are no guarantee of me making a decent profit EVERY TIME ! It is MERELY a guidelines I followed when choosing a stock.

Do feel free to contribute.

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