Edifgrto,
I get your point, it is not against the law or rules of trading as far as I know. This is also the way the 'goreng' syndicate spread rumour to attract punters into it. Syndicate accumulate plenty of the 'goreng' stock then spread or create some false good news or rumour about the company so that when syndicate push up the stock, people will chase into it then the syndicate will let you have it at high price and late punters stuck full with overpriced stock and become like 'crab'.

But on the other hand, if you guys let say A,B and C has been compromised in pushing up the stock through manipulation then it is definitely against the manipulation law eg.
A sell to B -> RM1
B sell to C ->RM2
C sell to A -> RM3

then the cycle goes on and price become RM 10, let say, then it is definitely called manipulation since A,B and C are under same syndicate. This scenario is most probably happened in low liquidity stock since not much liquid shares in the market and easier to do.
Also, when a share is overpriced, you might see tons of share flocking out waiting to sell for you. Several million Ringgit of buying is just peanut in the stock market. Don't think stock market is that easy to play with.

I use the word punters rather than investor since in my opinion this is kind of speculation rather investing.

Btw, it is called investor not invester.

beside PBBANK, YILAI, CAROTEC, PLUS and COASTAL
others don't worth my $ in for long term..

This post has been edited by lipkhin: Nov 19 2006, 04:00 AM

AIRASIA-CA: hm... play contra
AIRASIA: hm... not for now..
MRCB: shorterm
PBBANK-01: no idea
PBBANK: hold it for the interest...
LBS:no idea. maybe next round for 2nd board...
RHB: overheat oledi...can consider rhbcap.
PUNCAK: i hold 10 lots. predict it will be up by next month. now is time to go into.
FBO: sleeping share, wait for new annual report.
PPB: play safe.
OSK: up trend for 3 months...
COCOLND: no idea.
YILAI: i never consider this.
KAF: no idea.
IDAMAN: hm...can consider but we have better choice now.
IRIS: never look back into it after the crash.
SCOMI: the heat is over...
AMMB: better to play on ammb-wa
UEMBLDR: uem...umno share...so u know...
TIMECOM: target price rm1?
CAROTEC: good for future but not for shorterm...
TIME: better put the money into timecom.
BURSA: target price rm8 as long as the bull is still running.
UEMWRLD: some comment as eumbldr
PLUS: better play on plus-ca
SWEEJOO: for longterm.
COASTAL: no idea.
CENBOND: not for now...
HLBANK: can consider..
KFC: see what QSR will announce...
KBB: no idea

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We should buy on sound fundamentals.. then again in such a bull market.. you go by the news by the whisp of the wind...

PBB is the soundest of shares in the market.. Good dividend policy and stable and solid shares.

Psst.. you may want to look at some sin shares.. Tanjung, BJToto, Genting, Resorts World. The latter 2 is going to go through the roof once Sentosa's casino is theirs... . My personal favourite, BJToto.. good dividends.. silent share...

wat is the lot size for PBBANK & BJTOTO? 100 or 1000?

all can buy in lots of 100 shares these days..

min u can buy is 1lot

1 lot means 100 unit

Most of the people now saying the market is bull market...So, how long can this bull stay here? Can the market be high until mid of next year?

The way I see this time is that, index definitely at high side but not broad based still there are plenty of stock that perform not well.

Currently the index surge is largely because of plantation stock like KLK, IOIcorp, Sime hit all time high due to high price of CPO and TNB due to increase in trariff. All are index linked heavyweight, others only gain a little bit only. In my opinion, it is still a little bull only if compared the market during 1992-93.
The market currently is lack of seller rather than plenty of buyers so not much people want to sell and buyer has easy time to push up the price, I am talking of big heavyweight, index linked, not those 'goreng' stock.
With TNB went up from RM8.++ to RM10+, it already contribute almost 20 points for index while KLK went up from RM9 to RM 14 contribute another 20 points, so with several important stocks that have performed quite well, that's why you saw index shoot to 1040+ from 900.

Although recently, everyday the trading volume exceeding 1 billion but trading value still not that high, mostly concentrate at lower liner and cheap stock and warrants typically a few ten cents so although volume is high but the most important is the trading value. You won't trade 1-2 lots if the stock is RM0.20, right?

Nobody can give you an actual answer when the current bull market will end or the market will go higher. But market can't run away the most fundamental factor, economy and company earning. If the economy will do well next 2-3 years, stock market definitely will go higher since company earning will improve, on the other hand, if the economy will be bad then it will affect the company profit then surely stock price will go down with it.

Economy is a very funny thing and sometimes unpredictable just like when 90's, when economy booming non-stop, who will guess financial crisis hit suddenly at 97 and still not fully recovered after almost 10 years.

Yeah... I concur, market is funny.. when there is good news... all around any news is good news... but the moment the bears set in... all news turn bad... and people start to panic and start throwing shares..

But a good indicator... the moment you see alot of aunties at the stock market.. its time to pull out.

Agree...when everybody also join in the share market and thinking easy to earn moeny from share market, it's time for us to get out from it and wait for the right opportunity.

the composite index will reach another milestone next year..... another all-time high

Economy today is unlike what it was 10-20 years ago where an upswing can hold momentum for long periods. In the past we have seen how crude oil prices can affect the upward momentum of the equity market. Even more, terror acts that can cause stock market to nosedive globally.

So, what I am trying to say is, 1992 Super Bull Run may not happen again. While many will still think penny stocks could be the rage just like in 92, it may not be this time round.

But after all said, I see alot of indicators pointing to a bull run year next year. To most people this would be the opportunity to make some $$$. It should get better if its going to be the election year as "affected parties" will try to raise funds and create the "feel good" feeling to add to the "winning factor".

Recently, I never heard any bad news or comments or bearish views from analysts and general people, don't know whether it is a good sign or not, seems like everyone is bullish about the market.

For KLCI to hit all times high still quite long way to go since all times high is 13++ which is set at about 1993-94, forgot the exact year, roughly, when the super bull run ended with a crash.

It was early 1993, right before Daim made the statement that the stock market is way way way too high.. the next few days, the stock market took many lives and many other dreams with it....

For it to sputter and recover till 1997 and it nose dived as the nation teether on brink of bankcruptcy... not trying to be melodramatic here but thats about it.. in a nutshell

As far as I remembered, the 1997 only hit as high as 12++ before crashed to around 2++ to 3++.

When a lot of people want to make quick money from the stock market, it is definitely not a good sign.

One thing for sure, the economy situation is not as dynamic as when 90's.

The KLCI now is around 1050...I think if next year goes up to 1300, then I think the market will abnormal and another round of recession will appear...

Ya, I agree....The hot funds can in...they also can out anytime!
So, I think the recession time is in processing!
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This post has been edited by investmentlink: Nov 24 2006, 11:17 PM